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I can't honestly say JR. I tore in to the JD when I looked at it. Filters etc. are easy. I wasn't exactly impressed with the overall quality though. Definitely homeowner grade machine at best. I'll have to take a closer look the next time I look at one.


Is the 11k just the tractor? IE no loader or any other attachments.
I'm more curious than anything as ive not priced a unit like this.
 
Is the 11k just the tractor? IE no loader or any other attachments.
I'm more curious than anything as ive not priced a unit like this.


Tractor, 54" drive over mid mount mower deck, and turf tires. No loader. I actually asked them to quote a 48" deck so I'll have to ask them to revise.
 
If I were buying just another garden/lawn tractor, this would probably be a contender.

JD X570. 24Hp Kawasaki. Hydrostatic.

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The dealer a few miles from my house quoted me $5900 for it but told me to hold off until Jan 1 if I was interested and he could do better.

The thin plastic hood scares me a little, but otherwise not a bad little tractor.
 
If I were buying just another garden/lawn tractor, this would probably be a contender.

JD X570. 24Hp Kawasaki. Hydrostatic.

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The dealer a few miles from my house quoted me $5900 for it but told me to hold off until Jan 1 if I was interested and he could do better.

The thin plastic hood scares me a little, but otherwise not a bad little tractor.
I have no idea what materials are in their hoods now, but when I was still a dealer the LX series lawn tractors were introduced with "plastic" hoods, versus the fiberglass of the outgoing models. Dealers immediately began grumbling UNTIL we were brought to a demo area and handed Louisville Sluggers to have at it. Turned out the resin was made by Eastman Chemical, and it was called Ektar. It is what they were making combine cabs out of. It was color-through, and unbelievably tough, plus you could compound scratches out. No idea if they still use that.
 
I have no idea what materials are in their hoods now, but when I was still a dealer the LX series lawn tractors were introduced with "plastic" hoods, versus the fiberglass of the outgoing models. Dealers immediately began grumbling UNTIL we were brought to a demo area and handed Louisville Sluggers to have at it. Turned out the resin was made by Eastman Chemical, and it was called Ektar. It is what they were making combine cabs out of. It was color-through, and unbelievably tough, plus you could compound scratches out. No idea if they still use that.


My 2003 has the composite hood and front covers. No issues. This material seems incredibly thin in comparison. I'm sure it is fine. But, it appears very cheap.
 
My 2003 has the composite hood and front covers. No issues. This material seems incredibly thin in comparison. I'm sure it is fine. But, it appears very cheap.
They have ventured into the box stores since my day, and that never results in better products.
 
I've got to give South Bend Clutch credit, I ordered Monday morning. Clutch was waiting for me when I got home.

Now if any of you would like to come on over Saturday....I'll buy the beverages. :)

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Love SBC. Installed one of their clutches in my 2001.5 in 2003 with plenty of power upgrades, occasional heavy towing and it is still going strong.
 
Love SBC. Installed one of their clutches in my 2001.5 in 2003 with plenty of power upgrades, occasional heavy towing and it is still going strong.


I've used them since as far back as my former '01 also. I ran a Con FE in that truck and probably had 500+ passes on it down the drag strip when I sold it with no issues. That was a great clutch.

I've installed quite a few of them over the years for myself and on other's trucks. I just hate doing the job.
 
Nope. Sure didn't. If there would have been any indication of a leak, I would have had one on hand before the trans came out. They aren't exactly easy to source on a moments notice. I've made a couple of calls and haven't given up hope that someone has one locally. But, I'll probably just end up getting one from the Cummins shop in Somerset when they open on Monday.
 
All finished. It would have been finished 3 hours ago if it wasn't for trying to track down the rear main seal. Just took it out for about a 30 mile run. Works perfect. The old clutch plate looked like new but obviously the flywheel was what failed on the old unit.

The new G56-OK-HD is just slightly more noisy with the new single mass flywheel as compared to the stock clutch. Feels great. Clutch engagement with the new hydraulics that South Bend sent in the kit is just a little heavier than it was before. They even sent the new hydraulics already filled and ready to go out of the box. Didn't even have to bleed it. That's a pleasant surprise and a great example of their attention to detail.

Also replaced that red shifter boot seal on the top of the trans. It was just starting to leak, but it wasn't worth trying to reuse the old one when it was out. Also took the time to change the transmission and transfer case fluid. Both came out looking great with no sign of wear metals or heat issues.
 
All finished. It would have been finished 3 hours ago if it wasn't for trying to track down the rear main seal. Just took it out for about a 30 mile run. Works perfect. The old clutch plate looked like new but obviously the flywheel was what failed on the old unit.

The new G56-OK-HD is just slightly more noisy with the new single mass flywheel as compared to the stock clutch. Feels great. Clutch engagement with the new hydraulics that South Bend sent in the kit is just a little heavier than it was before. They even sent the new hydraulics already filled and ready to go out of the box. Didn't even have to bleed it. That's a pleasant surprise and a great example of their attention to detail.

Also replaced that red shifter boot seal on the top of the trans. It was just starting to leak, but it wasn't worth trying to reuse the old one when it was out. Also took the time to change the transmission and transfer case fluid. Both came out looking great with no sign of wear metals or heat issues.
Very Impressive! Fast work and even with taking the time to change fluids and seals!
My 1999 currently with 259k miles has the original clutch, showing no signs of weakness or failure, (but you never know) and wondering if I can take on the project if and when needed.
Sounds like the South Bend kit is the way you go for replacement parts.
Enjoy the new clutch and again, very impressive indeed.
 
Very Impressive! Fast work and even with taking the time to change fluids and seals!
My 1999 currently with 259k miles has the original clutch, showing no signs of weakness or failure, (but you never know) and wondering if I can take on the project if and when needed.
Sounds like the South Bend kit is the way you go for replacement parts.
Enjoy the new clutch and again, very impressive indeed.


Sure, you can do it yourself. It's no different than any other clutch change. Only, the parts are much heavier and cumbersome to handle. I've just done a lot of them over the years. I can't take credit for today on my own. My buddy Mark helped me out and he is 100 times the mechanic that I am. It pays to have skilled friends.
 
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