Will the 2017 Ram match the 2017 Ford PowerStroke Power ratings?

[JR]

RV hitch 3,000# towing and 300# hitch weight. Truck hitch for 5er is Companion RVK3600

The wife's SUV can out tow your Ram by about 60% :-laf

 

[CUMMINZ]

RV hitch 3,000# towing and 300# hitch weight. Truck hitch for 5er is Companion RVK3600.

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Thanks 12V. My wife and I are still specking out a new M2 and a new RAM. I need all the reals numbers I can get.

 

[CUMMINZ]

12V, does it bother you that your truck is rated for 30+k and factory and most after market hitches are rated 25k or less?

 

[Cummins12V98]

The wife's SUV can out tow your Ram by about 60% :-laf

What R U talking aboot EH?

 

[Cummins12V98]

12V, does it bother you that your truck is rated for 30+k and factory and most after market hitches are rated 25k or less?

You would never tow a 30K 5er the pin would far exceed the RAWR. The 30K towing is for gooseneck applications.

To answer your question it does NOT bother me in the least.

You looking for another reason NOT to buy a new truck???

 

[JR]

What R U talking aboot EH?

RV hitch 3,000# towing and 300# hitch weight. Truck hitch for 5er is Companion RVK3600

Just havin' a little fun eh!

 

[CUMMINZ]

You would never tow a 30K 5er the pin would far exceed the RAWR. The 30K towing is for gooseneck applications.
To answer your question it does NOT bother me in the least.

You looking for another reason NOT to buy a new truck???

No reason for no buying has nothing to do with it. I stated in an earlier post we were specking out an M2 and a new RAM. My fifth wheel hitch is rated for 7,5k pin and 32k trailer. I think you are fooling yourself. I have not read printing from RAM your words highlighted above. My fifth wheel hitch has a pin ball attachment that fits my hitch. The RAM factory hitches I have seen are rated at 20/25k and that is not enough to tow the larger 5ers. I would think RAM in their advertisements boasting about being able to tow 30+#s would place a warning not to be used on RVs over 25k.Not all goosenecks are placed on the ball in the center of the bed. Some are hooked to the 4 pucks. Have you seen printed material from RAM as to puck capacities?

 

[JR]

Rams not being misleading in my book. Given they do not specifically come with hitches it is on the owner to choose the correct hardware for his/her needs. Would you try towing a 30k pound tag trailer with your Ram just because they say their trucks are rated for such? Again it is on the end user to see that they have the proper equipment to do the job.

 

[CUMMINZ]

Rams not being misleading in my book. Given they do not specifically come with hitches it is on the owner to choose the correct hardware for his/her needs. Would you try towing a 30k pound tag trailer with your Ram just because they say their trucks are rated for such? Again it is on the end user to see that they have the proper equipment to do the job.

JR... RAM does provide a 20
k and 25k hitch with their truck if you want one. They do not offer a 30k hitch.

Specs on my fifth wheel hitch.


Fifth Wheel Specification

32K


Shipping Weight

285 lbs


Compressor w/ auto height control

Standard


Double Pivot Ride Height on Draw Tite Rails

12.5”


Powder Coated Finish W/ high impact powder

Standard


Tong/pin weight top capability

8,000 lbs


Gross Trailer weight

32,000 lbs


Single Pivot Ride Height on Draw Tite Rails

12.5"


Base Width

20"


Base Length

24"


Head

Holland/Binkley


Positive Locking

Yes


Warranty

2 Yrs


30K Gooseneck ball http://www.hitchcrafter.com/32ksinglepivotair.htm I never said RAM was misleading.

 

[Newsa]

Unagoose offers a hitch that is rated at 40,000#. But they don't make a 5th wheel companion or adapter.

http://www.una-goose.com/product.asp

 

[CUMMINZ]

Anybody seen printed capacity of puck hitch system on a RAM?

 

[JR]

A 25k lb 5th wheel camper carries roughly a 5k+ lb pin weight. Throw in passengers and misc and you are right at the payload limits of a typical crew cab truck. You may not be at RAWR but this is probably a case of Ram playing it conservative.
I am not aware of any 5th wheel campers that even eclipse 30k lbs, but if there was one it would likely be pushing the envelope of a 1 ton truck.
I just don't see where the disagreement is here.

 

[CUMMINZ]

A 25k lb 5th wheel camper carries roughly a 5k+ lb pin weight. Throw in passengers and misc and you are right at the payload limits of a typical crew cab truck. You may not be at RAWR but this is probably a case of Ram playing it conservative.
I am not aware of any 5th wheel campers that even eclipse 30k lbs, but if there was one it would likely be pushing the envelope of a 1 ton truck.
I just don't see where the disagreement is here.

I am really glad you made that statement. In BLACK... My point is ANY RAM in my opinion is over the trucks' capacity whether it is a 5er at 30k or a gooseneck at 30k. Any RAM totin' that kinda loads should be totin" 19.5" tires.There are RVs out there that push 30k. Most if not all those intelligent owners are using M2s or class 8s.

 

[JR]

I agree with your last sentence. But I think you could (or should) also agree in the fact that regardless of what class truck we are talking a 5th wheel RV will have a higher pin weight than your standard load on a GN trailer and therefor a 5er rating should be lower than a GN rating. That is exactly what Ram has done here.

 

[CUMMINZ]

I agree with your last sentence. But I think you could (or should) also agree in the fact that regardless of what class truck we are talking a 5th wheel RV will have a higher pin weight than your standard load on a GN trailer and therefor a 5er rating should be lower than a GN rating. That is exactly what Ram has done here.

I don't think I have seen a standard load on a gooseneck. It is probably hard to overload a 5er to top out your RV GVW. On the other hand with the way I have seen guys load goosenecks they roll the oversize tractor or dozen on the gooseneck and roll forward till they see the bed squat. The movement of only an extra foot more forward could place extra TONS on the ball.

 

[JR]

The movement of only an extra foot more forward could place extra TONS on the ball.

:-laf:-laf You make jokes :-laf

 

[SnoKing]

It is probably hard to overload a 5er to top out your RV GVW.

Not off Ron. His wife does stone jewelry!!!!!!!!

Snoking

 

[Cummins12V98]

Your RAWR is what limits what you can tow on PAPRER. My RV is 23K, I max out my RAWR.

 

[CUMMINZ]

Your RAWR is what limits what you can tow on PAPRER. My RV is 23K, I max out my RAWR.

12V What RPMs do you turn at 70MPH?

 

[Cummins12V98]

^^^^^ No Idea but 1,750 @ 60.