A little love for White Lightning.......

[Shiner]

potatoe, potato.

 

[TFucili]

Mercy

 

[Ozymandias]

I installed a coolant filter because i wanted to and had nothing else to do.

 

[kthaxton]

From the top or the wheel well?

 

[Newsa]

Extra fluid capacity in my opinion is always a plus. I added coolers to my G56 not becauae they were needed. Just for the hell of it and for peace of mind. I don't tow heavy enough to need the extra capacity.

And i don't remember exactly who recommended the Redline MT 90. But my transmission has never felt better than with that fluid in it.

 

[Cummins12V98]

NICE!!!

 

[gsbrockman]

I finally hit 120,000 miles this weekend on a return trip home from Byhalia, MS. After arriving home, I pulled the stock plug on the AS69RC and started draining it, then, about :30 later, removed the pan then the sump filter.

Since the PML pan utilizes 5mm hex bit style fasteners, I ended up purchasing a set of Craftsman ball socket style hex bits from a nearby Lowe’s.

https://www.lowes.com/pd/CRAFTSMAN-6-Piece-Set-Drive-Hex-Bit-Metric-Driver-Socket-Set/1000593755?cm_mmc=aff-_-c-_-prd-_-mdv-_-gdy-_-all-_-3193464-_-2470763-_-10935405&AID=10935405&PID=3193464&SID=800103035160554520:W80hvCZBH6Eb&cjevent=909b3b015b8c11e9820601960a24060c

White Lightning received and OEM sump filter (p/n 68224232AA) but I reused the OEM gasket once again.

I have also found (during 6 sump filter changes on my previous 2014 RAM 3500 DRW with AS69RC and compromise 3.73 gearing) that a light coating of Loctite Spray Adhesive works wonders in keeping the gasket in place during reinstallation, and it does not prevent one from using it a few more times.

Since these trucks have a TBV (thermal bypass valve) in the transmission lines, I did not expect to see any reduction in transmission fluid temperatures. Mine still hovers at 163*F same as before, but it *might* take a little longer to get to that temperature.

The PML pan added 3 quarts to my system........my servicing this time required 13 quarts versus the ten quarts I measured from the drain pan. Additionally......this is with the fluid level being at the upper most portion of the “HOT” range after hitting minimally 163*F.

Since we all like pictures....here’s a few.....

 

[mgreen18]

I finally hit 120,000 miles this weekend on a return trip home from Byhalia, MS. After arriving home, I pulled the stock plug on the AS69RC and started draining it, then, about :30 later, removed the pan then the sump filter.

Since the PML pan utilizes 5mm hex bit style fasteners, I ended up purchasing a set of Craftsman ball socket style hex bits from a nearby Lowe’s.

https://www.lowes.com/pd/CRAFTSMAN-6-Piece-Set-Drive-Hex-Bit-Metric-Driver-Socket-Set/1000593755

White Lightning received and OEM sump filter (p/n 68224232AA) but I reused the OEM gasket once again.

I have also found (during 6 sump filter changes on my previous 2014 RAM 3500 DRW with AS69RC and compromise 3.73 gearing) that a light coating of Loctite Spray Adhesive works wonders in keeping the gasket in place during reinstallation, and it does not prevent one from using it a few more times.

Since these trucks have a TBV (thermal bypass valve) in the transmission lines, I did not expect to see any reduction in transmission fluid temperatures. Mine still hovers at 163*F same as before, but it *might* take a little longer to get to that temperature.

The PML pan added 3 quarts to my system........my servicing this time required 13 quarts versus the ten quarts I measured from the drain pan. Additionally......this is with the fluid level being at the upper most portion of the “HOT” range after hitting minimally 163*F.

Since we all like pictures....here’s a few.....

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That pan looks slick (and the fluid capacity bump is nice) but the first thing that I noticed is all that room around the back pan bolts! That design combined with a hex fastener will make future pan drops a breeze.

 

[jhenderson]

That pan looks slick (and the fluid capacity bump is nice) but the first thing that I noticed is all that room around the back pan bolts! That design combined with a hex fastener will make future pan drops a breeze.

