Power Wagon- I'm beginning to dislike you. You get way to fired up over little things and your personal interpretation of the message others are trying to convey. In other words, you are way to easy to offend. Bill didn't bring any emotion into this, you did. Now back down. You're upsetting your costomers.
Now back to the topic at hand. I like the idea of an indestructible tcc. I spoke with Don on the phone, and was very impressed with the incredible amount of engineering they put into their new converter. Bill's lockup clutch is good, but ATS's lockup clutch idea has a large potential for being better. If all the clutches in the transmission only had one surface to use, they would not last very long. I like the idea of a multi disk clutch and I understand why it is better than the single clutch currently used in our torque converters.
These guys aren’t about just making a quick buck, they are out to make the best products for our trucks that can be made using the technology currently available. In a case where the necessary technology doesn’t exist, they MAKE the technology; they invent whatever is necessary to accomplish their goals with an extremely talented staff of drive train engineers. They are for real. Don’t take this as ANYTHING against DTT; I have had the DTT experience, and I got what I paid for. Bill is one hellovan excellent engineer himself. He knows the transmission that Chrysler built as well as anyone. The thing that sets ATS apart is that, for the most part, they took what Chrysler gave us and tossed it out the window. For all practical purposes they aren’t even dealing with the 47 rh or 47 re torque converter anymore. It is altogether something entirely different. The rest of the transmission is given the same dose of engineering, making it more than strong enough to withstand shifting in lockup. Yes, something has to take the stresses of shifting without the cushion of a fluid coupling, and that is the extremely tough friction compounds used in the clutches, and a very strong and effective dampener in the torque converter. That dampener is what takes the place of the fluid coupling, only instead of absorbing the energy and converting it to heat, it uses springs which give the energy back as additional torque. I don’t think that the stock clutches would take the stresses necessary to accomplish this, that is one heck of a lot of power to put through them.
Another thing that separates them is their warranty. They don’t care if you have 700 hp. They don’t care if you shift in lockup and do 4 wheel drive launches. They don’t think that it should only last one year, or two years, they will warranty their transmissions for three years. Even if you do abuse it to death, you have three years to break it. Even if it breaks after that, they will still take care of you. They might not fix it totally free of charge at that point, but you won’t be hung out to dry. Them’s good folks, they are really there to make us happy. They will try ever bit as hard as Bill, and we all know that is an extremely hard (but not impossible) thing to do.
Chris
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