Power Edge Fueling Module

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Question: anyone see this or am I nuts??

When 'playing' with my EDGE, I think I have seen at least three times the following:

Around 2K on the tach, while still feeling the acceleration and seeing the speed increase, I see the tach freeze for a few moments.

I don't feel any stumble, just find the tach reading to be a bit odd.

Anyone else see this or have any ideas what I might be seeing????

Thx




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I found out something this afternoon. Storm Troopers love to pull these trucks of ours over too!

I was demonstrating the Edge to a coworker and didn't see the Trooper behind a semi coming around the curve in front of me. I stepped on the brakes but it was too late. He asked me if I realized how fast I was going. I told him "probably about 60". He said I was way off. He said that he wasn't able to get a lock on me till after the front of my truck took a bow from the brakes. So he said it was my lucky day that he only got 70mph on his radar.

You call that lucky? I'll get the speedo calibrated since I have the larger tires. That should get me out of it. Damn! First ticket since 1986. I guess, I gotta pay if I wanna play!

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'99 2500HD Quad Cab 4x4,Intense Blue Pearlcoat,fully loaded w/Agate leather interior,5-speed,4. 10 limited slip,Skyjacker Leveling kit,Heckethorn Nitro 9000 shocks w/dual end to end steering stabilizers,35x12. 50x16. 5 BFG/AT KO's on 9. 75x16. 5 Eagle 589 Aluminum Wheels,9004 Cool Blue's,Silencer Ring removed,Fog Lights relay pulled,No muffler,No resonator,4" straight pipe,Northwest Customs Stainless Steel Rocker Panels,Steel Horse Stainless Steel Nerf Bars,POWEREDGE W/SUPER-DYNA-WHOPPIN' HOT#3 PROGRAM

 

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Arcticat & others... you don't have to hit the button again to turn it on if you hold the button in for a second. In other words, you're leting the button go too soon. For example. . say you want setting #3. You hold the button till you see 3 flashes NOW,don't let go just yet!! Hold it in for a second and your good to go! Works that way for every setting. . try it! #ad

 

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WOWZY , welcome to the club , i have already been down that road ... total for one session with a storm trooper from VT. was $207. 50 #ad
i figured when he walked up and heard the engine that he would have second guessed the speed ... NOT!!!! #ad
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I put in the new Hot Edge Friday. Since then I have had 4 episodes of engine stumble. One episode was when it was idling.

I put the old Hot Edge back in this morning, since I only had it make my engine stumble once in the week that it was installed. I'm sending back the new one since it was way worse.
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'99 2500HD Quad Cab 4x4,Intense Blue Pearlcoat,fully loaded w/Agate leather interior,5-speed,4. 10 limited slip,Skyjacker Leveling kit,Heckethorn Nitro 9000 shocks w/dual end to end steering stabilizers,35x12. 50x16. 5 BFG/AT KO's on 9. 75x16. 5 Eagle 589 Aluminum Wheels,9004 Cool Blue's,Silencer Ring removed,Fog Lights relay pulled,No muffler,No resonator,4" straight pipe,Northwest Customs Stainless Steel Rocker Panels,Steel Horse Stainless Steel Nerf Bars,POWEREDGE W/SUPER-DYNA-WHOPPIN' HOT#3 PROGRAM

 

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WOWZY,

Bummer on the citation #ad
Have you given any thought to a good quality radar detector? The bad thing is these ram trucks have a HUGE front profile and the K/Ka radar probably gets a GREAT signal to lock onto.
You haven't had really good luck with your PE yet have you? I'm following your experiences for a guide to what I'm going to do to mine IF I CAN EVER ORDER IT. #ad
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Mick2500

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2001 2500 ETH/DEE, QuadCab, 4X4, SB, LSD, 3. 54, SLT+, Sport, Intense Blue PC/Agate, Tow Package, Camper Package, 'DC' Bed Cover, Sliding rear window. Ordered 5/01/00... Cancelled 5/30/00... re-ordered 6/02/00... Cancelled again by DC 6/05/00
Gauges (EGT/Boost) and A-Pillar mount Here, 4" Exhaust, Here.

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My truck stumbled 3 times going to the lake and coming back. The edge was off all 3 times. Does the boost module characteristic work even if it is off. I unplugged my DD boost module and just running the Edge. Any answers?

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2001 6-speed 4*4 Quad dually. Diesel Dynamic Injectors, 14cm housing 4in exhaust. Jacobs brake.

