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I need alignment specs, and the search feature isn't working!!



I saw them awhile back. My tires have worn incredibly in the last 300 miles. Atleast 1/8th" on the outside only.



If anybody has any links or SOMETHING with the "proper" specs for alignment I need them soon. I will be going 600 miles tomorow, and don't want the wear.



Thanks guys,

Merrick Cummings Jr
 
Here you go, I received this from fossy bear.







toe in 1/64

> camber left 1/8+ right 1/8-

> caster left 3 1/2+ right 3 1/4+





Frank
 
Hey about some specs for 2-wheel drives? My first set of tires wore nice and even but when I got the new BFGs and they did a front end alignment, they are wearing on the outside and the tread blocks are uneven heights. When I was looking at my copy of the work order the other day it said "Ram 1500" on it :eek:



Vaughn
 
In a previous posting written by ???? (don't remember), they were complaining about a shimmy in their Ram 4x4 after striking bumps in the road.

I suggested that the front end alignment has either too little or too much caster, thus causing a caster shimmy. He did not like my response and changed his concern from a "shimmy" to a "bounce" (big difference), and insisted it was the shocks. Maybe it is, I haven't driven it. He also said the alignment "checked out".



Here's the problem:

Alignment programs (and service manuals I believe), give a wide acceptable range for front caster on the 4x4 Rams. I believe the range is 2 degrees to 5 degrees (if that's not correct, it's pretty close). The problem occurs when the alignment tech (independent or dealer) tells you that the measurements "checked out fine", just because they were in this broad range of acceptance. Caster readings that fall on either end of the scale are subject to caster shimmy, even though they are "acceptable". I had to align some 30 trucks and attend a 9 hour "Dodge Ram Chassis Dynamics Diagnostics" training session (fancy name, ehh?), before finding out that 3 degrees to 4 degrees is the optimal caster setting for 4x4 Rams that eliminates caster shimmy.

Below I will post what specifications I set Ram trucks to. First I want to give a little more info on correct Ram alignments so you can see if you had a job well done, The eccentrics on the lower control arms ARE NOT for individual wheel caster adjustments (even though our alignment machine says they are). The eccentric sleeves in the upper ball joints are for adjusting individual camber and total cross caster (difference in caster between two front wheels). This is why replacement eccentrics are positionable in eight different ways.

Once camber and cross caster are attained with the eccentrics, the lower control arm eccentrics are

then used to swing the caster readings into specifications. The two eccentrics must be swung in the SAME direction in EQUAL amounts. If they are not, it will create a setback condition (one front wheel further forward than the other).

FYI - Comparing between the two front wheels, caster will cause a pull to the smaller value and camber will cause a pull to the larger value. A truck set up with caster pulling in one direction and camber pulling in the other direction, can lead to a wandering truck; even though it is "in specifications"!!!!!!

If the eccentrics on the lower control arms of your truck are not pointing the same direction, the alignment was done incorrectly and the axle was "twisted" or "forced" into position to attain theacceptable values (seen them from the factory this way, go figure).

A correct alignment will set the truck up with a slight negative cross caster (truck has slight pull to left) to compensate for right hand road crown. Camber will be equal side to side slightly on the negative side. This will help maintain acceptable camber when hauling heavy loads, as the truck tends to lift in the front when towing. Camber will then fall slightly positive when towing.

Just because the alignment shop says "it's in specifications", that does not mean it is set up for proper performance and handling!!!!!!!!! Specifications (my personal settings for every Ram I align): all specs below are in degrees.





Left Wheel Right Wheel

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Caster 3. 2 3. 5

Cross Caster -. 3



Camber -. 10 -. 10

Cross Camber 0. 0



Toe - standard specs, (maybe a little out if you tow a lot, they will pull in as the front end lifts up).



Brent

ASE Certified

Gold Certified Chrysler tech
 
Being a absolute 'greenpea' about most things truckmotive I kept taking my 1995 3500 4x4 back to the stealers for a number of years regarding poor steering.

Finally found out that the stealer did not have a big enough alignment setup to handle the big trucks so he sub'd it out to someone else. Never showed on any invoice either!:mad:





As soon as warranty was over, yipeee!

I took to National Spring here in the San Diego area, they found that whilst it may have met the +/- of factory specs it was just too far off for them. Adjusted steering box, installed Lukes Link, Bilstien shocks, Borgenson Intermediate Steering Shaft and, did alignment.



Bingo, no more shimmy,no more clunk, just a nice straight ride.



I suppose I could go back and ask Mike what the numbers are but I am sure any competent outside shop could do it too.
 
On my y2k there is no camber adjustment.



I have used Brent's #'s since 10 k miles and have had good tire wear and great steering and handling. Now have 60k and would not set to any thing else



NOTE truck will pull to side with short caster

caster should be short on the left not the right. Short caster on the right will cause a pull to the right, short on the left the steering wheel will be straight while in right lane and slight pull left while in left lane.



Good luck
 
I'm getting wear on the outside edge of both my front tires. It does not wander. Will this alignment spec correct that wear problem and still keep me going straight?
 
I had mine aligned to these specs. My particular truck pulls to the right AND it's wearing only the outside of the right tire. This is due to the ball joints going bad on the right side, according to 3 different places. Dodge is going to replace them with eccentric ones (?) with a 2K model part number. Evidently they've seen this before and the ball joints are interchangeable, but they are inverted as well. What?



Uh, yeah, that's what I said. At any rate, it's getting done either this coming week or the next, so I'll update anyone who's interested with the specifics.



Duane
 
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