Bridgestone / Yokohama Tire advice

[RON'S RAM]

I will be buying 4 tires for my 97 4x4 2500 soon. I was considering two tires in particular: Yokohama Geolander A/T & ll, and Bridgestone Dueler A/T D693. Does anyone have any experience with either of these tires? Likes, dislikes, mileage???

My last tires were Cooper Discover. I did not like these in the snow, and only got around 35,000 miles out of them. (now bald) mostly city driving. Any advice in the next few days would be appreciated, Thanks.

Ron...

 

[M Barnett]

I am running the Bridgestones. About three years old and doing great. Doesn't snow or rain here in the desert, so can't comment much on those conditions. They are also quiet, and the only tires I've had that didn't wear fast.

Michael

 

[chucksram]

I know that the Duelers have a 60k Mileage Warranty.

They have a new Dueler A/T called The Dueler A/T Revo. Much better than the original A/T.

Chuck

 

[Red Rocket]

I had the Duelers

I put the duelers on my last truck, and found a couple things. I tow a lot and work on construction sites a lot. Those tires pick up nails like magnets, and they always developed a fast leak right away. They also wore like madness, good for about 20,000 in my conditions. They are descent in the snow and rain, but so far my new truck has michelin ltx m/s, and I've picked up numerous nails, and it is not an immediate problem that makes you drop everything and fix it, second, I already have 26000 on this set, and they are lookin for about 50,000 they willl be good. Double life is worth the extra money to me. When they are replaced, I'm staying with the michelins.



Nick

 

[RON'S RAM]

I previously had michelin's on another vehicle of mine and got great mileage, and handling. I considered those for this truck, but could not find them in the 285/75/R16 size. Anyone have any luck with the Yokohama's?

 

[RamThatStroker]

Ron's Ram,



I've owned two sets of Yokahama Geoloander A/T's. My first set I got about 45,000 miles on them and I'm on my second set now. I have found these tires to be quite exceptional in the rain, snow, and mud. I've owned Goodyears prior to trying the Geolanders and they don't even come close to the perfomance of the Geolanders. The only complaint I have about them is that their not offered in a "E" rating which can be a problem if you tow heavy most of the time. If you have anymore questions I'd be happy to answer them.



Thanks,

Joe

 

[gsbrockman]

I think you'd be happiest with the Bridgestones--but I'd also get the NEW Dueler AT REVO's that are now out. I run the LT285/75R16's Dueler AT's on my 2000 RAM 2500 Quad Cab, and they're great. My 3. 55 axle ratio is now 3. 42 . I run 48 psi in front and 43 psi rears, and they wear great. The newer 2000 & up wheels that are 16x8 help them wear better than the 16x6. 5 wheels. I had a 98 2500 RAM that had the OE LT245/75R16 Michelin LTX M/S's, and man did they s-u-c-k ! All I EVER heard was how great the Michelins were. I never experienced the warm, fuzzy feeling everyone said they received with the Michelins. My tires were roated every 4000 miles (with the oil change) and they were gone at 28,000 miles. My truck was used for personal use--no trailer towing. In light snow, I had to engage the 4wd just to take off in dead level ! My 2000 RAM 2500 had the LT265/75R16 LTX A/S's , and I ditched them after 300 miles and bought the Bridgestones. My current tires with 33,000 miles are about 60% worn. They require little initial wheel weights to balance them and do not require re-balancing very often. The wet traction is great, too. My neighbor wants them for his Chebby, so I'll be getting the new Dueler AT REVO's shortly.

 

[Amianthus]

I just got the Geolanders AT+II's. At $98 each I thought, why not. All the reviews I read were favorable. So I took the plunge.



First impressions, they are way more aggressive than I thought they'd be. But they are super quiet going down the road. They are a little squishy due to the softer sidewall. But that's due to the "D" classification. The ride is much better than before. The handling in the rain was very good. Towing was good except for the "D" rating. It made the drive a little ghostish. Empty though, the truck drives great on these tires.



I have only had the tires for a couple of weeks. So I don't have any winter driving behind them, but I think they'll do just fine. I would buy another set in a heartbeat. Up to now, they are excellent tires and I don't regret the purchase. I would highly recommend them. It won't be wasted money.

 

[jmtandem]

285 tires load range 'E'

Amanthus,



Which 285 tires come in load range 'E'? The sidewall load weight on my 285's load range 'D' is just over 3000 pounds, about the same, I think, that the stock 245's have with load range 'E'. Is there more to load ranges than the weight they will carry?

 

[Amianthus]

That's a pretty vague question. The reason I say that is that I have no idea how many other manufacturer's make an "E" tire in the 285 size. Although, my luck finding such an animal was extremely limited. The 285's I found were either "C" or "D". Mostly "D".



The weight rating may be similar as was the case with the 285/75 R16 Duellers I was looking at. But the sidewalls and tread plies are different as you change tire rating. Hence the different weight handling characteristics. The "D"'s have a softer sidewall and allow the vehicle to understeer somewhat. The only "E"'s I could find were from Michelin and they were way more money than I wanted to spend at this time. I think these Yokohama's will work out just fine.

 

[willyslover]

go over to your local Costco and browse their "special order" book. . all the spec's right ther in front of ya

 

[RON'S RAM]

Thanks for the reply's. I decided on trying the Yokohama's. The tread does look pretty aggressive, yet they are unbelievably quiet. They give a smooth ride with the truck empty. We'll see how they do towing the 5er to the Nascar race at NHIS in a few weeks. Hopefully we'll get some snow this winter so I can see how they handle that. I was amazed at how little most tire sales people know. Sears told me they could not get that tire, until I pointed it out to them in their own book. Then they told me it did not come with a warranty so I should get the road hazzard protection. I showed them the warranty in the book, but was told the book was outdated. National Tire and Battery wasn't much better. I stuck with a local small tire dealer, got better service, and saved $50. 00 a tire over the tire chains.

 

[Blakers]

Here's a real good site to check out tire specs and make comparisons - Tire Rack. You can even select several tires and compare them in columns.



Their prices are good, but I found them locally for about the same.



For instance, here's a search for 285/75-16



Blake

 

[jmtandem]

285's load range 'D' or 235's load range 'E'

The tire comparison thread confirms my earlier posting. The smaller size 'E' rating is about equal in load max weight to the larger 285 tires load range 'D' rating. Besides the sidewalls and size are the tires almost the same for carrying a load?

 

[BGDUMMY]

I have the Yokos!!

Had some 33/12. 50/15's on a Suburban and now

265/75/16's on the Ram. I like them alot, but if you tow a bunch, I would look for a Load range E. I tow a TT about twice a month and I can tell a difference between these and the Badyear 235's. A little more fish tailing.

Other than that they do great all around.