best (in your opinion) AT tires

[cricha]

I called TOYO about this specifically, because the stronger sidewalls in the RT over the AT2s was important. The gal said that the AT2s (all) only had a 2 ply sidewall, the F rating was because of 12 ply tread construction. I don't think she really understood about 2 or 3 ply sidewalls. I had to keep reminding her that my questions were concerning sidewall strength, not tread plys. For what its worth...I read hours of customer feedback on the NITTO ridge grapplers and the TOYO RTs. The TOYOs won out because of the 3 ply sidewall and the many customer comments that they had problems with the NITTOs chunking. The biggest downside to the RTs seems to be wet traction.

 

[Cummins2014]

Currently running the Toyo AT2's. Probably as good as any, although my first set. Have had many brands, they all are pretty much had it at around 40K.

I see the Sailun Terramax At's were never mentioned. Anyone that knows about the Sailuns, and the S637 trailer tire knows the quality. I expect nothing less with Terramax. They are sure worth taking a look at.

Have a friend running them now, couldn't be happier with them size 275/70/18's E rated. He currently has 8K, and he thinks they are wearing well, he full times with a fifth wheel, so they are getting the test. Have a read on other forums of guys running them, and nothing bad to say.

They will for sure be my next tire, a little tired of getting gouged for the high priced Toyo's etc. These Sailuns are about half the cost of my Toyo's . Ya, I know the skeptics, but anyone that has payed the price for say the Goodyear G614's , and then went to the Sailun S637's know exactly what I am talking about .

 

[Conifer]

I actually just installed some 285/75R18 Toyo AT2’s on my truck, and can confirm that they do in fact have a three ply rated sidewall.

 

[cricha]

Conifer - Thank you for an actual verification on the sidewall plys, appreciate that. I ended up going with the Toyo R/T 285/75/18. Got a pretty good price (I think) on a set of 5. I just got back from getting them installed, and it is pouring rain. Tires are a little stiffer than stock Firestones, but certainly a very acceptable ride. Tires are quiet, no vibration or roughness. Looks like I will get to get them muddy tomorrow. Thanks everyone for your input on this thread. It helped me, and others I bet.

 

[Larry Sciblo]

I purchased my first set of Coopers back in October - Cooper Discoverer AT3 XLT, 35x12.50R18LT - and installed them on my 2017 2500 Megacab on the factory Laramie wheels (with no lift or leveling kit). Other than having the low tire pressure light on (for now), I am very happy with the overall look of the truck and ride quality. I was also impressed with how little road noise there is despite the aggressive looking tread. I have uploaded a couple of pictures of the Coopers.

I am on my second set of Bridgestone Dueler Revos, 35x12.50R17LT on my 2004 Quad Cab also mounted on factory aluminum wheels (with 2" leveling kit). I got close to 60K on the first set and have 30K + on the second set with much life to go.

Both trucks, however, are/were driven mainly on-road (highway) with only occasional towing. The 2017 is my daily driver, while the 2004 (w/265K miles) is now "resting" and is only driven periodically.

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Did the low pressure warning ever go off? Thx

 

[VLopresti]

First, I love the way your truck looks. I love the Laramie wheels and don't want to fork out more $ for wheels, and its nice to see a truck without "blacked out look". To me your set up is perfect. And it looks level in the front.....maybe because of the angle of the photo. (you said it did not have a level kit)

With the low tire pressure being 65 max. is weird compared to the Firestones at 80 psi. And yet still rated as an "E". Which I need for the 5th wheel hitch weight.

Funny, I just saw you are in Long Island. I was born in NY and we lived in Copiague, LI. Small world hey!

Thanks for the kind words. The truck is definitely not level, the angle of the photo is deceiving.

Here is link to the Cooper website showing the specs of the Discoverer line:

http://us.coopertire.com/tires/discoverer-at3-xlt.aspx

It's nice to connect with a former LI'er....I'm out in Eastern Suffolk County, near Westhampton Beach.

 

[VLopresti]

Did the low pressure warning ever go off? Thx

The low pressure warning is still an issue, but I haven't had a chance to address it yet. I've been looking at a few posts such as this one on how to change the thresholds:

https://www.turbodieselregister.com/threads/how-to-set-tpms-to-any-pressure.258678/

 

[VLopresti]

Conifer - Thank you for an actual verification on the sidewall plys, appreciate that. I ended up going with the Toyo R/T 285/75/18. Got a pretty good price (I think) on a set of 5. I just got back from getting them installed, and it is pouring rain. Tires are a little stiffer than stock Firestones, but certainly a very acceptable ride. Tires are quiet, no vibration or roughness. Looks like I will get to get them muddy tomorrow. Thanks everyone for your input on this thread. It helped me, and others I bet.

Cricha, best of luck on the new tires. I've never run Toyo's but may consider them in the future based on your feedback.

 

[cricha]

Ill post later on how the tires work for me. so far in pouring rain, not bad.

 

[Big MAK]

Watching my AT3 XLT being mounted now, we’ll see how it goes.

This is an “overlanding” rig and it was a really tough call between these and an MT ... primarily due to a planned run up the notoriously muddy Dempster next year. But opting for the more comprehensive advantages for that 90% of the time it’s not in mud.

Time will tell!

 

[Michaelsloft]

Watching my AT3 XLT being mounted now, we’ll see how it goes.

