Competition Calling Out The Edge Truck

[RacinDuallie]

Here, I feel I should let this be known... ... .

If there is any company or shop out there in Diesel Land, looking to promote their products on a full zoot race truck, at all the events possible, for maximum promotion- I am available to serve..... I swear and promise to drive the rig HARD!Oo. For maxmum exposure and promotion of your shop, company and products... . and for an excellent fan base will show up to run at all the popular events and not be biased to exclusively running one santioning racing body, I'll run YOUR rig hard anywhere-anytime- you supply the means. . . . .

If interested you can PM me for arrangement on meeting.....



And if your not interested in the full zoot race program, I'm accepting parts to use/abuse as donation on the ol duallie racer... . I'll promote whatever ya give me to run with as hard as I can. I think the ol duallie would look pretty slick all set up in race trim with on board sponsors plastered neatly across the landscape of sheetmetal on the ol duallie... .....




If located in the North East that's a plus!





phone lines are open!

Oo. :-laf :-laf

 

[KLockliear]

If there is any company or shop out there in Diesel Land, looking to promote their products on a full zoot race truck, at all the events possible, for maximum promotion- I am available to serve..... I swear and promise to drive the rig HARD!Oo. For maxmum exposure and promotion of your shop, company and products... . and for an excellent fan base will show up to run at all the popular events and not be biased to exclusively running one santioning racing body, I'll run YOUR rig hard anywhere-anytime- you supply the means. . . . . Oo. :-laf :-laf

It's all about who you know. :-laf

 

[RacinDuallie]

It's all about who you know. :-laf

:-laf I'm willing to know who-ever is interested; that is interested in having some exposure for their company or products; and want's to go racing.

I wouldn't care if it was Viagra, Trojan Man or Krispy Kreame Doughnuts. . ect. You supply the bucks and I'll start the promotion tourOo.

 

[RacinDuallie]

I can have a program ready to start on upon signing of contract, and expenses agreed upon... ..... Lol !

 

[GIT-R-DONE]

Oh Mr. Hogue, everytime I think it may be good to talk to you, or include you in all of the fun, you prove me wrong-I obviously have wasted my time.

I told you before Eric... . but you wont listen.



Anyone can show a time slip on the internet..... I could even make one up if ya all want me too. Then , when push comes to shove... tell ya I wont race at your event. Either way I win. This is entertaining reading at best.....



As a matter of fact Eric..... If Comp would ever decide to show up for a race. (DHRA)..... I WONT support the DHRA anymore.



Ill bet there are even more people like that.



Its too bad ole Comp cant see the forest for the trees.

 

[RacinDuallie]

I told you before Eric... . but you wont listen.

Anyone can show a time slip on the internet..... I could even make one up if ya all want me too. Then , when push comes to shove... tell ya I wont race at your event. Either way I win. This is entertaining reading at best.....

As a matter of fact Eric..... If Comp would ever decide to show up for a race. (DHRA)..... I WONT support the DHRA anymore.

Ill bet there are even more people like that.

Its too bad ole Comp cant see the forest for the trees.

I can understand your frustration with Greg, but by posting and acting in this manner and taking the stance you would take IF he was to run at a DHRA event- wouldn't that be along the same lines as Greg boycotting the DHRA?

 

[GIT-R-DONE]

I can understand your frustration with Greg, but by posting and acting in this manner and taking the stance you would take IF he was to run at a DHRA event- wouldn't that be along the same lines as Greg boycotting the DHRA?

Of course I dont speak for the DHRA, but, with Comps current attitude, how he is the only diesel head out there, is always on the "cutting EDGE' ( which I find amusing ) but yet has everyone else make his parts for him and build his motors... ... . he is not (IMHO)... ... . DHRA WORTHY !



His attitude adjustment will come when he is not Allowed to come to an event... ... then his sponsors will wake up and ask why.



As far as boycotting Comp and any DHRA event he may show up at..... why would I go to an event to listen to a pompous, arrogant person ... ... . I can get that anytime with my mother-in law... . :-laf

 

[Turbo Thom]

I think the point is to support DHRA as an orgainization. If Greg ever shows up, then who will have egg on his face. And believe it of not, if Greg and Eric ever did start a dialogue, how that would help this sport grow. Erics good looks and Gregs mouth.



I speak for me, and me only, but I believe the Garmon team will race DHRA. I will race DHRA. And everybody I know in racing around here, will also. They are the only viable diesel organization they has it going our way. Jeff and Darren are in Indianapolis now for the awards ceremony in Pro Street and bracket trucks. So why worry who shows to race? Hope they do and then root for the other side. I do.



. . Preston. .

 

[COMP461]

Translation: Eric didn't KMA so I'm gonna take my toys and go home.



Get over it Comp. Your conduct on this board is probably a large indicator as to why people are hesitant to work with you. "Attitude adjustment", come on! Whaddya got a "mom complex"? News flash, you didn't give birth to diesel performance. .

