$1,000 off Dealer Invoice including California Certified Trucks!

[RustyJC]

ON EDIT - I forgot, I better check my viper that is on order, seeing as I sold a few more trucks today :-laf

Hey, since you're making all that money at 30% dealer profit ( ), send that new Viper down here to Hennessey Motorsports and let them "warm it up" for you! :-laf



Heck, I might even drive it back to St. Louis for you and buy a new truck from you to drive home. :-laf :-laf Then you could buy a 2nd Viper for a spare!



Rusty

 

[Murle]

Invoice... an itemized list of goods, shipped to a buyer, or of services rendered, stating quantities, prices, fees, shipping charges, total of amount owed. To make payment of invoice for items.



Now you may have not said the invoice price is what you paid for it, but it is implied since you are using the word INVOICE.



So don't say it is 1000. 00 off invoice ( which indicates that is what you paid for the truck ) when it is not. Ever wonder why car dealer have such a bad reputation? That is why you hear at the end of a car commercial "Invoice may not be what the dealer acutually pays for the vehicle" Car dealers got their butts sued for false advertising. Now go back and read the definiton for INVOICE again and see if it does not mean what is owed for the item received..... It is all a gemick that car dealer use.



You might even what to put a disclaimer here on TDR saying INVOICE is not the acutual cost of the vehicle to the dealer.



Next time a lawyer hands you a INVOICE for services rendered... You had better pay what the INVOICE says. But of course a car dealer may be stupided enough to think that the INVOICE is really not what is owed.

 

[RustyJC]

Now you may have not said the invoice price is what you paid for it, but it is implied since you are using the word INVOICE.

I believe most of us have been at this game long enough to know that "Dealer Invoice" is a handy reference point for pricing that's readily available through any number of sources (e. g. , kbb.com). Therefore, advertising at "$1000 below invoice" gives me enough information to determine the Dealer Invoice, take the $1000 deduct and have a pretty good idea what the truck is going to cost me versus quotations I've received from other dealers.



Frankly, I don't care what the dealer paid for the vehicle. I'm only concerned about what I'm going to pay for the vehicle. I don't expect the dealer to sell new merchandise at a loss.



Rusty

 

[Murle]

I agree Rusty, I always thought that is what "Suggested Retail" was for... . To give some idea what the item is going to cost. Somewhere there or below. I understand that everone has to make a profit... . But I will never deal with anyone that tries to use gimmicks. When I go to a car dealer I ask the price that they will sale the car for... . If it is what I want to pay then I pay it. If not I look somewhere else. I have had the dealer tell me a price... I then say I cannot give that and start to leave..... The dealer most of the time will hit me with a lower price. That is when I will get up and walk out and not do business with that dealer because he was trying to screw me. Give me the lowest price the first time..... I want honesty and good service. You can get neither from a dealer that will not shoot straight with you the first time.



I will never do business with any dealer that advertises at or below DEALER INVOICE.



I would like to see a dealership that puts his product out like all other business. Put the lowest price on it and sell it for that price. No salemans needed not bull... and no hassel. Kind of like going to a gas station. There's the price,pay it or go down the road and see if you can find it cheaper... .



Maybe gas stations could sell more gas if the advertised 10% off DEALER INVOICE!!!!

 

[Tomeygun]

Invoice... an itemized list of goods, shipped to a buyer, or of services rendered, stating quantities, prices, fees, shipping charges, total of amount owed. To make payment of invoice for items.

This is true, and we as the dealer DO pay the amount listed on the invoice... because it is goods purchased...

So don't say it is 1000. 00 off invoice ( which indicates that is what you paid for the truck )

Well Dodge calls it an "Invoice", What should I call it??? "3% under white paper that has letters & numbers" ????

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That is why you hear at the end of a car commercial "Invoice may not be what the dealer acutually pays for the vehicle"

If you are going to quote, get it right, its "Invoice may not reflect the final cost of vehicle" -- Slightly different, but gets the point across, because we may get kick-backs that reduce our final cost... kind of like a mail-in rebate



SO, murle, what should I call that white piece of paper that DC sents me??

 

[RustyJC]

I don't know of any manufacturer other than Saturn who has made a go of "no haggle" pricing. The feedback I've heard is that, no matter how much the consumer complains about the process, they still want to "horse trade" when they walk in to buy a vehicle - that is, no matter what price the dealer quotes, the consumer still expects him/her to come off of it. Therefore, I think both sides are to "blame", if one wants to assess blame for this process.



