Duramax Crankshaft Failures??

[WileyCoyote]

Maybe this is old news, but I have not heard it before.



A visit with one of my salesman friends (yes some of them are) who sells both Ford and GM revealed an interesting story.



He says that their GM dealership in a town of 25,000 has had two lower end failures in Duramaxes they sold. He said that they were rod failures.



In another conversation with a class 8 (Peterbilt) salesman, he said that his information on the problem from a commercial operator in Denver is that the problem with the bottom ends of some of the early Duramaxes is that the initial production model had CAST, yes CAST crankshafts instead of forged cranks. This commercial operator had two failures in their fleet of wreckers. It was believed that the failure happens when changing from pulling hard to coasting, due to a torque spike reversal.



In all cases, GM immediately (in one case air freighted) new engines for the dealers to install.



The further rumor is that the current production engine has a forged crank.



If this is true, it looks like the GM bean counters struck again.



Harry

 

[BCFAST]

Not Sure

I'm not sure why, but you seem suprised.....

 

[ata]

The Duramax comes with a Forged Steel, Nitrided Heat Treat Crankshaft. Just another Saleman story or hear say or some more Bull. What ever! Got Vin No. s

 

[_MACKIN]

LOL #ad
Some friend he is full off BS don't take offense . Why would GM take the chance ?

http://www.gm.com/automotive/gmpowertrain/engines_cartruck/diesel/

#ad
I won't need any vin #s . LOL #ad

 

[RonaldLarson]

G.M. take a chance?

Hmmmmmmm, Northstar engine failures by the gross, the Vega, the Corvair, the Oldsmobile, the rusted out Suburbans and Blazers in the 80's... ... ... ... ... .....

But then, it's all a Chrysler owners' vast conspiracy.

Ron

 

[Bandit1]

I have heard of another failure i was talking to my mechanic the other day and he told me that his friend that owns a brand new Dmax ( only 7500 miles on it, could get the vin number if it is that big of a deal) and he was driving down the road and all of a sudden he lost power and parts started falling all over the road. he had it towed to the dealer and it will remain there for 2 months waiting for a new engine. the chevy mechanic told the guy that the engine had pressed in aluminum sleeves or at least that is what my mechanic told me, anyway the sleeves started to fall down the cylinder and ended up hitting the crank as it turned causing the engine to grenade hence the parts all over the road. jsut thought everyone would like to hear that true story. i know that every engine has problems but i still dont understand the use of aluminum on any part of a diesel, and neither can my mechanic

 

[_MACKIN]

I came here for a couple reason one was my friend is a D/C owner allthough I don't own one I am interested. I thought I would get more info and be educated. Wow I am now ashamed to be a member here. I must inquiry about a refund. It is like being at a childrens play ground, I thought this was an information forum on all diesel. And some people would not want bias brand loyalist BS. I never gave it . Guess not I was wrong. Point me to customer serv. I will not stoop to your level apparently the will allow anyone here MEN and BOYS... ... ... ... ... I am out of here... ... ...

 

[_MACKIN]

Before I get my credit:

Bandit !

please send VIN # I have and know how to find out if your friend of a friends uncles story is correct... ... ... .

ol ron

I don't have time to list but here's one can you say OMNI they all (brands) have their I wish we could go back to the drawing boards

and I thought it was a good idea vehicles.



Ata you are correct thanks Man !!!!!!!!



Just remember I can take a little ribbon and a joke here and there but, immaturity and there followers that's another story. I am a leader no follower here and this is a waste off my time.

 

[JHansen]

Sorry to see you go.....

..... but IMO expecting to come into a Dodge-only forum and find a bunch of Duramax supporters is almost as unrealistic as me going over to one of the Duramax sites and expecting everyone to bow down to the mighty Cummins-ain't gonna happen! . You will find a lot of guys here that own a CTD strictly for the Cummins engine-and a few of us like myself who bought the Dodge part and got the Cummins part as a much-appreciated bonus. Either way-most of us are staunch fans of our trucks despite their few idiosyncracies and will defend them to the death... ...



