It is so nice to see that so many of you "think" and “feel” a lot when it comes to aftermarket performance parts and are able to share your "feelings" about the parts and their makers.
After having been a part of this website since November, it is sad to see that many of you like to share your "feelings" or "thoughts", but there is little to no hard evidence when it comes to performance output of aftermarket parts you either love or hate. Thoughts and feelings are irrelevant when is comes to performance, which has to be proven with cold hard numbers, either some hard test data from dynos, or in the case of this intake manifold, flow-bench data.
KSmid heard that the “… Banks design doesn't gain any hp. Anyone have this new one yet. Any hp gain or hard info. on this”. At least ToolManTimTaylor offered some insight into this question, but there is no proof to his statement. Flow bench data, dyno results or driving performance data would be a really good thing here to prove your point!
Vaughn MacKenzie’s contribution is truly valuable: “My guess just looking at the ATS intake is it's a better design than the Banks. It doesn't flare open to a large cross section then cone down again to enter the grids spacer like the Banks does. To me Bank's design would induce turbulence. There have been mixed results with the Banks intake, some have lost HP with it. ” Guessing is always a really good thing when it comes to engineering issues. What proof do you have that the Banks design “would” induce turbulence? Are you an expert in fluid dynamics with an engineering degree to back it up? Or do you have test results to back up your thought? What about those mixed results you are talking about. Where are these results coming from? What data do you have to prove your point?
Thank you to RAndrae for asking the important question of proving your point. Darkhorse, thank you for providing valuable feedback and keeping feelings and thoughts to a minimum.
A “thank you” to the few of you who back up your statements with hard data and keeping your feelings to a minimum. Proving your point for or against aftermarket performance products is only accomplished with hard data from either dynos, flow benches, or even fuel consumption/driving logs. This is where the rubber meets the road. This is the only way credibility is earned or lost when it comes to performance or engineering related issues.
Attention: TDR Forum Junkies 
. The OEM bolt for the dip stick wouldn't thread in so had to dick with that for about 45 minutes. Last but not least the freaken thing doesn’t line up with the pipe coming out of the intercooler. I mean IT'S WAY OFF! What a POS this thing is. I'm very surprised at ATS for putting out something so poorly designed.
