ZF Powerline for 2025 RAM HD Diesel

[NIsaacs]

So, I have a new 2500 Bighorn on order, trying to beat the chaos that is coming for Ram. If the 25% tariff hits next week, what will happen to an order place before?? Will that mean a $74k truck is now $92k? Will Ram absorb some or all of that or pass it on? If they don't, sales will come to a halt. Plus, trade in value is dropping daily, due to the massive discounts on old inventory.

I assume Ram will move their production back here, ASAP. However, that takes time. Might be a bad year for Ram and customers. For sure, I won't be buying a $92k truck.

 

[nukegm]

comrade - i have read that there will be a target date of when the tarrifs begin, with a grace period of say, 6 months, to give ram a chance to move back here. also read ram will not absorb the cost of the tarrif. there are also rumors of financial assistance from chrysler financial for negative equity ram owners looking to trade in their trucks on another ram. they know that the discounts are going to drop trade in value big time. bringing jobs back here , in my o, is a good thing. my foreign made 2500 is the biggest POS vehicle ive ever owned, but i like it. call it an abusive relationship. lol cheers!

 

[Grumpy8811]

comrade - i have read that there will be a target date of when the tarrifs begin, with a grace period of say, 6 months, to give ram a chance to move back here. also read ram will not absorb the cost of the tarrif. there are also rumors of financial assistance from chrysler financial for negative equity ram owners looking to trade in their trucks on another ram. they know that the discounts are going to drop trade in value big time. bringing jobs back here , in my o, is a good thing. my foreign made 2500 is the biggest POS vehicle ive ever owned, but i like it. call it an abusive relationship. lol cheers!

As far as tariffs go, that is a double edged sword that cuts in both ways and the end buyer is always the one who pays the tariff.

It took 40 years to destroy all the labor unions and manufacturing in this country and the same amount of time to move those jobs offshore
so its not like someone can move or build any large manufacturing plant in 6 months so don't hold your breath on that.

One last thought, if I had a crystal ball, I would own the street named Wall.

 

[nukegm]

As far as tariffs go, that is a double edged sword that cuts in both ways and the end buyer is always the one who pays the tariff.

It took 40 years to destroy all the labor unions and manufacturing in this country and the same amount of time to move those jobs offshore
so its not like someone can move or build any large manufacturing plant in 6 months so don't hold your breath on that.

One last thought, if I had a crystal ball, I would own the street named Wall.

if the end user paid the tariff , then tarrifs wouldnt work. the tariff motivates the company to move to avoid the tariff. otherwise, they would just charge 92 k for the above truck and stay put. the problem is, is that they wont sell any trucks when they are 25 percent above ford and gm for a truck in the same class.

cheers!

 

[Diesel85]

While I have mixed opinions on tariffs and how it affects not just trucks, but everything. I would like to see more products originate completely from the USA. Not just assembled.

 

[Grumpy8811]

While I have mixed opinions on tariffs and how it affects not just trucks, but everything. I would like to see more products originate completely from the USA. Not just assembled.

I would too but I think that ship sailed a long time ago.

 

[AH64ID]

So, I have a new 2500 Bighorn on order, trying to beat the chaos that is coming for Ram. If the 25% tariff hits next week, what will happen to an order place before?? Will that mean a $74k truck is now $92k? Will Ram absorb some or all of that or pass it on? If they don't, sales will come to a halt. Plus, trade in value is dropping daily, due to the massive discounts on old inventory.

I assume Ram will move their production back here, ASAP. However, that takes time. Might be a bad year for Ram and customers. For sure, I won't be buying a $92k truck.

Congrats!

More details on the truck

Will you trade or keep your 4th gen?

 

[NIsaacs]

Congrats!

More details on the truck

Will you trade or keep your 4th gen?

Thank you, I am kinda scared, so many unknowns. I will trade the '21 in. It is a fine truck but I am not loyal to it yet. I really like the 4th gen cabs.

It will have the Level 1 Equipment group,

Powertrain
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6.7L I6 Cummins HO Turbo Diesel Engine
$12,595
Open Info Modal EngineMore Info
8-Speed Powerline Automatic Transmission
$0
Open Info Modal TransmissionsMore Info
GVW Rating - 10,190 Pounds
$0
Open Info Modal GVWR PackagesMore Info
3.42 Axle Ratio
$0
Open Info Modal Gear RatiosMore Info
Engine Block Heater
$95
Open Info Modal Additional Mechanical FeaturesMore Info
Transfer Case Skid-Plate Shield

Packages
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Bed Utility Group
$845
Open Info Modal Packages & Equipment GroupsMore Info
5th Wheel / Gooseneck Towing Prep Group
$545
Open Info Modal Load & Towing GroupsMore Info

Interior
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Six-Passenger Seating:Cloth 40/20/40 Premium Bench Seat
$945
Open Info Modal Six-Passenger SeatingMore Info
Entertainment:Uconnect® 5 with 8.4-Inch Touch Screen Display
Standard
Open Info Modal EntertainmentMore Info
Floor Mats:Front and Rear Rubber Floor Mats by Mopar®
$235
Open Info Modal Floor MatsMore Info

Exterior
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Monotone Exterior Colors:Bright White Clear-Coat Exterior Paint
$0
Lighting:Clearance Lamps
$95
Open Info Modal LightingMore Info
Wheels:18-Inch x 8.0-Inch Polished Aluminum Wheels
Standard
Open Info Modal WheelsMore Info
Tires:LT275/70R18E BSW All-Season Tires
Standard
Open Info Modal TiresMore Info
Additional Exterior Features:Monotone Paint
Standard
Open Info Modal Additional Exterior FeaturesMore Info
Additional Exterior Features:Rear Wheelhouse Liners
$195
Open Info Modal Additional Exterior FeaturesMore Info

I think that is it

MSRP is $73,655, not sure if shipping is in that.

