Will the 2017 Ram match the 2017 Ford PowerStroke Power ratings?

[CUMMINZ]

:-laf:-laf You make jokes :-laf

What joke?

 

[WalterJ]

My 2016 is rated for 39,100 lbs GCWR and 30,050 trailer tow rating. That's plenty to handle our 19,000 GVWR 5th wheel. The limiting factor for us is the 9,750 lbs rear axle GAWR, and we have plenty of margin there as everything sits today. That's the reason that I moved up to the 2016 from our 2011 3500 dually which was over its ratings.

I for one don't need any more than I have, so it really doesn't matter to me what the 2017 Ford or 2017 Ram ratings wind up being. As I understand it, the 2017 F-450 is still going to have a lower 5th wheel trailer tow rating (27,500 lbs) than my 2016 Ram, so it's a moot point anyway.

Yes, horsepower gets you to the top of the hill first, but I don't want to live with an engine running at or near redline just to pull a grade - I've been there with my 1996 Ram 3500 V-10 (3500 to 4000 RPM) and 2011 Ram 3500 350/650 Cummins (3000 RPM) up every 6% grade. This 2016 385/900 Cummins just hammers it out between 1600 and 2300 RPM in 6th and 5th gears and has no problem holding 65 on cruise control on the Interstate on every grade we've encountered thus far.

Rusty

Ditto; they're just numbers. Only a few of us NEED to rely on ADVERTISED max performance stats. For the rest of us, it's merely a super mega pride thang! Ford is still trying to catch up with the reliability, longevity & historical excellence (Dodge) Ram has earned. A few extra horses dun mean a thing to me. GO RAM! GO PACKERS!

 

[CUMMINZ]

Well looks like my thoughts about late model RAMs with factory hitch not being capable to 30k is being remedied. Read it and weep:

http://www.autoguide.com/auto-news/2017/08/2018-ram-3500-has-the-most-torque-ever-for-a-pickup.html


Starting with the 2018 model year, the Ram 3500 will offer a segment-dominating 930 pound-feet of torque.


The American automaker worked closely with Cummins to improve the 6.7-liter diesel engine, allowing it to produce an additional 30 lb-ft of torque. The updates to the engine include higher boost limits through a variable geometry turbo, and flow rate increases through the fuel delivery system.

In addition, Ram announced a 30,000-lb fifth-wheel towing uprating that is made possible by an in-house hitch design from Ram Engineering. The upgraded hitch allows the Ram 3500 to haul the heaviest trailers in the industry, allowing customers to move away from Class 4 and Class 5 trucks to haul trailers that would otherwise be limited to 24,000 pounds. Pricing for the newly-engineered hitch design is $1,395.

SEE ALSO: 2016 Ram 3500 HD Review

The 2018 Ram 3500 Heavy Duty maximum gooseneck and conventional hitch maximum trailer weight ratings are 31,210 and 20,000 lbs, respectively.

Look for the 2018 Ram Heavy Duty pickup trucks to arrive dealerships this month.

“Ram maintains capability leadership by delivering the highest-ever torque rating for a pickup truck and heaviest fifth-wheel trailer towing capacity,” said Mike Manley, head of Jeep & Ram Brand, FCA Global. “We understand the attributes most important to our customers within the heavy-duty segment; they demand hard-working, long-lasting capability.”

 

[CUMMINZ]

:-laf:-laf You make jokes :-laf

JR, look at the video. The load with the two large tractors are an example I would have referred you to. Take that load and shift both tractors 1 foot farther forward could very easily put a ton or two more load on your ball. http://www.autoguide.com/auto-news/2017/08/2018-ram-3500-has-the-most-torque-ever-for-a-pickup.html

 

[TCollier]

How about expanded fuel capacity to go along with all the towing capacity? Or is it still going to be 32 gallons.