Competition May Madness HP numbers are coming in

[fest3er]

Could we dispense with the rhetoric?

This thread was about the HP numbers folks are putting down on the dyno. The only part transmissions play in this thread's topic is connecting the engine to the wheels. Discussing the relative merits of different transmissions belongs in a thread dedicated to that topic.

As to Eric's comment, I would be *real* surprised if anyone there interpreted it as anything but jest. *I* surely didn't. It would have been the same if Eric had said Ted should've gotten a Ford; after all, there was a PSD there running quite respectable times.

All the Dodge diesels at MIR ran very well. Most were respectably fast, at least two were *very* quick. The transmissions, whether automatic or manual, played a small part in the races. HP and driver attention played the largest part.

It's too bad. Eric's off-the-cuff quip should have remained at the track. And this thread should not have turned into another trans war; it should have remained focused on the relative HP numbers produced by a variety of trucks on the *same* dyno.

Neal

 

[TxDieselKid]

DD won't do the dyno anyways?

Originally posted by csutton7

HVAC layed down 600. 9 on Diesel only--he did not dyno with NOS or propane so there is no #'s for that--he also ran a 12. 8 on his first 1/4 mile--there should be more info coming

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My gawd man!!!



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Andrew

 

[TxDieselKid]

Originally posted by fest3er

Could we dispense with the rhetoric?



This thread was about the HP numbers folks are putting down on the dyno. The only part transmissions play in this thread's topic is connecting the engine to the wheels. Discussing the relative merits of different transmissions belongs in a thread dedicated to that topic.



As to Eric's comment, I would be *real* surprised if anyone there interpreted it as anything but jest. *I* surely didn't. It would have been the same if Eric had said Ted should've gotten a Ford; after all, there was a PSD there running quite respectable times.



All the Dodge diesels at MIR ran very well. Most were respectably fast, at least two were *very* quick. The transmissions, whether automatic or manual, played a small part in the races. HP and driver attention played the largest part.



It's too bad. Eric's off-the-cuff quip should have remained at the track. And this thread should not have turned into another trans war; it should have remained focused on the relative HP numbers produced by a variety of trucks on the *same* dyno.



Neal

Very well said fest! Just want the WHOLE post here in case someone missed it at the top.



Andrew

 

[DHRA]

Originally posted by Stefan Kondolay

his personal stuff in the way with his sponsors for the show. And with him admitting that he said it (that Ted should have gone with ATS) and saying his comment was to lighten the mood, come on. That's called kickin someone when they're down.

This is not true, what was said was I wonder if an ATS vs DTT thread will start from this? It was said to lighten the mood. I have had more parts break at drag races than most of the diesel racers. I know the pain and the way I deal with it is to joke.

You care about your customers you'd be here in Muncie for them. For all to know, as soon as I heard this from Stefan's mouth (Bill didn't have the courtesy to call) I called my TDR brother TKOBI and apologized. We are square, nothing was ever sour between us.

Ever since the introduction of ATS I have seen so many changes in the people on here. This site has turned into a soap opera!

 

[Briar Hopper]

Stefan, I'm not on a campaign to run your dad down. I'm not like that, and besides, he's done too much for the TDR membership for any reasonable person to tolerate seeing bricks chucked at him. I did take exception in the past, to a few things he said in the forums,(who hasn't? we all do take exception at one time or another with things others say) but it hasn't changed my feelings or respect towards him or you.

I'd like to see you and your dad at Muncie, we enjoyed having you last year, and we'll have fun again this year.

I apologize to the rest of the TDR for my contribution in getting this thread off topic... .

 

[Rammin On]

Off-topic ... . come on ... we all know threads NEVER get off the subject ...





Now ..... about those HP #'s ... ... .

 

[TxDieselKid]

I have a dream, that one day we will rise.....

Originally posted by Stack'd-n-Jack'd

This site has turned into a soap opera!

Thank you Eric for saying what I have been thinking for the past 2 months.



Andrew

 

[Straight6Jeff]

off subject

Hey, this past saturday, I threw my MagLite into a swamp, then one time, at band camp.....

 

[fest3er]

Re: off subject

Originally posted by Straight6Jeff
Hey, this past saturday, I threw my MagLite into a swamp, then one time, at band camp.....

You did? Really? What swamp? Where? I need a new flashlight... .

