govonor spring kit install

[PHaller]

governor spring kit install

I decided to install the GSK in Tulare this weekend. With a lot of help from Blair, Piers, and the RamRunner crew we finally got the thing all buttoned up. I like the higer RPM but I don't like the loss of power. I used to make 30+ pounds of boost... now, I'm lucky if I make 17. I drove home ,just barely, towing my behemoth trailer and started bright and early Monday to check why boost is low. I removed the air horn and checked the gasket and checked all boost clamps. All seems fine. I put rtv on the threads of the air horn bolts and put it all back togeather. Nothing has changed. The truck has a TST cam plate in it as well as a 16cm2 exhaust housing.

I have heard that sometimes the cam follower gets out of adjustment after a spring kit because the geometry in the pump changes. I think the pump is defueling now. Any Ideas?

-Paul R. Haller-

 

[cumminsgetme]

You might try checking the rocker travel to be sure that it is actually riding the plate. I have seen them hit below the plate and get hung, therefore never allowing the rocker to travel the cam plate. Take off the rear plate on the pump (it's wired in), then you can manually move the rocker forward to see where it is hitting on the plate. Where is your cam plate positioned? Have you checked fuel pressure?

 

[Jim Fulmer]

Hey paul

I have to agree with cummins... I did the arm adjustment and went the wrong way(Inablity to read correctly) and on the test drive I had no power, boost went from 28 to 22 and egt went from 1100(pre) to 800(no smoke), so I moved it up to the top of the nose checking where it hit as I adjusted it, power was back better than ever, made the throttle nice and touchy with quick responce.



Jim

 

[SlyBones]

Piers' Website

http://www.piersdiesel.com/LeverAdj.htm

 

[Strick-9]

One of the easiest things to check is your camplate. I've put mine in a little crooked and it wouldn't let the AFC 'finger' move all the way past the camplate profile.



Which TST plate do you have? You DID hook up the AFC line didn't you? I've forgotten that too on more occasions than I care to remember.



Let us know how it works out. We all learn together.



-Chris

 

[PHaller]

Well guys,I think you are right. I did not check the follower after the install and I think it is getting hung up underneath the cam plate. The plate is a #6 and was installed 3 years ago and the AFC is hooked up... I checked that already.

So, Wed. morning bright and early I'll pull the AFC housing and adjust the follower as mentioned in Piers website.

Thanks again all of you for the insight. I'll let you know how it goes,

-Paul R. Haller-

 

[HVAC]

VP44 Conversion

That's right, we have heard of 24v motors converted to use a "P" pump so it's high time to convert a 12v motor to use a VP44. I'm here to promote the mighty VP44 in opposition to that dastardly desert rattler Joe Donnelly.



Pros:



24 fueling levels at a touch.

Timing control.

Smaller, more compact. Better power to weight ratio.

Versateller capable.

Waterproof.

No woodruff keys

 

[BPINE]

Shame on you Nowel for even suggesting such a thing, Although I can't seem to get my CA challenged P Pump to match up to your VP. Let me know how it goes Paul.

 

[Joseph Donnelly]

aaarrrggghhh

Ohhhh, nooooo. He's back, that overvalved proponent HVAC



And on the correctly valved forum of all places



It's time for the proper proponents of the perfect p pump to proactively protest perverted palaver about our pump



>>That's right, we have heard of 24v motors converted to use a "P" pump so it's high time to convert a 12v motor to use a VP44. I'm here to promote the mighty VP44 in opposition to that dastardly desert rattler Joe Donnelly. <<



Sorry, Nowel, none of us were born LAST night. No sea of electrons for us correctly valved Rammers



>>Pros:



24 fueling levels at a touch. <<



at an adjustment of 0. 001" per time, we have 240 adjustments for each torque plate we can play with. Take that, overvalved one



>>Timing control. <<



WE are the ones without woodruff keys, not you. So, we can set timing wherever we want



>>Smaller, more compact. Better power to weight ratio. <<



Oh, man that's tough to argue. . . wait a minute, what are you doing talking about weight of all things we undervalved ones are more svelte (right, Blair?) so we can afford to use a heavier pump



P pumps also deliver more pressure , 17,000 vs 14,000 psi.

Maybe we can start another post war over this

 

[BPINE]

Joe you are out of controll, I must say it is nice to see.