Doesn’t seem to hurt me any at all, a lot of people are helping me, and I keep rolling, on building my own motors with advice, and help from many others. I torque every bolt on them, Ray is there helping, and building other teams engines that we are developing together .

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After the no show last year, I would advise any promotor even thinking of working with you to get the details in writing. Other than telling you to cut the crap, I see nothing even remotely offensive in that post. Heck, thats what every other reply to this thread has been about. Cut the crap, show up and have a good time. Period. The DHRA is way more than one person, as is any sanctioning body. If you want to let that stand in the way of some serious publicity, go ahead. It sounds like they've already got a couple tube trucks anyway

Never told any promoter that I would show up, what I did do was tell people on here I had plans to go, was just that plans, I heard from reliably sources that a complete look at my truck was going to happen and they were going to go over it with a magnifying glass. Would you go under that condition? I have race on a semi professional level for many years, and bring a lot of knowledge to the table, and will not be treated with disrespect. Many of you on here have talked to me on numerous occasions, and I have helped everyone with knowledge they thought was helpful.



You are exactly right, dhra is a promotion company and is solely owned by two individuals trying to make it their living. In the beginning I would have helped them just like everyone else , but after the raw treatment of myself less the optimal deals I see going down , I will work just as hard promoting Diesel fuel vehicles in the general publics eye , and helping to bring diesels in the sunlight of NHRA drag racing.

Imagine running Pro Street at a NHRA divisional event with qualifying on Friday night, Saturday all day, and racing on Sunday, the opportunity for exposure is enormously greater. You might say the Pro Street guy would never desert the dhra for a gasser race, but the vendors will jump at the chance to portray there produces in front of demography rich with consumer’s venue. And when vendor start to pay bigger money for the more exposure, and lest you forget at this level of racing its about nothing but money and exposure . This could happen sooner then you think, I an others are working on it diligently to get it done, maybe this summer maybe a vendor or two would put up the money for a big money race . the exposure would be worth the expense . and after talking to several vendors in the last few day , this is on the fast track.



The deals we are working on next year don’t even involve a diesel vendor as a sponsor, their focus is on National events where there is real publicity, and on the multitude of charity and motivational speaking appearances we do,

Outside of this small group of people , that I talk to for fun , and answer question , to many both in PM’s and on the phone , I am rising up the ladder , I don’t see a need to go to any diesel event , unless its just for fun , because the opportunity is not there to get any sizeable national audience.



You speak out , but do you really have a dog in this hunt , are you going to try and build something to compeat with me or the other in my class.



And if I am not worthy , then why has no one beat my time , the time on the scoreboard is all that matters , with, with out , heavy , light .





I apologize to the rest that set back and see this, and I do get you PM of support, thank you , but people that will never run with me , espouse that if only they had what I had they would rotate the earth that I am less of a racer , because of { insert reason } and what I have accomplished is so easy to do, come on out and play there is usually a spot beside me on the race track. .



One more thing, and there is a reason people give me the equipment I have given for me to use. I earned it , I started by washing parts on a fuel team , and comp team, and it was years before I was given a chance to drive, and years later before I got my own program.

 

[R-N-R]

Doesn't the NHRA have a forum for you to hang out on?? Oh never mind, I would miss the entertainment. Self promotion by belittling, antagonizing, or otherwise generally irritating the audience isn't something I see everyday.

 

[COMP461]

http://members3.boardhost.com/CompForum/

 

[Steve St.Laurent]

Greg, correct me if I'm wrong but isn't a half hour show on ESPN2 national exposure? Or spots on another half hour show on TNN? I don't recall any of the races that you've been in with your truck being on national TV. Did you ever consider that your "reliable source" might not have known what they were talking about or possibly wanted you to not show up? I have no idea who it is your talking about but don't you think it would look very bad for a sanctioning organization to go over one vehicle with a fine tooth comb and none others? Let's say that your assertion that the principles behind the DHRA are in it only for the money is correct (which I personally don't believe they are) - wouldn't something like that be bad for their image and the future of their organization? It simply wouldn't make ANY sense at all for them to do what you are alleging they were going to do. What would they gain by it? Not only that you have no proof at all that was the case - how could you if you weren't there? I guarantee that the guys that raced at IRP this year and went to the final rounds and were on the show on ESPN got more "impressions" than you have at any race that you have run at thus far - simple math would tell you that.



Above you said "And you would want the money going somewhere besides a good worthy cause. As in the race promoters coffers". How would having you come to race at IRP put money in the race promoters coffers? I have news for you - LOTS of people were/are attending IRP and I would wager that your showing up or not showing up won't make one iota of difference in the turnout. The person who is losing out by you not going to IRP is you. When I was watching the show on TV I was actually thinking that it was unforetunate that you weren't there for the exposure. I'd like to see everyone in this industry succeed and you lost out by not being there. You weren't the only one BTW. There was another company that didn't come to compete in the sled pull because of a minor disagreement - and I felt bad for them too that they missed out on the the opportunity of that much exposure.

