I'm swithing from DTT to ATS, need tests to compare

[Brandon]

cc... ... ... ... I am on to your game... ... you want to beat bills post count... ... .





thats what all this stirring is about you want your name as #1 poster... ..... well let me give you a lesson, illflem got his post count by frequently editing an existing post, at least thats what he printed in a thread some years ago.





so Chris just start editing your posts to get the #1 poster postion

this thread is all bunk... ... . you know what you are doing you just want to bicker with everyone. take a chill pill and go out and work on the 12'er as much as you post and life will be good



just relax knowing you got the right amount of valves

 

[KatDiesel]

Originally posted by Cummins Corvette

2. Did I need ANY repair? No. The stock transmission was still working fine other than the slippage from adding the plate.

Kinda a contradiction of yourself here? You state it was working fine, you upped the power it started slipping... . so how is there "nuthing" wrong with it? Obviously it was slipping, so regardless if it did it before the power change is a mute point.

 

[Briar Hopper]

Originally posted by John



As some of you have noticed, I haven't been on this BB much in the last several months or so... and for good reason...



the antagonistic BS is getting VERY tiring.

John, look to your own camp. There are few posters as antagonistic or posting with hostile intent, as DTT's own Bob Wagner. Not just my opinion. I believe the general TDR readership would be truly astonished at the number of people who have emailed me to tell me they are going with ATS , simply because of the attitudes presented online by a certain person who is NOT AFFILIATED WITH ANY COMPANY.

 

[TxDieselKid]

Originally posted by Brandon

take a chill pill and go out and work on the 12'er as much as you post and life will be good



just relax knowing you got the right amount of valves

LMFAO at both commits, the chill pill is what I was going to post after about the first page, but you beat me to it(first time i have read it).



Also lol at the right amount of valves, Brandon, get your glasses out and see that he's got a 12v.



Andrew



P. S. If you think I would belive you would give a fair comparison after these rants, you have got to be crazy as Bob Wagner!

 

[ob1kobi]

Wooooo Hooooo

A DTT mob?? Maybe so, but we are not the only ones out here. Each brand has a mob, or else there would be no ******* contests like this. It's called loyalty and support.

I am happy for anyone who bombs there truck, no matter what they use. I am a DTT supporter, and always will be. Yes I have blown mine up once, but it wasn't DTT's fault, it was a mistake by the installer, God forbid anybody ever make a mistake. Even though it was hurt, very hurt, it still made it almost 500 miles to the place where it was rebuilt again. If it wasn't for DTT I don't think that would have happened. DTT Mob? Yes, and proud of it.

 

[pwr2tow]

TKOBI,

Was that one of Bills trained installers or just a Mr. Joe Blow down the street.





DTT Supporters,

I remember when a certain company owner was trying to get a point accross... ... ... DTT supporters tried to say he was just passionate about his work... ... . thats why all his rambleings... ..... well maybe Chris and some of us are just as passionate about getting our point across... ... .....





John,

Since you put yourself in the position of being Bills spokes person (by calling him for information) could you answer my question I put to you about the difference in transmission parts.



Ron

 

[ob1kobi]

It was not a DTT "trained" installer, but he was approved by DTT. It doesn't make a difference either way though. Everyone makes a mistake, no matter how much you are trained.

 

[pwr2tow]

I was Just curious, as Bill had made a statement to the extent that he keeps a pretty tight grip on his installers.



I'am glad you agree that everyone makes mistakes, even though the most vocal DTT guys wouldn't admit that when I made the statement, and I might add that everything will break no matter who's product it is.



Ron

 

[Pit Bull]

I was joking before about buying the 6 speed I am a potential customer for a upgrade or new transmission in the future. I will be looking for dependablity and longivity in my future transmission upgrade. I plan on mild HP increase, say in the 50-70 Hp area. I would like to know which transmission ATS or DTT would be best for my needs based on ATS and DTT owner experence. Another important factor to me is cost, who gives me the most for the money. I know most of you are talking big HP and big pulling power. I'm talking daily driver with a little more HP and I want it to last a long time.

 

[Jetpilot]

You know its funny how there are a few folks spouting off about the "DTT mob" when the only ones bad mouthing any company in this thread are those opposed to DTT. This entire thread seems to be the "other mob" attacking DTT. I do not know any of you that are so anti DTT but I do know Bill and the folks at DTT and all I can say is personally I believe the bunch at DTT.



I am also skeptical of anyone saying they are spending alot of $$ and the only reason he is doing this is to help others decide which transmission they want and it is not for personal gain. If the issue of what was done to Chris' truck is in question maybe he should post the invoice for the labor and parts DTT did on his transmission.



To you few who are so anti DTT go and buy another brand but don't just sit back and bad mouth DTT. Personally I have DTT products in my truck and it produces over 750 rwhp. As of yet nothing has broken but I have listened to what the folks at DTT have recommended I do to keep things together. I am not saying that there are no other good products out there but what I am saying is personally I feel that DTT is the best and the customer support is second to none.



Doug

 

[D. Showan]

Why don't all the people making all these comments that have nothing to do with the question posed at the beginning of this thread just let it drop. Maybe the moderators should start a category for "*****ing only". Please gentlemen, lets raise the bar a notch or two.

