Another Smarty thread...I don't like it so far

[CBradford]

thanks... ... i know i don't have one already tho... ... don't have a USB printer... ... i can't imagine the cords are that much tho... ...

 

[Russellmag]

I know this has probably been asked, do you have an ETA on the release for the 06?



Thanks, JR

 

[Bob Wagner]

I know this has probably been asked, do you have an ETA on the release for the 06?



Thanks, JR

I will have a beta 2006 today estimated delivery 06 smarty is mid october

 

[driverno8]

WCPoe - Thanks for the instructions. Got it figured out because of them.





OK here's my results using the stock tq management.



First off, I forgot to unplug my EZ which is always on 2. So all these runs are with the EZ on. Sorry if it screwed up anything.



Second. This standard or stock tq feels better then the true stock. Hope we get all this figured out because I'm looking forward to trying the mild tq management.





#1 only - Good and solid. No rattling or pinging. Felt great, except for I have felt better out of my truck. I really like the way it felt all the way through the power band. Pulled good and solid.



#1 w/TST on 1/0 - Felt like #1 only quicker. Started to rattle higher up in the RPMs about the same time my upper power started to go away.



#1 w/TST on 2/0 - Bad rattling/pinging as low as 1800-1900rpms. Felt great up to that RPM range, which isn't much. But the bottom end and seat of the pants felt were great.



#2 only - At this point I'm digging this Smarty. Pulls like a mother but starts rattling bad about the same RPMs as above. Temp did come into effect. As I was easily able to hit 1600*



#2 w/TST on 1/0 - Really bad rattling. Especially when I let off. Quick right off the line then the truck falls on it's face and starts making really bad noises (ie. rattle) When I let off it was still rattling for maybe a second or a second and half. I put the TST back to 0/0 and drove home.



Didn't really bother going to #3 or higher or even mild tq management, because it's pretty obvious things still aren't right. Overall way better feel then the original Smarty download. Also, smoke over all increased each time I went farther but nothing extreme like the standard software.



Marco, hope there's enough there to go on. Thanks for everything on trying to get the bugs worked out with us guys that run injectors. Or us SO guys, which ever it is.

-Matt

 

[WCounts]

Lets try one of those new soft wares.

I like the original so I think I'll up load Smt 3EV303D302B. Better go have a beer.

Lets go for a ride. Right off the peddle is much less touchy and it takes longer for the transmission to up shift. Had to adjust my T/V cable a little and now shifting just right. Ok lets see if the cruise control works better. Perfect! No more surge.

Truck still has the power and fun to drive but more manageable.

How many down loaders can you update from your computer?

This Smarty is great!

Thanks Marco

 

[Bob Wagner]

thanks for the update billy

 

[Marco]

driverno8,



First off, thanks for the tests!

Let's analyze them for the rattle part.



Software version #1 ( stock TQM ), key # 1 on Smarty , alone is OK. Adding the TST starts to rattle.



OK, that one I can understand . Key # 1 one has increased timing. Adding even more ( TST ) could be too much.



Software version #1 ( stock TQM ), key # 2, alone is not OK, rattle is there.



OPS, this one I don't get. Key # 2 does NOT, in NO way increase timing! Why should it rattle then? I guess the previous speculation about the timing or TQM causing the rattle was wrong then! Your findings make it seem the other way arround...



At this point it would be interesting to see what happens if you download key # 3. This one is the same as # 2 but adds timing... .



Hmmmm



Marco

 

[driverno8]

I will load #3 and let you know. Remember, I have bigger injectors and it's an SO.

 

[Marco]

I will load #3 and let you know.

Thank You!

Remember, I have bigger injectors and it's an SO.

Yes of course I know. Yet, there has to be a root somewhere for the rattle.

I mean, I'm ready to do whatever it takes to solve your problem but first I need to understand ( more or less ) WHAT to work on.



Thanks,



Marco

 

[WCounts]

After driving arround a bit my transmission has never shifted better. The smoke is very controllable even under moderate accelaration. I'm running sw #6 and tst 2/1 so the power is there when needed.

The new soft ware is great. Don't be afraid to try it.

 

[JVolpe]

I am having a problem getting an XP system to identify new hardware so I can load the usb drivers. I have tried two different XP SP2 systems and neither one launches the found new hardward wizard when I plug in the USB cable. They both beep to indicate the physical plug in and the Smarty powers up normally. I have used both of these machines to upgrade my BD Triple Dog a few times. Wonder if that USB driver install is an issue?



Any ideas Bob, Marco or anyone.