If a GM/Duramax is what tickles your fancy-more power to you. Not for me thanks-I like my trucks loud, rough and boisterous-sacrifice you make to get what I feel is the best combo on the market right now! Maybe the Duramax will turn out to be the greatest thing since sliced bread-I have serious doubts but I was wrong once before in 1993 . You pay your money, you make your choice... .



Sorry that you feel we're all immature followers over here-if you truly feel that way you probably should ask Robin and Robert for a refund.



My 2 pennies worth-take it as you will.



Jason

 

[LarryB]

Originally posted by amcintyre

I am that DURAMAX that this guy ran into .

This cost me $35. oo bucks to set record straight . Dosen't happen to often when you get to hear both sides to the story.

I'll to be fare let him fess up . The way he explained it was wrong . As he stated he went back up north . So I'll give him till Tues to respond. To all the critics I do not want vin. #,s but the truth.

Let me begin :

With my right hand on the BIBLE I do solemly swear to tell the HOLE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH SO HELP ME GOD.....

This is how it really happened:

I was cruising along minding my business in the right lane cruise set at 76 mph when

ALONG CAME A DODGE CUMMINGS ... ... ... ... .

WHO PULLED UP BESIDE ME... ... ... ... ... .

THEN HE MASHED THE RIGHT HAND PEDAL... ... ... ... .

HE STARTED MAKING SMOKE LIKE A PILE OF JUNK TIRES ON FIRE... ... ... ... ...

... ... ... ... to be countinued... ... ... .....

will he respond ???????

He he, looks to me like he's here just to pick a fight. :

 

[wcaldwell]

I only wish amcintyre, along with many others, would learn how to spell or start using spell-check. It's so hard to read many of the posts when there are so many mis-spelled words and horrible punctuation.

 

[ata]

EXCUSE ME! Mister JHanson, But I though this was a Turbo Diesel site. I have never seen anywhere that this is a Dodge site only. In fact it`s been encouraged that other brands join in so we can all learn about each others trucks.

 

[Rob Thomas]

A freind, er, rather an accuaintance, who has a duramax, well he did have a duramax. It was in the shop so many times,they lemon lawed it. It wouldn't stay running, another accuaintance who also has a duramax,never had a problem,but even if he did he would never, ever, tell me!!

 

[ata]

amcintyre, Don`t get a refund hang around. You`ll want to post on some more of the hard to belive post. You are right it`s hard to understand the bias on this site sometimes. But just take it with a grain of salt.

As for truck problems they all have them. No matter what the brand. So stay with us I want to hear the good and bad on the Chevy Duramax. The Truth and only the Truth!

 

[_MACKIN]

????????????

First off I didn't come here to pick a fight. I have lurked here for a number of months. I had an opportunity and a reason to join. Ramhead, who turns out to be a gentleman who has given me some useful info on another thread. We had a bumping into on the way up north. It was hard to believe he was a member here and posted, small world. I wanted to make a point and did and please take the time to read the entire post and you will see were I am coming from. I am not a basher but just representing a different view. I don't expect support for what I choose to drive. Just giving some info. If you don't want it fine with me. Make this a private Cummins only site.

As far as the Duramax having problems hell ya the all (brands) do. I know some have been bought back on the Lemon law hell ya. If mine had a problem I would tell you so. Search here I have explained some Allison glitches. Otherwise it runs perfect. It does suit my needs for comfort and drivability.

I know the majority of the poster are top notch. Those of you that are need no response from me. They feel the same way I do. If I came here bashing I wouldn't blame any one for circling the wagons. When it comes to a point where it is not a trading of useful and truthful info,but rather a trading of insults I want no part of it. I have my out. If, like I say, becomes a toilet typing contest I'll option out... ... ...

Later

Back on topic what started this was a Duramax

He says that their GM dealership in a town of 25,000 has had two lower end failures in Duramaxes they sold. He said that they were rod failures.



the early Duramaxes is that the initial production model had CAST, yes CAST crankshafts instead of forged cranks.