 

[Cummins Corvette]

Here are the amounts from my us $$$ invioce. They gave me two: one in Canadian $$ and one in U. S. $$. Keep in mind that my transmission did not need a full rebuild.



parts: 2778. 79

labor: 342. 00

total us: 3120. 79



I am fairly stunned and depressed that someone like Bill would do this (not giving me what I asked for). Apparently I drove 2300 miles for nothing. I could have gotten my trans "repaired" within 20 miles from my house. The whole purpose in driving all that way was to get a whole transmission built by Bill himself. I watched him tear the whole thing down, inspect every part, and then put it together with all new parts with the exception of the low/reverse band. He said that the low/reverse bands from the aftermarket were junk, thus he used my old one. But, other than that one part, it was assembled with all new parts. I am still confused as to what would be different in a "whole" DTT trans. What a bummer, eh? :{ :{ :{ :{

 

[Cummins4Life]

 

[Stefan Kondolay]

Keep in mind that the parts total includes a TC Saver, Oil, Bypass Line, and Taxes, plus it also includes the labor for Bill to do the Repair and all the parts necessary. You said when you were here that you wanted fixed what needed to be. That is why we specifically put transmission repair. Our invoices usually say transmission rebuild if you get everything.



Chris you keep complaning about your temps, did you ever think maybe the guage is off. I've seen that a couple times. It just doesn't seem to me that you want anything resolved. Why didn't you say anything to my dad when you were shacking his hand in Vegas?? Face to face he was listening, it's funny how some people are behind a computer. Piers was there, Dad was there did you ever think maybe they could help you or again are you just having to much fun doing what you are doing. You don't seem like a guy that wants his truck fixed. How many members that were interested in fixing there trucks wouldn't have taken that opportunity to fix it. I am starting to think maybe you like the attention.

 

[dramer]

Non Support Of Negitive Posts

We have been reading this war on transmissions with just some thoughts in reply.

We do not want to promote any negative comments to flame any of the venders or competitors at ALL. This would be in regards to you, Chris Anderson. When using our transmission or torque converters in your opinions, please it would be in your best interest, to get our support first.

This would be with the use of our product first hand, which you have not done at this point. As for promoting our product with this thread, we don’t support this type of mud slinging at anyone. We thought this was made clear across the board already. Anyone has the right to discuss a product, and to have their own opinions, but with these responses from statements made by you we ask again, to stop. Chris we recommend that you get your transmission repaired by the company that performed the work. Due to your mud slinging against that company it does not leave many doors open for you since you have just also closed this one with ATS. I will remind you of your quote:



Chris Anderson

I am just as guilty (or more) of turning this into a war as anyone else. I apologize for my immaturity.



Bob WagnerRegistered: Aug 2000Location: WA USAPosts: 2864 Just a question, no flame intended Joel, Why won't Don or Clint post the response's here on the boards, instead of going through you? Thanks, Bob





Bob, let me just say, that if we want to comment, we will. Believe me, it is not because we do not want to. Time is a huge factor. Since you have not actually been to our location, you have no idea just what we put in to a days work. Joel knows first hand and understands our time constraints. This is our ‘Passion’. Do not assume differently. Do not assume we are going through or using our customers. If this is the case what would your position look like to others? I appreciate and welcome the fact our customers are so positive and want to help. What more could a company ask for? You seem to have no problem expressing your opinions and feelings about DTT. I am sure they appreciate your posts. When you constantly bring in the negative, you are the negative. Talking down to others just becomes very dull and primitive. Let’s evolve, shall we?

We want our products to speak for themselves. We appreciate the fact our customers want to help and share their experiences and opinions. Seriously…What more could we ask for?



********** OUR CUSTOMERS ROCK !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! **********



Don Ramer & Clint Cannon & Crew Of ATS

 

[TxDieselKid]

Very well put Don.

Due to your mud slinging against that company it does not leave many doors open for you since you have just also closed this one with ATS.

So we will not have a Bob Wagner of ATS?!?!?!



Andrew-just kidding ya Bob

 

[Heetseeker_1]

0uchie!

Due to your mud slinging against that company it does not leave many doors open for you since you have just also closed this one with ATS. ... ... ... .





Ouch! That had to hurt, CC.







:--) What will you do now?

 

[Bob Wagner]

Originally posted by TxDieselKid

Very well put Don.







So we will not have a Bob Wagner of ATS?!?!?!



Andrew-just kidding ya Bob

Andrew, go back and reread the post, why are you twisting words

 

[TxDieselKid]

Originally posted by Bob Wagner

Andrew, go back and reread the post, why are you twisting words

Bob, it was a joke, and only a joke in a thread that I thought needed a little comic relief. See in drama, after a very climatic point, it is usual for some comic relief. Though for I saw Don's post as a huge climatic point, so I thought some comic relief was needed. No offence ment, sorry.



Andrew

 

[NVR FNSH]

First, let me say I'm a manual transmission guy and have absolutely no connection to any of auto transmission people.



Second: Are there any industry standard tests to compare auto transmissions in the vehicle? Regardless, of what Chris says his impressions will be biased. The raw data may be unbiased but the interpretation of the raw data will be contaminated. Sorry, pal but YOU are not un-biased at this point.



Third: Damn, that post from ATS is gonna leave a mark.....



Brian