 

[gitchesum]

Originally posted by Strick-9

One of the easiest things to check is your camplate. I've put mine in a little crooked and it wouldn't let the AFC 'finger' move all the way past the camplate profile.



Which TST plate do you have? You DID hook up the AFC line didn't you? I've forgotten that too on more occasions than I care to remember.



Let us know how it works out. We all learn together.



-Chris

Or in my case you forget to tighten the turbo hoses. Talk about high pucker factor when you hear the poof and no boost pressure. Worst part is that everyone in the campsite heard it and knew what I did.



Have you got that thing put back together yet? If so, has the ported head made big enough difference to justify doing it?

 

[PHaller]

Governor spring kit

You guys hit the nail on the head. The follower was hanging up under the plate. I readjusted the follower to ride just above the nose of the #6 TST plate. The truck has never run better! More power then I ever had before and all that RPM too. I really have to thank Piers too. After many calls, and much advice, the truck runs like a dream come true.

I have known Piers for about 4 years and in all that time he has always gone beyond, what I consider to be, the gold standard in customer service. He deserves my sincere thanks and this lists continued support.

-Paul R. Haller-

 

[Jim Fulmer]

Hey Paul

I think anyone who has ever delt with Piers can say he goes above and beyond costumer service and that can be a bad thing cause some will abuse it the he won't take calls from anyone, but we will take care of your own here and solve that problem, Looking forward to spending more money with him!



Jim

 

[Bill Kondolay]

I guess Paul i should be happy for you.

Does this mean you will no longer be buying my Ford?



The governor spring kit on a 12 valve engine is something i promote because it gives the guys towing a much broader rpm band in which to use their trucks.

It definately improves the life of the automatic transmissions by allowing you to select a lower gear without the engine de-fueling.



Let me re-phrase that , a properly installed governor spring kit really livens things up.

 

[MxerChris]

from pulling my camper I can see where a broader rpm range would help with a little higher rpm's, my question is would a govenor spring kit help with a stock plate or would have to change to a different plate to get any real advantage? my truck pulls good through certain conditions but it seems at cruising speeds 70-75 (pulling the camper) when I get to a big enough hill and start slowing the rpms get to low (below 1700) then I kick off the OD to save the transmission and the rpms get to high and of course there is no power, defueling I guess. That is my biggest complaint about this truck is I feel like it should torque right on over most hills with the camper, which with all our gear is probably around 7000# not that much weight. I'm afraid to spend to much right now, things are getting pretty bad at work (iron foundry) with talks of layoffs thanks for any input... ... ... ... ... ... .

 

[PHaller]

Im Piersified and lovin it!

If any of you guys are sitting on the fence, so to speak, regarding Piers Govenor Spring Kit... Don't be! Even with the problems I've had, I'm as happy as the proverbial fly on poo-poos.

like racingfanscjww, I was always looking for a way of getting over the grade at higher speed then 54 mph. That's where my truck would top out pulling the trailer in third with the 4:10 rears and an auto transmission. If I shifted to overdrive on a grade at 54 from third, I'd be on the back side of the torque curve and I couldn't accelerate. I was stuck going against the govenor in third at 54mph. NOT ANY MORE! ! Now, I can power up to about 65 and then shift to overdrive. Powersmokes move over, the mighty Piersified Cummins is is going to make you eat dust and cough smoke.

I swear that GSK and the readjusted lever make the truck perform better then I dreamed. I think the lever was always partially stuck under the plate and underfueling. The truck just woke up and now, with the GSK, it pulls HARD right to about 3450 RPM. I can light the tires at will now ,couldn't do that before, and the truck quite litterally jumps up and roars to life. More smoke and EGTs too but if I slide the plate back to help EGTs and slide the AFC housing back a bit to help with low end fueling and adjust the star wheel, she will be purrr-fect.

Sorry Bill, I guess I'm not looking so longingly at that Cranberry colored F*rd anymore. I was eyeballing it pretty closly at Tulare when Bill said ,"It's for sale" especially when my truck was DOA.

Piers and Blair saved my rear at Tulare too, because of a lost woodruff key in the shut off lever and the truck never turning off at 2 in the morning. That's yet another story.

So, get on that phone and call Piers at 1-604-853-9396 and order yours today so you too can "be all you want to be"!

-Paul R. Haller-