 

[Bob Wagner]

the device may have installed incorrectly. go into your control panel in my computer. go into system then hardware then device manager.



expand the usb controller section and plug smarty in and out to see what is being removed from the usb buss



my guess is that smarty is being seen as another device





clear as mud? :-laf

 

[driverno8]

Marco, here's the #3 update...



Remember EZ is on Level 2 on all these runs.



#3 & TST 0/0 - Feels great. No real rattle unless I keep it at around 2,000 rpms. Like if you're just cruising. As soon as I get on it rattle goes away and it pulls hard. I'm liking it so far.



#3 & TST 1/0 - Rattling is back, but can power through it. But it doesn't sound good.



Ok. So know this whole test got me thinking. Let's pull over and load #5...



#5 & TST 0/0 - Your daddy is really liking this. Pulls really hard. No real rattle. Maybe a bit around the 2,000 RPM range. But the needle blows by 2,000 RPMs really quick. Plus my trucks straight piped so it's hard to hear much anyway. I didn't touch the TST all on #5.



ok, now for the fun, yet confusing part...



#7 & TST 0/0 - This friggen thing is unreal. Small rattle... maybe. But I have to try to get it to do it by leaving the RPMs around the 1900-2000 range. EGTs come into play a bit if I'm all the way down on the throttle. Not all the way mashed and it got to 1500* and stayed there. Nice!



#7 & TST 1/1 - Holy I TRIED TO BY-PASS THE CUSSING FILTER!!!!!! Rattle is there a really tiny bit. But there's so much going on (like having to hold the steering wheel with both hands so I don't crash) that I didn't really notice it. Didn't even have time to look at he gauges. Thumbs up! Way up!!



#7 & TST 2/1 and 2/2 - Bad rattle. No good. Power is gone. Motor sounds like it's got marbles on top of the pistons. Extremely flat poor power all the way through the RPM range.





What's weird is the higher I went up the rattle seemed to go away a little bit each time. As soon as I touched the TST it's back. Except for the #7 setting. I'm sure it's there, but with all that's going on, all hell is about to break loose. I love it. Smoke on all settings increased as the setting went up. But nothing major. Very controlable and kinda California friendly. LOL



So now you more confused?

 

[JVolpe]

the device may have installed incorrectly. go into your control panel in my computer. go into system then hardware then device manager.



expand the usb controller section and plug smarty in and out to see what is being removed from the usb buss



my guess is that smarty is being seen as another device





clear as mud? :-laf

I see said the blind man. I'll give that a shot tonight.

 

[JVolpe]

driverno8,



Try the TST on 2/0. Any TE number on my TST/EZ/Smarty stack does funny things, rattles and pops on WOT.

 

[driverno8]

driverno8,



Try the TST on 2/0. Any TE number on my TST/EZ/Smarty stack does funny things, rattles and pops on WOT.

I did actaully. And the rattle was there pretty bad. I'm with you any of the TST TE numbers. Truck is just useless. Except for as it sits now with it #7 & 1/1. It's actually the first time I've been able to put anything into the TE. I do notice a differnce between 1/1 & 1/0 though. That's what's weird about all this. I've never been able to run anything on my TST except for now? Doesn't make sense.

 

[driverno8]

OK I lied. I just went out drove it around, had to take care of somethings. This time with the windows up. The rattle is there on #7 & TST 1/0 or 1/1. Mainly at the higher RPM range and when I first let off. I set the TST back to 0/0 and it's all but gone. Rattle is very, very slight but enough to were you can hear it. Power is great all the way through the RPM range and it powers right through any rattle, making the rattle go away. Until I let off, then it's slight. Sorry about the earlier post.

 

[Marco]

driverno8,

good report, I hope you're having a little fun...



Please do one more step! Try for example SW#6 instead of 7.

I mean, if the rattle you get is timing ( from Smarty ) related than on a SW without timing increase you should have no rattle at all. That in turn would mean the you'd need a less advanced timing; a no brainer...



Just gimme something "real" to work on.



Thanks,



Marco

 

[driverno8]

OK, went out and loaded #6. Feels good. Not as peppy as #7. Maybe equivilent to #3 or #5. No pinging/rattling that I can tell. As soon as add any timing via the TST (1/0) all heck brakes loose under the hood. No go.

 

[JStieger]

#8-



Your observations are exactly like mine so I am glad that my truck is not an freak of DC!



The big question:



No Smarty + TST = no rattling



Smarty (no timing program) + TST = rattling



I would be curious to see results from a truck with smaller injectors than our 90 HP ones, like the Flux type etc.



I just hate to shell out even more $$ to convert my old TST to an adjustable timing box - that's the last resort!