 

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My truck stumbled 3 times going to the lake and coming back. The edge was off all 3 times. Does the boost module characteristic work even if it is off. I unplugged my DD boost module and just running the Edge. Any answers?

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2001 6-speed 4*4 Quad dually. Diesel Dynamic Injectors, 14cm housing 4in exhaust. Jacobs brake.

 

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Does anyone know what is causing these stumbles? Is it fuel starvation?

 

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junebug , where you running the edge with the DD boost module ? that would be redundant and defeat the programming of the edge ,

i have had it stumble one more time , never while idling , don't know what causes this , i would think its a glitch and not fuel starvation . HVAC have you had a stumble at all ? i'm going to call Brett tomorrow and see if there is a way of isolating the problem so it can be found and fixed quickly . it may be time to put a hold on future orders till this is isolated .

a couple of bored banks employees must be giggling and peeing their pants over this one ... #ad

 

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Brett felt confident he had the stumble worked out last week. Evidently the cause is still at large. I'll call tomorrow to see if he can share anything. It sounds like it is a blip in the fuel mapping or some signal is not available for a microsecond and the fueling starts toward idle then responds. Whatever it is I am sure Brett and Taylor will figure it out, they are not sitting on their hands #ad

 

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I have had mine stumble once. My wife said "What was that?" Have not been able to duplicate it. I run in the #1 level.

Update on performance of Power Edge;

The time test were in 4th gear and from 1500 to 3000 rpm's and 3 runs at each level. One thing I need to mention is that my stock truck before the Power Edge ran 12. 5 to 13. 5 seconds. Must also admit I did have some very slight variations in road.

PE off - 13. 20 to 14. 20

PE in #1 - 10. 80 to 11. 30

PE in #2 - 9. 77 to 10. 47

PE in #3 - 9. 02 to 9. 67

My question is why with the PE off would it be slower than when the truck was without the PE? Specially since the boost module is supposed to work when the PE is off?

Anybody have any thoughts?

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99 Quad Cab, White, SLT, 4x4, 5-sp, 3:54's, LSD, Loaded except cab lights and leather, Raven cap (cab high), Rhino liner, Stainless Nerf Bars, Stainless Rocker Panels, Tow package, Pro-flap mud flaps (Stainless Cummins "C" coming to add to rear flaps), Power Edge (my first BOMB), Valentine One, Amsoil throughout, CB Radio.

Things to come;

Hadley Bully Air Horns, 285/75R16 Cooper A/T's, SPA Pyro and Boost gauge, 4" exhaust system, DDIII's, Psychotty Air Filter.

NRA Life Member! (Need to protect our rights and FREEDOM!!)

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Hey WOWZY,

You might want to look into a "VALENTINE ONE"
IMHO it is the best radar detector on the market. It won't guarantee the STORM TROOPERS from stopping you any more, but it has saved me hundreds in alerting me in advance that there is radar in the area (and in some cases miles away!). It shows you if the radar is in front, behind or on the side of you. GREAT DETECTOR!!

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99 Quad Cab, White, SLT, 4x4, 5-sp, 3:54's, LSD, Loaded except cab lights and leather, Raven cap (cab high), Rhino liner, Stainless Nerf Bars, Stainless Rocker Panels, Tow package, Pro-flap mud flaps (Stainless Cummins "C" coming to add to rear flaps), Power Edge (my first BOMB), Valentine One, Amsoil throughout, CB Radio.

Things to come;

Hadley Bully Air Horns, 285/75R16 Cooper A/T's, SPA Pyro and Boost gauge, 4" exhaust system, DDIII's, Psychotty Air Filter.

NRA Life Member! (Need to protect our rights and FREEDOM!!)

 

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Mopar,

Thanx for bringing the toys up. The VA worked great towing the bikes!!

Put the Edge on today. Only pain was the "fuse adapter" doesn't like to go into place. Other than that the install was a breeze.

Observations so far:

The VA feels stronger off the bottom.
Level 2 feels as strong as VA.
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0-60 times:
Stock 14s
VA 11s
PE lvl 1 12s
PE lvl 2 11s


These are prelim results. Everything appears to be connected correctly. My truck is an '01 and doesn't have any type of wastegate modification. I don't know the amount of boost, don't have gauges yet. I am guessing since I don't have a "boost elbow" device, I am still limited @ 20psi. This is probably limiting the power output.