All that room is a function of the 4500 cab and chassis crossmember vs the crossmember in our pickups. It is a very nice pan allthe same.

 

[mgreen18]

All that room is a function of the 4500 cab and chassis crossmember vs the crossmember in our pickups. It is a very nice pan allthe same.

As the current owner of an AS69rc equipped cab and chassis truck (as well as a seasoned Aisin pan-drop veteran), I can assure you that is not the case. The 5500 trucks may be an exception, as I have not performed a service on that particular mode, but the crossmember is very much an issue on the rear pan bolts on the C&C trucks, as I’m sure you’ll notice if you revisit the photos uploaded earlier in this thread, particularly the shot taken directly from the side. Follow the rear taper of the pan leading to the bolts that are DIRECTLY over the front section of the crossmember. Replace that tapered section with the “inconsiderate” lines of the factory pan, and you’ll see that it is all but impossible to access these fasteners on a C&C truck, as well (at least on mine).

 

[gsbrockman]

More pictures to confirm my 2018 RAM 4500 is a straight shot.....no swivels or universals required.....

 

[jhenderson]

As the current owner of an AS69rc equipped cab and chassis truck (as well as a seasoned Aisin pan-drop veteran), I can assure you that is not the case. The 5500 trucks may be an exception, as I have not performed a service on that particular mode, but the crossmember is very much an issue on the rear pan bolts on the C&C trucks, as I’m sure you’ll notice if you revisit the photos uploaded earlier in this thread, particularly the shot taken directly from the side. Follow the rear taper of the pan leading to the bolts that are DIRECTLY over the front section of the crossmember. Replace that tapered section with the “inconsiderate” lines of the factory pan, and you’ll see that it is all but impossible to access these fasteners on a C&C truck, as well (at least on mine).

Doesn’t appear to be the case on Greg’s truck. That’s obvious looking not only at the picture he just posted but at the photos of his alum pan installation. You can see the crossmember isn’t shrouding the back of the pan. Since the pan mounting holes are fixed, it’s not the pan that makes the bolts accessible. It’s the crossmember.

 

[Cummins12V98]

View attachment 112479 View attachment 112480 More pictures to confirm my 2018 RAM 4500 is a straight shot.....no swivels or universals required.....

Show off!

 

[gsbrockman]

Tonight I rolled in from a 686 mile round trip run delivering two gooseneck trailers from Somerset, KY to the retail store in Marietta, GA. White Lightning is at 153,632 miles, so it’s just a little overdue for the 30k drain and fill.

When I got home, I left the truck idling, kissed the wife and daughter, changed into some work clothes, and gathered up my drain pan and wrenches. Within 45 seconds of shutting off the truck, my partial / half-azzzzzzd drain and fill was underway.

I’ll leave it draining overnight, although on most of my previous drain and fills, very little additional fluid came out after the :30 mark. When dropping the sump filter, more fluid drains for an extended time whenever the sump filter is out.

Due to the drain plug location of the PML pan, it will be interesting to see if I get the P0868 code, like I normally always got with just the sump filter replacement.

Since this is my first drain and fill with the new pan, I will need to measure the fluid drained. I’m expecting to replace between 10.0 to 10.5 quarts or so.

 

[gsbrockman]

Well....the results are in.

Looks like I was off a decent amount in regards to the amount drained. According to my empty containers, I drained 12.0 quarts of old Mobil 3309.

Attached are pictures of the magnetic drain plug and my 3 (1) gallon containers of verified Mobil 3309 drained. Yeah.....it was just a partial / half-azzzzzzzzed drain, but my AS69RC thanked me for it.

Additionally......I feel the additional fluid drained is due to the pan design. The OEM pan is angled, keeping the sump filter submerged. The new pan is more flat, and deeper, allowing the sump filter to drain freely after the drain plug is removed.

With that being said....PML touts a 3 to 4 quart increase over the stock pan.

On my OVERNIGHT drain, I will be seeing a 5 quart increase.

