T05 - SCR Emissions Recall - Anyone got this fixed yet?

[SnoKing]

Maybe improved mileage is not a placebo effect. This is mixed mileage over the last few days. Which includes several 5-9 MPH trips of 10 minutes in and out of summer RV park and about 80 miles on the freeway. Not bad! And a lot better than it has been lately.

SnoKing

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[mwilson]

Funny am I just blind or is there no "Time in" / "time out" or a labor time listed anywhere here? Guess they don't want people know exactly how long this takes to replace. Been trying to get a hold of my shop manager to schedule but catching him in is not easy during my schedule. <LOL> Thanks again for posting this.

Usually dealer software will not reflect hours or cost on the customer copy of a Warranty work order. There is an internal copy submitted for warranty reimbursement that has that info on it.

 

[mwilson]

The labor time is not a secret,but with a busy shop it will still take time to work it's way into a stall.High demand recall parts in many cases can not be ordered and shipped on demand.There is a specific way of ordering an initial part{s}and from there the part must be billed properly,the paper work closed out before another will be shipped.Some dealers are not good at following the procedures correctly

To add to the above....

We are doing air bag recalls on the Sterling Bullets and as an example those are hazardous material and cannot be flown so overnight freight is impossible. I have to order them one by one from the Daimler PDC and then they are shipped ground freight from another location. Takes at least three days, sometimes longer. Nothing I can do about it.

 

[kthaxton]

I noticed no changes (mileage or otherwise) after the SCR recall was performed on my 2500. What is the theoretical reason for a mileage gain?

 

[SnoKing]

I noticed no changes (mileage or otherwise) after the SCR recall was performed on my 2500. What is the theoretical reason for a mileage gain?

I have no idea! Until I refuel and check the lie-o-meter against the calculator, I will not know. What I do know is that the lie-o-meter has not shown this good of mileage for a long time. Mileage report before before the TSB for similar driving would have been in the 15 MPG range.

Before I would have had to fueled and get right on the freeway at a steady speed for the mileage logged to get the mileage now being reported.

 

[Cummins12V98]

Only think I can think is Chrysler just doses not make the recall available all at once with parts available at every dealer. KarMart in Burlington, WA has plenty of the parts setting on the parts floor but when looking it up the line that shows the 15's is not illuminated like the 14 and older trucks on their computer.

I will wait a while to have them do the repair since they did a great job basically tearing my Son's truck apart to completely replace most of the wiring harnesses from a botched job at AutoNations body shop in Seattle.
They were competent in clearing and resetting some things that were screwed up from the Chrysler dealer in Cathedral City, CA. I have also known Jeramie the parts guy for at least 20 years and have gotten good service from him. He is monitoring the recall for my trucks and as soon as they can get it done they will.

 

[Cummins2014]

Holey F'K! Looks like a mud dauber nest. <LOL>
If you get a chance, let me (us) know what all they ended up replacing. At first I was told it would just be the SCR catalytic module but this last visit he made it sound like it is going to be a whole lot more to it including DEF injection parts. Appreciate the information..

Heres the story I got a few minutes ago on the T05. It depends on whether my truck has or has not got a Ammonia sensor, if has most likely the whole works gets changed, if it doesn't then there are tests to determine whether the SCR gets replaced. Was told the Ammonia sensor becomes the source of the troubles.

So first I need just a quick inspection to check for the sensor, then its goes from there.He told me 90 plus % get changed out regardless of the sensor or not. Thats my selling dealers story.

 

[Hippy43]

Heres the story I got a few minutes ago on the T05. It depends on whether my truck has or has not got a Ammonia sensor, if has most likely the whole works gets changed, if it doesn't then there are tests to determine whether the SCR gets replaced. Was told the Ammonia sensor becomes the source of the troubles.

So first I need just a quick inspection to check for the sensor, then its goes from there.He told me 90 plus % get changed out regardless of the sensor or not. Thats my selling dealers story.

Thanks. Still trying to catch the service manager to see about getting it in. Calling from work, I don't have time to sit on hold or play their thank you for calling, how can I direct your call roller coaster every 3 - 5 minutes. Oh well, it will get done sooner or later. Thanks again.

 

[Bob4x4]

Heres the story I got a few minutes ago on the T05. It depends on whether my truck has or has not got a Ammonia sensor, if has most likely the whole works gets changed, if it doesn't then there are tests to determine whether the SCR gets replaced. Was told the Ammonia sensor becomes the source of the troubles.

So first I need just a quick inspection to check for the sensor, then its goes from there.He told me 90 plus % get changed out regardless of the sensor or not. Thats my selling dealers story.

partly correct- If ammonia sensor and module are not present, Service Bulletin (TSB)
18-088-15 was previously completed on this vehicle. No further action is
required. Return the vehicle to the customer, this recall is complete

 

[Cummins2014]

partly correct- If ammonia sensor and module are not present, Service Bulletin (TSB)
18-088-15 was previously completed on this vehicle. No further action is
required. Return the vehicle to the customer, this recall is complete

Only relaying what I was told . If (TSB) 18-088-15 was done , it was done without my knowing ,nothing in any of the paper work I have from the dealer when taken in for the past 6 recalls. T05, and T25 have yet to be done ,nor has it been to the dealer for those two, they will make 8 recalls on this truck since new.

Whatever this TSB you are talking about, its very doubtful it has been done, if so ,it was done without my knowledge.

 

[TCollier]

Is there benefit of trying to hurry up and get this recall done now? What's the downside of getting more usage out of the SCR system I have now? All the miles I get from this one will just be that many more miles before I'll have to deal with something on the new one right?