This is an “overlanding” rig and it was a really tough call between these and an MT ... primarily due to a planned run up the notoriously muddy Dempster next year. But opting for the more comprehensive advantages for that 90% of the time it’s not in mud.

Time will tell!

The AT3 XLTs are getting good reviews. I'm interested in hearing how well the tires work-out for your "overlanding" rig.

 

[Regcabguy]

I am running the Nitto EXO Grapplers, which are the Nitto version of the Toyo CT. They are wearing well, are not too noisy, and are very stable towing. I did get in a little snow in Flagstaff and they worked well.

I had 35's in that tire. Beast of a tire but the noise bothered me. Everything's subjective. I don't think my sound deadening with the '07 is as good as the newer years.
AT2's now and very satisfied.

 

[Cummins12V98]

Just upgraded my 01 Sport front brakes to 3rd gen so I had to go to a larger wheel. The Toyo M/T's were noisy and not a smooth ride.

Went with NITTO Ridge Grapplers, much quieter and much smoother ride. I know two different type of tires!

As mentioned earlier my Son easily made 50k with his same tires, his "F" and mine are "E" rated.

$2,381 plus TX for the tire/wheel combo plus $475 in rebates at Discount Tire.

 

[AH64ID]

I’m getting AT3 XLT’s installed Monday.

I was going back and forth between them and the ST MAXX’s, and the warranty/design info won me over on the XLT’s.


I won’t put another Toyo product on any of my vehicles. Unfortunately even there better label of Nitto suffers from a lot of the same Toyo BS.

 

[JR]

I put a set of XLT's on in June and have put a few thousand miles on them. Truck has been used on a Couple of decent length camping trips, hauling my tilt deck trailer and firewood. For an A/T tire I'm pretty satisfied with the way they clean out in the mud. I've had A/Ts in the past that gummed up within a couple of tire revolutions and it's game over. They are quiet and smooth on the highway as they should be new. I've yet to use them in the snow, this was the one thing that hung me up because I generally won't buy an A/T tire unless it carries the mountain snowflake rating.

I initially used Counteract beads when I mounted them, they were smooth up to around 65mph and developed quite a vibration. So I ended up buying another set of Centramatics and that smoothed them right out. I had a set on my 98 and regretted selling them with the truck from day one.

 

[GrantP]

Unfortunately even there better label of Nitto suffers from a lot of the same Toyo BS.

What BS would that be? I'm running 37" Nitto Terra Grappler G2's and have been pretty happy with them over the last couple years. I do have a friend that had two failures on his Land Rover with the same G1 tire but I can easily attribute one of those failures to a low profile and choosing a bad line off road.

I'm not trying to be defensive or accusatory, but I am curious if there is some underlying tire construction issues that I need to know about. I did absolutely hate the Toyo MT's I ran on my second gen that everyone was praising years ago but I never had a failure with them.

 

[AH64ID]

What BS would that be? I'm running 37" Nitto Terra Grappler G2's and have been pretty happy with them over the last couple years. I do have a friend that had two failures on his Land Rover with the same G1 tire but I can easily attribute one of those failures to a low profile and choosing a bad line off road.

I'm not trying to be defensive or accusatory, but I am curious if there is some underlying tire construction issues that I need to know about. I did absolutely hate the Toyo MT's I ran on my second gen that everyone was praising years ago but I never had a failure with them.

They are a quality tire, just get horrible tread life.

They are notorious for burning down rapidly to 5/32” and then getting really hard and stop wearing.

When I was picking a tire I talked to a couple shops about Nitto and they all reminded me that they are a Toyo product and they wear like it.

Dad had 2 sets of Dura Grapplers on his 06 for the extra load capacity, and they wore out really quick. Mostly highway miles and not a ton of heavy towing.

They just charge too much for their tires with how fast they wear out.

 

[JR]

I sold my 98 with a set of 285/75/17 Tera Grapplers. They were a good highway tire but I was disappointed in their snow and anything off-road performance. If I was in wet grass in 2 wheel with no load on the rear they were spinning. And like I mentioned above, a few tire rotations and it's game over. They would just glaze over. I never put enough miles on them to speak to the durability but my over all impression of them was a good highway tire with poor true A/T characteristics.

 

[Big MAK]

Initial impression of the Cooper AT3 XLT is positive. Quieter and smoother handling then the stock Firestone Transforce (should not be legal to sell) tires - should be renamed Firestone Trashforce.

Fyi: I mixed things up a bit - not wanting to swap out my 20" limited wheels and also wanting to go slightly but not much taller - slightly less of that low profile from the 20s.

Mounted 285/65r20:
Diam: 34.57"
Tread Width: 9.69"

vs Stock 285/60r20:
Diam: 33.4"
Tread Width: 9.5"

They seem perfect - still good clearance on stock wheels and a little taller just like we wanted - and still with factory offsets and wheel size recommendations for the tire.

Reprogrammed to match with AEV ProCal - because I'm ocd.

happy side effect: that annoying gear whine at 70-75 is gone due to the barely larger tire diameter resulting in fewer rotations of the R&P at that speed. I'm still working out my long term fixes but at-least I don't have to get headaches from it while I finish fixing it.

 

[AH64ID]

New tires are on, and the alignment is under way (setting to Thuren specs).

I did peek at the tires and they are now 3PMSF rated. I read that cooper was getting the AT3 XLT’s certified but hadn’t seen anything recently. The 275/70R18 is certified! Another win for these tires.