 

[Diesel85]

@NIsaacs, you will need to start a new, "new truck" thread.

 

[AH64ID]

Thank you, I am kinda scared, so many unknowns. I will trade the '21 in. It is a fine truck but I am not loyal to it yet. I really like the 4th gen cabs.

It will have the Level 1 Equipment group,

Powertrain
Edit
6.7L I6 Cummins HO Turbo Diesel Engine
$12,595
Open Info Modal EngineMore Info
8-Speed Powerline Automatic Transmission
$0
Open Info Modal TransmissionsMore Info
GVW Rating - 10,190 Pounds
$0
Open Info Modal GVWR PackagesMore Info
3.42 Axle Ratio
$0
Open Info Modal Gear RatiosMore Info
Engine Block Heater
$95
Open Info Modal Additional Mechanical FeaturesMore Info
Transfer Case Skid-Plate Shield

Packages
Edit
Bed Utility Group
$845
Open Info Modal Packages & Equipment GroupsMore Info
5th Wheel / Gooseneck Towing Prep Group
$545
Open Info Modal Load & Towing GroupsMore Info

Interior
Edit

Six-Passenger Seating:Cloth 40/20/40 Premium Bench Seat
$945
Open Info Modal Six-Passenger SeatingMore Info
Entertainment:Uconnect® 5 with 8.4-Inch Touch Screen Display
Standard
Open Info Modal EntertainmentMore Info
Floor Mats:Front and Rear Rubber Floor Mats by Mopar®
$235
Open Info Modal Floor MatsMore Info

Exterior
Edit
Monotone Exterior Colors:Bright White Clear-Coat Exterior Paint
$0
Lighting:Clearance Lamps
$95
Open Info Modal LightingMore Info
Wheels:18-Inch x 8.0-Inch Polished Aluminum Wheels
Standard
Open Info Modal WheelsMore Info
Tires:LT275/70R18E BSW All-Season Tires
Standard
Open Info Modal TiresMore Info
Additional Exterior Features:Monotone Paint
Standard
Open Info Modal Additional Exterior FeaturesMore Info
Additional Exterior Features:Rear Wheelhouse Liners
$195
Open Info Modal Additional Exterior FeaturesMore Info

I think that is it

MSRP is $73,655, not sure if shipping is in that.

Love it!

Does the GVWR over 10K effect you?

 

[Cummins12V98]

I am curious why not a 3500 along with the rear air?

 

[AH64ID]

I am curious why not a 3500 along with the rear air?

3500’s are only available a with auto-level on DRW’s right now.

 

[NIsaacs]

Love it!

Does the GVWR over 10K effect you?

I am good, as long as I have a 3/4 ton, nothing is said about GVW.

I am curious why not a 3500 along with the rear air?

I would love one of those.

But I haul under strict AZ DOT rules that say this:

Any 3/4 ton (or less) pickup, van or car, stay at or under 20 hours a week, I can haul for pay, and be non-commercial.

 

[Ozymandias]

Amazing they still charge 195$ for two plastic wheel arches the value of 2$ that should have been standard equipment years ago.
Unbelievable

 

[Diesel85]

Amazing they still charge 195$ for two plastic wheel arches the value of 2$ that should have been standard equipment years ago.
Unbelievable

Don't hold me to this, but off the top of my head, IIRC the 1500 has been coming with them standard since 2020.

 

[Grumpy8811]

Amazing they still charge 195$ for two plastic wheel arches the value of 2$ that should have been standard equipment years ago.
Unbelievable

break one of those plastic wheel covers that they use on these trucks and start thinking and get the same thought.
Shoot I needed one of the rubber bushings for the manual shift on the transfer case, dealer wanted 44 dollars for what amounts to a small piece of rubber with a hole init..
.. I told them to keep them..
gives new meaning to stealership".

 

[NIsaacs]

https://www.equipmentworld.com/truc...veils-b72-diesel-engine-for-mediumduty-trucks

 

[kthaxton]

I wish our engines got the fancy red paint.

 

[Regcabguy]

I guess they stick to the CP3 now after that desaster.

I think it's a CP4x that's designed for American fuel that has less lubricity than Europe's.

 

[Regcabguy]

Not sure.

I got a feeling after the last debacle with the CARB/EPA, they may not want to take chances.

The whole point of the CP4 was for the higher rail pressures, even though it has less flow. I think the CP3 is 26,000 PSI and the CP4 could deliver 29,000 PSI (actually more like 39,000 PSI on certain designs). 3,000+ PSI is a lot in the grand scheme of things for atomization of fuel for tighter emissions.

My thoughts are Cummins/RAM is prepping themselves for EPA2027 tightened emissions. More so, if it's like anything else we learned in history with Cummins.

I'm perfectly fine if they stick with the CP3.

I'm sitting back watching with my bag of popcorn.

Maybe with the change of command the emissions requirements will be left alone.