 

[Jared Herzog]

My late in the year built 15 has been great. I have no plans to have the dealer do any recall work until it fails. Then the part will go on a truck with more miles so i basically start with a fresh part further in the trucks life. Having said that does anyone know where this ammonia sensor is located? My truck may not even have it. I would like to see what i have. I did receive the recall letter. But, if not repairing it could take out something else i would get it fixed. As i understand it we get a new dpf and scr? If so waiting for the part is a huge benefit if i stay stock so i can get rid of a dpf more full of ash and get a new one.

 

[SnoKing]

My late in the year built 15 has been great. I have no plans to have the dealer do any recall work until it fails. Then the part will go on a truck with more miles so i basically start with a fresh part further in the trucks life. Having said that does anyone know where this ammonia sensor is located? My truck may not even have it. I would like to see what i have. I did receive the recall letter. But, if not repairing it could take out something else i would get it fixed. As i understand it we get a new dpf and scr? If so waiting for the part is a huge benefit if i stay stock so i can get rid of a dpf more full of ash and get a new one.

Back in March I had these TSB completed on our 2015. The transmission works much better towing, in that it no longer hunts between 5th and 4th on small hills.


TSB 08-82-16 ITBM
TSB 08-044-16 RFH RF Hub
TSB 21-004-16 TCM
TSB 05-013-15 ABS
TSB 08-017-17 BCM
TSB 18-037-16 PCM


As noted above I had both T05 and T25 recalls done.

Until proven that RAM's engineers do not know what they are doing, I will go with their judgement. SnoKing

 

[Jared Herzog]

Back in March I had these TSB completed on our 2015. The transmission works much better towing, in that it no longer hunts between 5th and 4th on small hills.


TSB 08-82-16 ITBM
TSB 08-044-16 RFH RF Hub
TSB 21-004-16 TCM
TSB 05-013-15 ABS
TSB 08-017-17 BCM
TSB 18-037-16 PCM


As noted above I had both T05 and T25 recalls done.

Until proven that RAM's engineers do not know what they are doing, I will go with their judgement. SnoKing

Wow that is a lot. I have the Aisin and it works well with no hunting. I wonder if it has any tsb's. i guess i just hate to take in a truck that has been perfect for me so far. In the past i was at the dealership if anything and i mean anything appeared out of wack. This led to fixes that caused more issues. I was always chasing effects of work done so i am very apprehensive of anyone touching my vehicles. I sort of live by if it ain't broke leave it alone. But, going from one extreme to the other may have its own issues i guess.

 

[SnoKing]

Wow that is a lot. I have the Aisin and it works well with no hunting. I wonder if it has any tsb's. i guess i just hate to take in a truck that has been perfect for me so far. In the past i was at the dealership if anything and i mean anything appeared out of wack. This led to fixes that caused more issues. I was always chasing effects of work done so i am very apprehensive of anyone touching my vehicles. I sort of live by if it ain't broke leave it alone. But, going from one extreme to the other may have its own issues i guess.

You do not have a profile or sig line to indicate if you have a SRW or a duallie with lower gears. I tow at 24500 combined in 5th gear at 60 mph. Before the TSB's on a slight hill it would hunt between 4th and 5th, now it shifts to 4th and holds it until it flattens out at the top of the hill.

 

[Cummins12V98]

I don't like the "Lady in the box" after updates!

 

[moparnut72]

I just got the T05 recall a couple of days ago. My dealer is a significant distance from me and I got a feeling that I am going to have to have it inspected and then go back. I know I am having issus with the SCR because I get check engine lights when I am towing the 5th when it is hot out. I had a code checker but it was lost in a fire and i haven't replaced it but when I did use it the SCR was the problem. After several cycles the light goes out and the truck runs just fine. I have been somewhat concerned about it going into limp mode as it has happened quite a ways from home but it hasn't yet. I would let it go but in my recall it states that Calif won't allow me to renew the registration until the vehicle is repaired. I have 3 other recalls that I have let slide because none of them have caused me any concern. So I guess my truck may be tied up for a few days. I have the longest extended warranty I could get so I hope they pay for the rental car.
kk

 

[Hippy43]

Well, dropped mine off this morning to get T05 SCR recall done. Going to pick it up after work. I'll try to get a copy of their WO as it should be more complete than what they give me. Just interested to see what all it actually shows. As for
Jared Herzog not wanting to get any recalls completed until failure, I got tired of getting nag mail and email about getting this one done and a note as to what might / can happen if it is not done. If RAM folks believe these recalls are needed (ESPECIALLY the control arm recall) I'm going to make sure they are done. The T05 recall appears that things could really screw up if not completed. Just look at the pic in this thread of what looks like a mud daubers nest in his SCR. What a mess. Just my 2 cents. Give me a week or two to put some miles on it and I'll post my thoughts on the new SCR.

 

[TCollier]

Wow that is a lot. I have the Aisin and it works well with no hunting. I wonder if it has any tsb's. i guess i just hate to take in a truck that has been perfect for me so far. In the past i was at the dealership if anything and i mean anything appeared out of wack. This led to fixes that caused more issues. I was always chasing effects of work done so i am very apprehensive of anyone touching my vehicles. I sort of live by if it ain't broke leave it alone. But, going from one extreme to the other may have its own issues i guess.

I've never had any issues with hunting either. I've never had to lock out any gear and don't use tow/haul when not towing. I'm more than happy with the performance slow and fast. No lugging and always in the right gear. The only complaint I've got is a hard 6-5 and especially a 5-4 downshift when coasting. One of those TSBs is supposed to take care of that. If I can just get that one for now, I'll wait on the SCR unless there's going to be some type of damage without that being done.

 

[jelag]

Called my dealer with the P20EE code, and they scheduled me in for the T-05 recall as they had parts in stock... NOW 4 days after the work was done the P20EE has returned and they want the truck back for another appointment....