Newbee's educaton - exhaust brakes

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Can someone me the very short course on exhause brakes? US Gear vs Jacobs vs BD.
Thanks

 

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First of all eliminate the US GEAR. Then you have three good brakes to choose from. First the BD is has the most retarding hp and cost the most and has the shortest warranty. The Jacobs is approved by cummins and has the least rhp but a good warranty of 5/100,000. The Pac-Brake which is what I have has about the same rhp as the BD and the warranty and price of a Jacobs. They are all good brakes and everyone has their favorite. I like the Pac because it has a long warranty and good rhp. It was simple to put on, there was no drilling to do and the kit came with everything you need. It took me about 1 1/2 hours to put on and it works great. Just my opinion.

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99, 4x4, slt, 3500,5spd,
3. 54 gears, black,hoswel bale bed, blue box, Pac-
Brake, 5in. sraightpipe, K&N, silencer ring removed, 5 star aluminum wheels, brushguard,blackouts, eclipse stereo, sound stream 10,matrix blue headlight bulbs, blazer blue neon fog lights, KC Daylighters, 29ltd Cobra CB, Dodge splash guards, Lund Cold Fronts

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I agree with Phil, am in the process of putting a Pac Brake on the '01. I also had one on my '96 and was extremely satisified and only had the 30# valve springs.
Larry

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Ram Rod
'01 3500 white quad cab sport 4x4 ETH DEE SLT+ 4:10s posi Pac brake tow/camper pkg.
35' holiday rambler 5th wheel

 

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I went with the BD brake on mine. My reasoning is that it has more rhp down low in the rev's than the others. It has a variable valve so that it can provide optimum braking over a wider rpm range than the others. The Pac brake (which would have been my other choice) is an all or nothing brake. I also like the throttle switch on the BD brake (Pac uses the same method I think) as opposed to the Jacobs because I was able to adjust it such that I can move the throttle slightly and have it off of the brake but still at idle. I don't think that's possible with the Jacobs as it's getting it's throttle position through the ECM. Also the vacuum cylinder on the BD is WAY bigger than the others.

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-Steve St. Laurent - President of the Great Lakes TDR, Chapter Forums Moderator
'98 Quad Cab Long Bed (CMNSPWR), 4x4, ISB, 5sp, 4. 10 LSD, Prime-loc remote fuel filter, boost & pyro gauges, TST Powermax, muffler eliminator, 5" chrome tip, BD Exhaust Brake, Isspro turbo temp monitor, Permatech spray in liner, Grizzly stainless nerf bars, Stull SS grill & bumper inserts, Front Draw-Tite receiver, BFG 285/75R16 AT KO's

 

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Steve

I was going to go with the BD but I couldn't justify the price and warranty that pac has. The BD is probably the strongest brake and I like the adjustment that it has but with the warranty behind the Pac it was easy for me. The BD was deffinently my second choice over the e-brake. Just my opinoin.

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99, 4x4, slt, 3500,5spd,
3. 54 gears, black,hoswel bale bed, blue box, Pac-
Brake, 5in. sraightpipe, K&N, silencer ring removed, 5 star aluminum wheels, brushguard,blackouts, eclipse stereo, sound stream 10,matrix blue headlight bulbs, blazer blue neon fog lights, KC Daylighters, 29ltd Cobra CB, Dodge splash guards, Lund Cold Fronts

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"Use to be Strokin' now I'm Cummin'

 

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Just a note on the E-Brake (Jacobs), as long as u r "fueling" the eng, the brake is not "connected" by the ECM. Slight Go Pedal pressure shuts it off. When you lift the forest stomper off the pedal it take 2-3 seconds to "kick in" and on the previous post (e-brake) I had one morn where it didnt kick in when I started the truck. Had to "tap" the pedal to get it ON. Evidently the cable/pedal had just enuff pressure from the shutdown to give the eng fuel and keep the ECM from connecting the brake.
I went with the Jcobs due to warranty issues and felt the extra rhp was not needed as the eng does have some rhp by itself. Ican almost stop the truck COMPLETELY by downshifting and using 1st gear.

\\BF//

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"Drifty" y2k SLT L. E. 2500QC/SWB/5sp/3. 54LSD/bed spray/camper/tow/fogs as DRL's/3rd Brake flasher/hr mtr/altr isolator/Mag-Hytec/Ball valve oil drain/CB/25. 5k hitch/NO muffler&resonator(STOLEN?)-3" replacement w/chrome tip/Nerf bars/E-Brake/etc.

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I agree with Steve. In addition, I would like to point out that the BD exhaust brake is by far the best choice for us "auto. " guys, as we can use all the help we can get! With the use of either the BD TorqLoc or AutoLoc computer or a "mystery switch", you really only have good retarding hp. while the TCC is locked in O/D or third. The superior retarding hp. figures exhibited by the BD brake allow us "auto. " guys enough retarding hp. to properly brake our loads without having to use second gear (no TCC lock up = HIGH transmission temperatures) in most circumstances. The addition of (at least) BD's PressureLoc would also be a good idea. The PressureLoc will apply an additional 20-30 psi. of pressure to keep the TCC from slipping.

Another point of interest: The BD exhaust brake poses almost NO exhaust restriction whereas, the others pose at least some, one most notably, more than the others.

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'98. 5 2500 QC 4x4, (BLACK) SLT Sport, ISB, LWB, 3. 54 LSD, A/T, Glasstite Vision II canopy, Line-X bed liner, 285/75R16 BFG A/Ts on 16x8 M/T Challengers, Warn 4X Boards, Mopar fender flares, front and rear NW Custom stainless steel/rubber mud flaps, Mag-Hytec diff. cover and trans. pan, Edelbrock IAS shocks, Mopar tow hooks, Jordan Research Ultima 2020 trailer brake controller, VDO Vision gauges, PIAA Dual Sport 900 auxiliary lights and Super White bulbs, BD exhaust brake and TorqLoc, Prime-Loc fuel filter relocation kit, Bosch 275 hp. injectors, VA CPC, DD Boost Module, Banks Stinger wastegate actuator, "Scotty Air System", BLACK '00 valve cover, Hitco/Geno's exhaust blanket, Femco/Geno's EZ Drain oil pan plug, Banks Stinger 4" dia. stainless steel exhaust system, BD ______ TC and valve body, BD modified transmission front pump and PressureLoc, plus many other trick modifications

Coming Atractions: '00 Sport headlights and '00 Sport grille (I'll squeeze it in somehow)

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[This message has been edited by John (edited 04-11-2000). ]

[This message has been edited by John (edited 04-11-2000). ]