Fest3er

 

[Sled Puller]

Originally posted by Stefan Kondolay

Briar,



I realize that you are on a campaign to run my dad down,

That is 100% bull hocky, and anyone who knows Briar knows Briar does not work that way.



I have backed Bill K through all the censorship, but this is bad.



Kondolay clan, get the chip off your shoulders, and get back in the real ring, the track.



Muncie will not be the same without you guys.

 

[JMichelson]

Can't We All Just Get Along

Let’s all take a moment and cool our transmissions and turbo’s and savor the fact that no matter who’s transmission put it to the dyno, over 700 hp out of a 360 cubic inch diesel engine is impressive. Who cares if someone uses nitrous or propane. When you stop and think that some of these trucks are daily drivers and work trucks these number are amazing. If nothing else, all of us who are lucky enough to have anyone of the brands of aftermarket transmissions used on these trucks can feel a lot better about how we spent our money. To ATS, BD, and DTT keep raising the bar, and trying to break your transmissions. I’m glad you guys are paying for the parts. As a purchaser of your products I appreciate it. Now let’s just sit back and open a cold beer, (notice I didn’t mention a brand, don’t want to start an argument), and dream about big horsepower. Jeff

 

[LSMITH]

I too would like to point out that Briar Hopper is not the sort of guy to "run someone down". He is not like that and anyone that knows him even a little bit knows that. He is a stand up guy, and if you want to know what he thinks ask him. He won't pull any punches, just the honest truth.



Greg Boardman, you are not only out of line you are not within the guidelines for posting on this site. You may want to refresh yourself on the inflamatory part and the personal attack part.

 

[JR2]

To everyone who laid down the power... congrats!



JeffMic - could not have said it better. Sometimes it seems that these guys forget that we are all on the same team and we all have the same motor. I don't care how you get the power to the ground as long as its made with a Cummins.



It also appears to me that there are a few folks on this board who take all this way to seriously and obviously have something at stake that is not aparent to me.



On a final note. . way to go HVAC. . 600 HP on Diesel only and unless I am mistaken he still has a VP44 pump.

 

[SSeifert]

I'm with JeffMic... hp is hp... how you get there is on you. Just have fun.

 

[csutton7]

Yep HVAC'S PUMP is still the ol VP44--very frightening when you think about the # he may obtain when he hops ups his NOS system---can't wait--chris

 

[JR2]

I don't care for Drugs, but 600 HP on #2 would work for me. I wonder what kind of box you have to have for that... . heheeh



I guess I need twins and an o-ringed head...

 

[Mark_Kendrick]

The transmission didn't have anything to do with the HP #'s.



Don Ramers truck runs near 70psi of boost on the street.



his 47xhp was at 30psi of boost while that litlle 24v blew smoke to 3850rpm. . a little something to think about.



I had a 450hp truck and dramer's rig would spank it like a red headed, hair-lippped step child!!! homey spins the tires in the rims. I sat in the truck while he stomped it in 1st locked all the way through OD AND BACK!!! very impressive.



I rode in Craig Monroe's 511hp 12v all weekend(proven at MM) and it ain't got a thing on dramers wicked little beast. Craig did whip up on a Ferarri 348 in knarley fashion:-laf and we had a blast at the mud bogs.



Later,

Mark

 

[Jetpilot]

Mark,





I am a little confused by your post. You say Don's Ram would blow the doors off of a truck that dynoed a higher HP... . I am not really sure where you are coming from with this. I am quite sure that any truck that dynoed 477 would not compete with the trucks running over 700 HP! Don's truck at 477 is no slouch but is not in the league of the other high HP players there at MM.



This is not a bash on ATS or a praise for anyone else just the way it is.



Doug

 

[Mark_Kendrick]

What I'm saying is that it was not loaded properly. It is way over 500hp. Twins and autos are funny animals to dyno with. I have it easy w/my ETH. I just lug it from 1000-1100 on up to the limiter and I have only one turbo to spin up.



I'd be suprised if it wasn't between 550-600hp but I'll wait for a better dyno run to make that determination.



It's unfortunate that they(ATS) didn't get a chance to race. It would've been a good show. It was just bad timing for them.

 

[Jetpilot]

Mark,



I have to disagree with you here. All the trucks ran on the same dyno and the numbers were posted. Some guys had twins with auto's that made over 700 HP. I like Don and those guys but their dyno numbers are what they are. Everyone had the same playing field here. There are several different threads that show this discrepancy. The fact is several of the high HP trucks are autos and posted high numbers.



Doug