New 2019 or 2020

[Randomrunner12]

Hey yall,

Been having some g56 issues lately and starting to look at a new 2019 or 2020 model 2500. How are y'all liking them? I don't have a need for the 3500 but would it be worth getting for the Aisin?

I really don't even have a huge need for a 2500 and have been looking at the eco diesel as well.

 

[Rob S]

I really have been enjoying my 2019 2500, Runs great an no issues, Ive got about 15,000 miles on it so far. All the power I need for sure.

 

[Signal73]

10k on mine, so far so good. I use it for pulling my camper and associated sightseeing while away on camping trips.

 

[nukegm]

Hey yall,

Been having some g56 issues lately and starting to look at a new 2019 or 2020 model 2500. How are y'all liking them? I don't have a need for the 3500 but would it be worth getting for the Aisin?

I really don't even have a huge need for a 2500 and have been looking at the eco diesel as well.

comrade - i too have a unicorn ( g56 ) 2500. what issues are you having? i bought the manual truck to avoid transmission problems, then ironically it was at dealer at 6000 miles for 31 days for clutch issues. go figure. just curious. cheers!

 

[Randomrunner12]

Well earlier this month I had a throw out bearing crap out after only 40k miles when it was installed with my SDD3250GK clutch. Now when the truck is warm there is a creak pop that can be heard when the truck is off and you are pushing the clutch in or out. Sounds like the shop that did the throw out replacement didn't re grease the rod end on the slave cylinder but its very random when it happens. No issues shifting or driving the truck with it happening so its not a major concern.

I also only owe 8k on the truck so I am between trading in and up with some of the amazing deals going right now or keeping and eventually auto swapping. Options lol.

 

[R.Taylor]

There's gotta be some smoking deals on any 19's left out there... Find a 2500 Limited Low-Output 4x4 and enjoy. If your coming from a leaf sprung rear end to a coil and linkage rear end you may find it a little different feeling/handling wise. I'm loving my 19' 3500... Didn't go HO/Aisin, Rear Air as I'm never going tow anything heavier than 16k and not that often. 12k miles so far and very pleased. If your lucky perhaps you'll find one that DOES NOT have the RamBox bed, They are having issues where the top lid warps (cause it's painted plastic cap glued onto a plastic base)... My parts guy at the dealership said that's what they are seeing the most of on the 19' on up trucks.

 

[AEdelheit]

If I was to buy a 14+ truck it would be a 3500 as I feel the coils spring rear is too problematic, yes I know there are many who have not had issues but the design is terrible. Prone to axle wrap and the coils coils are so far inboard that they get very unstable with too much weight in the bed.

 

[dieselshadow]

Axle wrap on a 5 link suspension? I think you may have that confused with traditional leaf spring suspension as they are known for axle wrap. A 5 link is very solid and planted in comparison.

 

[AH64ID]

Axle wrap on a 5 link suspension? I think you may have that confused with traditional leaf spring suspension as they are known for axle wrap. A 5 link is very solid and planted in comparison.

There are enough reports of the Ram 2500 coil link suspension having axle wrap. The geometry isn't as good as it could be, and it causes issues under the correct circumstances.

I used to think people confused it for something else, but I'm not convinced anymore.

 

[Tuesdak]

IMO fix your truck. It sometimes takes a try or two to get a clutch done properly and replace every single moving part that can wear. Forks, pivot studs, hydraulics...

Aisin does have a few refinements needed as me and some others have noted, but, with the history of Cummins tearing up clutches and transmissions it's best to start with the strongest transmission you can get behind it. The TSB's for updated flashes do help a lot for the Aisin's. Coming from a 2003 manual the HO and Aisin shift better and faster: when you stomp the go pedal at 60MPH there is less delay than the Chrysler transmission to be in the proper gear and GET MOVING NOW. It's is still a ways from my 2003 that you let the clutch out and are moving, immediately, without question. Due to the can't get the damn memo to move NOW I would not have purchased a new RAM until it was suggested I drive the HO Aisin combo. Drive both and stomp both at a 60 MPH cruise to see what I am feeling. Get moving, aka throttle moved now put power on, from a stop can use work on both. I test drove both the 18's and 19's without any updates.

The 3500's do not have the TPMS nightmare for running the rear tires at the correct low PSI unloaded.

You got a lot of reading on the GM beancounter touch on the zero or hero ECO Diesel. The emissions flashes that came out for some of them turn them into a real dog. FCA doesn't care now that the EPA is off their back. You would be better off with a real GM diesel "V8 Duramax" that doesn't use the CP4. Otherwise get a gasoline engine in a 1/2 ton. MPG on gasoline has come a long way and TCO with the extra TLC the diesel needs gets close.

 

[Randomrunner12]

Y'all are awesome with all the updates and advice on what to do. I'm still reading and looking around at options.

 

[AEdelheit]

Axle wrap on a 5 link suspension? I think you may have that confused with traditional leaf spring suspension as they are known for axle wrap. A 5 link is very solid and planted in comparison.

Not confused at all, take a close look at the geometry , specifically the placement of the lower arm on the axle housing paired with the huge soft bushings on the arms, and you will see why its such a poor design and prone to axle wrap/ wheel hop. Oddly enough the 1500 has a very good 5 link design but they threw that all out the window with the 2500s.

 

[R.Taylor]

Y'all are awesome with all the updates and advice on what to do. I'm still reading and looking around at options.

Get MaxCare 8/125 for piece of mind... Get pricing online from www.chryslerwarrantydirect.com and then when you go pull the trigger on the new rig see if they'll match the price... If so, Cool.... If not.... Then buy it online from them.

 

[Cummins12V98]

Mine is 7/100 no deductible. I am at 75k with 1.5 years left.

 

[dieselshadow]

There are enough reports of the Ram 2500 coil link suspension having axle wrap. The geometry isn't as good as it could be, and it causes issues under the correct circumstances.

I used to think people confused it for something else, but I'm not convinced anymore.

I guess coming from a second gen 2500 that I couldn’t keep spring retaining straps on the spring for more than a week before busting and comparing to a 2017 5 link 2500, the difference was night and day. The newer 2500 was FAR superior in handling and exhibited zero axle wrap at all, even towing. The 95 would hop empty, loaded, didn’t matter. And I had it loaded with a huge slide in camper at times.

My current 3500 dually shows some axle wrap, but not much in comparison. It isn’t bad enough to really notice unless you’re looking for it.

I guess it’s all in your point of view.

 

[AH64ID]

I guess coming from a second gen 2500 that I couldn’t keep spring retaining straps on the spring for more than a week before busting and comparing to a 2017 5 link 2500, the difference was night and day. The newer 2500 was FAR superior in handling and exhibited zero axle wrap at all, even towing. The 95 would hop empty, loaded, didn’t matter. And I had it loaded with a huge slide in camper at times.

My current 3500 dually shows some axle wrap, but not much in comparison. It isn’t bad enough to really notice unless you’re looking for it.

I guess it’s all in your point of view.

I don’t think they are 2nd gen bad, just not as good as a 5 link should be.

 

[Randomrunner12]

Looking at 2500 longbeds.

 

[Cummins12V98]

Looking at 2500 longbeds.

Good call on the long bed! I would go 3500/AISIN/Rear Air.

 

[Randomrunner12]

Don't need a 3500, I barely tow 10k lbs a year. The mileage alone in the city day to day would kill me.

As much as I want a long bed dually lol

 

[nukegm]

x2 on longbed. 8 feet 1 inch is very useful, but im biased. im a carpenter.