The last two vehicles I've bought have been via Internet transactions. I knew before I walked in what I would be writing the check for, and I was in and out in less than 2 hours.



Rusty

 

[Tomeygun]

Frankly, I don't care what the dealer paid for the vehicle. I'm only concerned about what I'm going to pay for the vehicle. I don't expect the dealer to sell new merchandise at a loss.



Rusty

Nicely put... The final price is what matters, NO MATTER how we get there. .



MURLE: sounds like you've been burnt a few times... I am sorry someone did that to you, and made a bad name for a guy like me

 

[Murle]

No, I have not been burned. Just won't do business with anyone that not up front and honest.



In fact just 3 weeks ago bought the wife a new 2005 Mustang. Walked in asked the price... . Dealer told me the price they would take for it... Wrote the man a check... Told the man the wife would pick it up that afternoon. Was out in 15 mins. That is the way to buy.

 

[Tomeygun]

No, I have not been burned. Just won't do business with anyone that not up front and honest.

You say that as if to imply that is the way I am because I use the word "invoice" --- (if that is not what you meant to imply, I am sorry)



I assure you, I am about as upfront and honest as a salesman can be, and still have a job :-laf



Either with a quote or a formula to take to your local dealer... I think most people value my honesty



Well, I think this thread has ran its course... Back to twin-turbo dreams, and

"DON's EDM" wishes !!!

 

[KYLE4]

The price wars begin

 

[gthiessen]

Whew that was fun reading . It's kind of funny people think profit is a dirty word. Oo.

 

[BIG BOB]

Merle,



I just had a thought, why don't you go down to your local dealer, spec out a truck, and get a price on it.



Then give TomeyGun and Butch a call to compare prices. Just a thought.



Just another point that you probably already know, the "Dealer Invoice" is not the MSRP listed on the window sticker, it's somewhere around 11% less.



Here is another thread that talks about it.



https://www.turbodieselregister.com/forums/showthread.php?t=117874

 

[Murle]

Never said profit was a dirty word. Just don't like the fact they advertise and indicate that they are selling the trucks at 1000. 00 under cost. Which is what they are trying to tell us by saying 1000. 00 under dealer INVOICE.



No big bobby, Like I said before, don't do business with people that use gimmicks. Besides I buy close to home. And even if you could beat them 1000. 00, it is not worth the trip to your part of the country. Also I get good service here. You see If I have a problem and my truck is in for repair, my dealer gives me another Dodge diesel to drive till mine is repaired. At no charge. That is good service.

 

[swaite]

Tomeygun and Big Bob, just wanted to say thanks for your efforts here on the TDR. Tomeygun, I wish you had been able to order CA trucks back in January when I ordered mine. Seeing that it's about due for a second oil change, I guess it's too late now :-laf

 

[Tomeygun]

Tomeygun and Big Bob, just wanted to say thanks for your efforts here on the TDR. Tomeygun, I wish you had been able to order CA trucks back in January when I ordered mine. Seeing that it's about due for a second oil change, I guess it's too late now :-laf

Your welcome, I glad you enjoy the info we bring here.



And you are right, too late now to trade... Once the factory oil is out, it depreciates very fast!! :-laf

 

[BIG BOB]

swaite,



Thank you for your appreciation! I just happened to run into this great deal and thought I would share it with you guys. Many, many people on this site and other sites can vogue for the great deals TomeyGun and Butch are giving people, at lease those who want to take the time and check them out.



As for Merle, Open mouth and insert foot! :-laf Enough said to you!



You can take a Merle to water, but you can't make him drink! :-laf :-laf :-laf

 

[BIG BOB]

This great deal is still available for those in the Northwest, Southwest and Western US, if anyone is interested!



For those on the Midwest, Southern and Eastern give Tomeygun a call, He'll give you a great deal also!

 

[Tomeygun]

This great deal is still available for those in the Northwest, Southwest and Western US, if anyone is interested!



For those on the Midwest, Southern and Eastern give Tomeygun a call, He'll give you a great deal also!

AND the rebate is up to $1500 + $1000 (CFC)



not bad, huh?

 

[KevinO]

Murle if you don't like the way they do business then don't buy from them, but don't run your mouth about them when you have no business to be doing so. The people that do buy from them appreciate it very much. I bought from Tomeygun and will do it again. He is by far cheaper than any other place I have been and actually knows a lot about the product. I would dare to say you were burnt and can't imagine getting a "better" deal than you did on your truck. I got mine at the employee price and it's not much different than Tom's price.

 

[Tomeygun]

BTW - My waiver went through, CA trucks are now being ordered!!!!