... ... ... Come on does anyone believe this? Before this motor went into production all of the specs were out. I thought it was a joke. NO?

 

[Mr. Brewski]

Thats a good looking truck amcintyre! Too each his own - This is the first Mopar product that I've owned in a long line of GM products. I still like em' (Chebby's) - but they wont put a Cummins in their truck. Not to say I have to have a Cummins, because Isuzu makes some pretty respectable medium duty engines too. I originally thought, a few years back before hearing about the Duramax, that GM was going to go with a small Clatipillar in their trucks. I might've been interested in that, but after hearing about the Duramax, I still had a foul aftertaste from the 6. 2 I owned. The Duramax has yet to stand the test of time. And thats my main reason for not looking more seriously at one.



Even if its loud, sounds like a logging truck, and rides like a buckboard wagon - I still love my Dodge...

 

[TxDieselKid]

Originally posted by ata

EXCUSE ME! Mister JHanson, But I though this was a Turbo Diesel site. I have never seen anywhere that this is a Dodge site only. In fact it`s been encouraged that other brands join in so we can all learn about each others trucks.

While it is encouraged for all brands to join, is it not obivous that this is the DODGE site? Does the magazine not give it away? Maybe you should look at the home page of the site that says... .

The purpose of the Turbo Diesel Register is to give Dodge/Cummins owners more satisfaction in the ownership of their pickup.

this can be found about half way down THIS page.



It is great to have more then one brand to talk about, however, yes some do make outlandish claims about D-maxes here, i. e. the sisters cousins brothers son who owns one. Does this make it false? Not always. Would you expect it to be the person posting the message, that would mean they own it. Would this make sence? No, because this is primarly a Dodge site. I do not lurk the Chevy site as I have very little intrest in it, however I am sure that the same type of thing happens about Cummins powered Dodges over there.



I welcome you off brands over here, but do not jump us on our own territory, the only flame threads we like are Amsoil, K&N, and posts from Bill Kondolay.



Andrew



This message was edited for spelling, I know I still missed some, but, I, like my truck, and not perfect. Well I am not at least

 

[PRout]

Hang around, you might learn something.

 

[ata]

I`m sorry TxDieselKid I guess I need to be in School to read between the lines as to where it says Dodge owners only or Dodge site only. The part you pointed out is what the purpose of the Magazine is. The purpose of the Site is to Parallel the Magazine. But still does not say Exclusive only to Dodge Cummin`s Trucks. You must have missed the Articles in the TDR Magazine`s on the Durmax and Power Stroke Engines.

 

[_MACKIN]

FLAME............

I have never flamed this forum ... I have only been flamed here. Anytime I have posted I was attacked on a never been proven ridiculous thread. I expect it to a degree. If I see an outlandish post I believe as a PAYING MEMBER I should be able to open up dialog. Correct? I have posted on other subject matter without brand loyalist BS. Also note topic General Diesel. I just don't get it man. . Some people just suffer from tunnel vision. Anyway is there any real proof about them scattered parts? What is the name of that dealer that has them busted cranks? As far as other forum I am a member of THE DIESEL PAGE for going on 3 years. Never and I mean never has a thread in 2 years ever had been Started on BS about Dodge. On occasion someone will drag a thread there we all comment about the bull c**p that it is about the Duramax. Some off the members from here have posted there with some great info with tons of respect right back at them. Nobody starts brand bashing. I have learned a lot already. But on days like this I am learning how to be ignorant. This is not meant to insult just a statement. So don't take offense... ... ..... Again you drive what best fits your needs. I do to.

I don't defend the truth just the BS. Why because some people cannot tell the difference or know the truth. Some people believe them out right BS threads. I don't think people should be misinformed about this product. After all I drive one very happily I might add. Also I find when people are wrong and lie they become very defensive... ..... NUFF SAID , TAKE OR LEAVE IT

MAC