I have had NO stumbles so far(100 miles). I did not try BOTH VA and PE combined... I'll leave that to you MMuscle.

HVAC... . What can be done about the '01 wastegate assembly?? Am I on track about the power loss??

Dave

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DavidO, we hope to work out a fix on Mike Crossley's truck soon. The ETH is no problem with the standard elbow.

I think you would benefit with more boost. Keeps the heat down too.

 

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I do not run the dd boost module and the Edge. Will the edge work like the boost module if it is off? Has anyone seen a stumble with it off.
Can I do anything to cut down smoke with DD II injectors and boost module only.

I really likede the truck with the VA and boost module only.

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2001 6-speed 4*4 Quad dually. Diesel Dynamic Injectors, 14cm housing 4in exhaust. Jacobs brake.

 

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I just got back from Reidsville's big fireworks Extravaganza! #ad


I was talking to another potential TDR member and Poweredge customer(Welcome Russell "WildMan" Troxler) and he said that with his stock Y2K 3500,he has had some engine stumbles just like what we've been experiencing.

So now I'm just as confused as ever!

I have been burning the roads up since this morning and have had no stumbles with the old Hot Edge.
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'99 2500HD Quad Cab 4x4,Intense Blue Pearlcoat,fully loaded w/Agate leather interior,5-speed,4. 10 limited slip,Skyjacker Leveling kit,Heckethorn Nitro 9000 shocks w/dual end to end steering stabilizers,35x12. 50x16. 5 BFG/AT KO's on 9. 75x16. 5 Eagle 589 Aluminum Wheels,9004 Cool Blue's,Silencer Ring removed,Fog Lights relay pulled,No muffler,No resonator,4" straight pipe,Northwest Customs Stainless Steel Rocker Panels,Steel Horse Stainless Steel Nerf Bars,POWEREDGE W/SUPER-DYNA-WHOPPIN' HOT#3 PROGRAM

 

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UPDATE:

Put some highway miles on the Ram today. The PE definitely works well at speed.

Level 1 feels as strong/stronger than the VA box. Pulls hard and clean 70-90mph.

Level two pulls 80-100mph REAL QUICK, with no signs of tapering off.

Didn't try level 3, want to watch the EGT's at that speed/load.

A big two thumbs up to HVAC, MOPAR MUSCLE and the folks @ POWER EDGE!!

Can't wait till the wastegate actuator is figured out... .

Dave


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2001 2500 ISB,4X4,QC,SB,AUTO,3. 55's,BLACK,AGATE LEATHER,SLT,every option except heated leather/4whl anti

 

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I also have been following the stumbling problem reported with the PE and it sounds and acts exactly like the problem I had with my Y2K. It was addressed under TSB 18-24-99 and corrected. It was occurring with mine about once every tank of fuel. I post this just to let those interest/concerned know, that might not be aware of it, that a stumbling problem has occurred with our rigs in the not to distant past. Whether this is PE caused or DC/Cummings or not related at all I have no idea of course. I found it under Dave Fritz's web site and just checked, its still there. Good Luck

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Y2K RAM 2500 4X4 QC LWB Patriot Blue 5-Speed 3. 54 LS rear end, Trlr. Tow & Camper Packages & Westin Nerfs

 

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I have been waiting to post until I had a chance to put some miles on with the PE. I had a great conversation with HVAC and ordered mine through him. At the same time I ordered the PE, I also ordered JRE’s exhaust. The install went smooth on both.
I have been running a VA box for a while and the PE flat spanks it. I agree that the VA has more right off idle. But the PE’s power from 1900 to 2900 rpm rocks. I was in level 3 just cruising in 4th at about 40 and nailed it and the damn thing broke loose, yea the pavement was a little damp but holy crap. When this happened I was enjoying the sound of the new exhaust in a tunnel. I can only imagine what the power is like for you guys with the PE/big injectors. I’m running the stock injectors, PE (std. prog. ) and the JRE exhaust. I’m really impressed.
I like the power in all three settings but you guys know which setting will see the most use, I also like being able to turn it off.

PE: Money well spent. Straight forward install.

JRE’s exhaust: Money well spent. I’m not a mechanic and the install was no problem. But best of all the thing sounds freakin awesome.

HVAC: Yes to all three of your questions. It arrived here when you said it would. Thanks.


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2000 3500 Quad Cab 4X4 5sp. 3. 54 Patriot Blue PE and JRE Exhaust