 

[Cummins12V98]

"I’ll leave it draining overnight,"


HMMMM sounds like a bit overkill??? Sounds like how I do most of my changes, must be having an influence on you. Next thing you will be sending me a PM asking about AZZ/OIL.



"On my OVERNIGHT drain, I will be seeing a 5 quart increase."

You seem to be stating it's good to get more of the old fluid out???

 

[gsbrockman]

"I’ll leave it draining overnight,"


HMMMM sounds like a bit overkill??? Sounds like how I do most of my changes, must be having an influence on you. Next thing you will be sending me a PM asking about AZZ/OIL.



"On my OVERNIGHT drain, I will be seeing a 5 quart increase."

You seem to be stating it's good to get more of the old fluid out???

No......I am just stating that PML says a three to four quart increase over stock. I observed a 5 quart increase in replacement fluid due to the pan design. Duhhhhhhhhhhh....

Since I rolled in at 9:15 pm last night, and had put in 700 miles in a 13 hour day.....I decided I’d drain it hot and deal with refilling this morning. If I’d come back in at 4:00 or 5:00 or so.....it would have been started and finished the same day.

Nice try, though....

Not a snowball’s chance in Haiti that I’d entertain running AZZZ/OIL in anything I own.

 

[Newsa]

Posting my UOA results here. You can see all 4 UOA's.

I switched from Kendall Super D XA 15w 40 to Amsoil Dominator Diesel 20w 50. But i ran a bit low of Dominator Amsoil so had to add 2 qts of Redline 15w 40.

You will notice the drop in titanium and the increase in molybdenum. That's due to the pressure additives (difference) i beleive.

I was pleased with the low metal numbers. Not so pleased with how wimpy the Amsoil was. Engine temps ran completely normal. We were not towing anything. Truck weighed approx. 10,000 lbs with cargo

Seems the amsoil has deteriorated in just over 8000 miles. And the TBN is shot. I expected better from a premium oil. When the truck gets back from gettimg warranty work done on it at the dealer, i will change the oil (and full flow and bypass oil filters) and change to 15w 40 redline which i have in the shed.

It looks like the oil (fuel) dilution i was experiencing is periodic which would indicate a truck going into active regen too often around town. The oil/fuel dilution is too periodic to be a leak in the fuel system.

 

[gsbrockman]

Today, at 176,235 miles, White Lightning received all kinds of TLC, in the form of...

• Transfer case fluid change. Once again, I used two quarts of O’Reilly house brand Dexron VI.
• Front differential change with Castrol 75W90 GL5 Synthetic.
• Rear differential fluid change with Castrol 75W90 GL5 Synthetic.

Transfer case was the simplest of tasks. The house brand O’Reilly fluid in the form of Dexron VI has done me well all previous changes. I also rotated the tires on White Lightning. The Firestone FD690 Plus tires are doing me well.

Earlier this week, I had another 5 gallon pail of Castrol 75W90 GL5 Synthetic gear oil transferred to my local O’Reilly Auto Parts.

Today is only the 2nd time the front differential fluid has been changed in the 4500. The first time was done at my selling dealer, as I developed a leaky differential cover and the re-seal and fluid cost me $0.00 as it was a warranty item. My not-so-scientific method of checking the fluid condition (removing the plug and FINGERING THE HOLE) gave me enough confidence that it was still good. Today, when I dropped the fluid, it confirmed my suspicions that all was indeed actually well. The magnet indicated no wear as the magnet was free of debris. Having owned several 3rd and 4th GEN pickups, I’ll admit I was quite spoiled with the ease of servicing the differentials. The 4500 must be resealed as it does not have a reusable gasket. A can of Permatex #85080 gasket maker worked wonders though...

The rear axle is a breeze. Remove one of the lower bolts and out comes the fluid. Down side is it is impossible to check the “health” of the innards as the 4500’s do not have a removable rear cover. This fluid change also confirmed no excessive wear as the magnet showed no debris on it as well. Today makes fluid change #4 for the rear axle.

 

[TFucili]

I see you had Junior Samples making notes.