 

[KLockliear]

I heard from reliably sources that a complete look at my truck was going to happen and they were going to go over it with a magnifying glass. Would you go under that condition?

You mean like at SEMA '04 where you were on your hands and knees crawling around the Edge truck trying to look in the fender wells and such? You were so nice to me that day, and shook my hand and told me how great we were doing - then you look at what you write on the TDR about us. Go figure.

 

[JoshPeters]

You speak out , but do you really have a dog in this hunt , are you going to try and build something to compeat with me or the other in my class.

Regardless of having a Dog in any fight, What people want is results. They have heard of your multiple very fast runs, but outside of a handful of DIESEL people, no one has seen them.



What I think is really happening here... . which is where I stand... .



I want to see it. I want to see a video, I want to see a Picture of the scoreboard with a cloud of smoke going by and the tail of the truck. I want to see... . Something.



Your right, we don't have the truck to run with you. I, and I will use the term WE loosely, don't have that kind of capital. You are driving a VERY expensive truck. To honestly think that any of us could sit down and build one on what 95% of what this group takes home would be ludicris. So please stop bringing up the dog in a fight.



Your not comming to IRP last year was in the eyes of those of us who came out HOPING to see you come was a big dissappointment. Sure plans can change... . BUT nothing was said about not comming till after the fact. Why was it that much of a concern about how they were going to inspect your truck? I'm sure they didn't just let Keating show up and run. I watched them tech some of the Sled pullers. They didn't give anyone a pass bye. If your running as fast as you are, they need to check your truck with a fine toothed comb. Being one the first Televised diesel events, I'm sure it would have looked great if a major malfunction occured at the speeds you run.



Honestly to me, it sounds like a cop out. Ya know what, I'm a competitor too. Softball tourneys, bowling tourneys, sled pulling, those are the things I enjoy and do. I EXPECT them to check anything and everything in the rule book any time I show up. 2 years ago, for a month, I was in first place for the Minnesota Mens State Tourney. (over 1000 bowlers over 2. 5 months every weekend) When I was done bowling, they checked my bowling balls and made sure they were within the rules. (ended up 6th for the tourney) Last year when I got 83rd, Nothing no checks it wasn't that they didn't care, but I wasn't at the top. When you run the top of your game you have to expect it and deal with it.



Josh

 

[RacinDuallie]

Josh,

Maybe they wanted to check Greg's Balls too:-laf :-laf ... ..... or lack of... ... ...

 

[DHRA]

You mean like at SEMA '04 where you were on your hands and knees crawling around the Edge truck trying to look in the fender wells and such? You were so nice to me that day, and shook my hand and told me how great we were doing - then you look at what you write on the TDR about us. Go figure.

Speaking of SEMA '04, Greg took me up to Dr. Sadler's truck and showed me around it. He asked if I saw anything that looked "unsafe" or technically flawed. I said that for the most part the truck looked great except for the exhaust running through the cab and I suggested a stack out the hood. Not only that, but when the rules are just safety, what would make you think that we could find things to keep you from running? Why would we do that? I guess Greg's idea of a sanctioning body and our's are different. It's an EXHIBITION class, we don't have a defining set of rules governing it because they aren't competing.

Items checked on Keating and Bentz's rides:

Chassis cert.

harnesses

Fire suit

Helmet

Parachute present

transmission shield



Keating had called me way in advance to make sure he had everything and Scott wasn't there when I looked at his stuff, but I knew he already had everything. I did the inspection in their pits.

 

[Turbo Thom]

RD... ... ... That was hateful. Any how, Josh probably has black balls or blue with red rings around it. And the size, I know Greg can't compete with that.

 

[GIT-R-DONE]

what I did do was tell people on here I had plans to go





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How soon we forget...





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[Cooker]

I don’t see a need to go to any diesel event , unless its just for fun , because the opportunity is not there to get any sizeable national audience.

I guess Comps not coming to IRP or any other "diesel" event to run his truck down the track. I don't understand how you can claim to be so concerned about the promotion of the diesel motorsports industry but won't show up to support diesel motorsports in their own arena



When staying home is a better idea than showing up to one of the largest diesel events because your audience is not large enough your idea of promoting diesel motorsports varies greatly from mine

 

[COMP461]

I feel that diesel motor sports , is best served in any arena, if you look at it realistically , most diesel events are full of people that are already entrenched in their brand of diesel performance. Were as a NHRA nation event with 10 times or more people per days per day for 4 days , chock-full of people that own diesel power vehicles , these same people have never been exposed to diesel power ,and are more suited to giving the sponsor their maximum amount of exposure. I would have been at Indy if it had worked out , but I am almost a one man show up until the last few months . I maintain the race truck build the motors , drive the rig ,and still race in NHRA arena in a gas class . I am running the Vegas race in the end of march , Mopars at the Strip. Last year I ran, or crew chiefed races, in comp and super stock I would run , but will not be disrespected , would you show up at that kind of deal, when NHRA is a 4 day race , not a 4 hour race.



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