Serviced the ‘18 today. A few notes.

[gsbrockman]

Not to start a debate, but the “through the fender wheel well” method works quick and easy for me.

Doesn’t work AT ALL for myself and @Wiredawg
Must be a 4500/5500 thang......Oh, that’s right. We can do ours from below, just like the 2012 and older RAM / Cummins trucks.

 

[kthaxton]

You always seem to Have issues with anything I say. Maybe you should simply go to the next post.

I have no issue with going thru the fender. I simply don’t want to. I am giving my thoughts about going thru the fender. Sorry it bothers you.

I'm certainly not the only one...... and you aren't merely giving your thoughts, you are questioning going through the fender, over and over again.

You go on and on about this every time it is brought up, it's like you are a missionary proselytizing your method of oil change. It's like you seek personal validation by the amount of people who do it the same way you do.

Go Team Through-the-Fender!™
I'm going to make t-shirts! Who's on my team?

 

[kthaxton]

Doesn’t work AT ALL for myself and @Wiredawg
Must be a 4500/5500 thang......Oh, that’s right. We can do ours from below, just like the 2012 and older RAM / Cummins trucks.

It's just plastic, just use a Dremel or a jig saw. Cut that piece out and join Team Through The Fender! ™

We'll show those knuckle dragging from the top guys!

 

[NIsaacs]

If you still need some help changing your oil, here is some more info

https://www.turbodieselregister.com/posts/2339642/

https://www.turbodieselregister.com/posts/2389795/

 

[Ozymandias]

Easy, just don't prefill.

Exactly, prefill can even kill an engine.
We had that happenhere with VM engines.
Let me explain why. In these engines the oil pump is mounted relatively high above the sump, with the oil all drained and a virtually dry pump, they are not be able to produce enough vacuum to pull the new oil from the pan to the pump because of the pre filled filter that plugs the exit for the air. They then just run dry.

The older the engine the more likely that happens, worn oil pump you know...

So it is like the manufacturer say, put the filter on dry and be on the safe side.
Pre fill can harm engines in more then one way, contamination is the other one.

 

[JR]

I tried looking for it but couldn't find it - at one time I remember a bulletin from either Cummins or Chrysler warning of tiny bits of foil from the oil jug plugging the piston cooling nozzles. Imagine how many warranty engines they ate to draw that conclusion. You would think it was as simple as making sure there was no loose material on the cap but the problems persisted nonetheless.

And this doesn't account for the much bigger likelihood - manufacturing snafus, plastic shavings from the bottle, dust and dirt from both the jug and the oil, etc.

I don't prefill oil filters for the same reasons i don't prefill my fuel filters.

 

[dieselshadow]

We can do ours from below, just like the 2012 and older RAM / Cummins trucks.

Some like it from the side, others on top, and strangely enough, there are plenty who can do it from the bottom. It's a crazy world we live in.

 

[dieselshadow]

Do we have any members who prefer to do it through the front? Perhaps the driver's side? I'm interested in knowing the strategies y'all would use.

Any members who prefill their filters using osmosis or injection so they don't go near the holes?

 

[Ozymandias]

Do we have any members who prefer to do it through the front? Perhaps the driver's side? I'm interested in knowing the strategies y'all would use.

Any members who prefill their filters using osmosis or injection so they don't go near the holes?

And think about the poor Australians, they are upside down there, the oil will spill all over them.

 

[RammerJam]

10,000 Stand Up Comedians out of work and.......

 

[Cummins12V98]

"you are questioning going through the fender, over and over again."

Not true, I have only questioned the ability to add one quart to the filter and then raise it without spilling or getting the seal dirty. Since some that I trust have said they can do it I will believe it can be done. BIG problem for me was all the videos like Too Tall's that skipped that portion made me question it.

Hope my explanation will satisfy some.

 

[RammerJam]

"you are questioning going through the fender, over and over again."

Not true, I have only questioned the ability to add one quart to the filter and then raise it without spilling or getting the seal dirty. Since some that I trust have said they can do it I will believe it can be done. BIG problem for me was all the videos like Too Tall's that skipped that portion made me question it.

Hope my explanation will satisfy some.

When I'm in the mood, I'll fill the filter completely, which takes two or three refills because of the absorption.

If you want to, pour all the remainder back into the jug. If you're using a quart container, you'll see how much the paper element holds which, believe it or else, is quite a bit. IMO, getting the paper element saturated is more important.

And don't fill it all the way if you're gonna spill it on the way in. Just don't. Don't make your life miserable, that's what we have wives for.

Just fill it to wherever you're comfortable and continue to march.

As to contaminated oil from the jug? I think not. From a 55 gallon drum of oil that Jim Bob and Julio and Jethro all share along with the oil-fill bucket that probably has cigarette ash, dirt and grease in it because it's been sitting in the same place on the bench for 20 years?

Yeah. Good odds it's contaminated. And then some.

But we're talking about the DIY guy or a supervised shop service. Not where you can't even go back into the service area without being told to leave because ________ (insert excuse here, hint: Insurance is a favorite)


“There are more things, Lucilius, likely to frighten us than there are to crush us; we suffer more often in imagination than in reality.”

― Seneca, Letters from a Stoic

 

[User113]

When I'm in the mood, I'll fill the filter completely, which takes two or three refills because of the absorption.

If you want to, pour all the remainder back into the jug. If you're using a quart container, you'll see how much the paper element holds which, believe it or else, is quite a bit. IMO, getting the paper element saturated is more important.

The paper element doesn't "absorb" or "hold" hardly any oil at all, and when draining it, the absorbed oil does not leave the paper element for a really long time, probably several hours, maybe a day. What you're experiencing is how long it takes for room temperature oil with virtually no exerted pressure to to travel through the the paper; i.e., for it to travel from the center reservoir of the filter through the paper and begin to fill up the space between the paper and the steel can (or vice versa if you fill it through the outer holes). As for draining it, the same thing happens, but oil usually doesn't flow out the outside holes because of the anti-drain back valve that most oil filters have, the oil that slowly seeps out is still being slowed by how long it takes to seep through the paper without being pumped.

 

[Jebruns]

Tell us more.....

Trying to find it again. When I did the first oil change on mine (only done 1 so far), the guide I followed had some procedure. I took it to be an official method, but maybe not? I'll try to dig it up and post it.

 

[RammerJam]

Enjoy

http://blog.genosgarage.com/wordpre...-buyers-guide-part-two-oil-filter-comparison/

 

[tgrfan2]

So.....where’s your scale tickets showing ANYTHING you’ve towed that has remotely netted anything close to over 26,000 or over? Oooooooohhhhhh....that’s right. You don’t have ANY. I guess if I were schlepping around pulling those tiny RV’s all day...I, too could average 63.5 mph
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I wish I could find the old scale receipts from my '78 440 Power Wagon. With 350 bushels of wheat on the 24' gooseneck the whole rig grossed 32500. Before every one goes crazy, I only pulled it on farm roads and used low range which let me "cruise" at about 40 mph.
These new trucks are great but I am not sure any of them would pull that kind of load out of fields and bad places for 110K miles without seeing a dealer.