Sidetracked again ( I now own a boat)

[SnoKing]

Early Ford Lehman marine diesels had the lower coolant hose routed through the belt. We learned to install a spare belt and tie it back for future need. you might think about doing that. In the picture below you can see the spare belt. SnoKing

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[mwilson]

Used my friends oil sucker thingy to change the oil. Worked pretty good. Gonna' have me one of them things for sure...

 

[mwilson]

Early Ford Lehman marine diesels had the lower coolant hose routed through the belt. We learned to install a spare belt and tie it back for future need. you might think about doing that. In the picture below you can see the spare belt. SnoKing

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Yes, I did exactly that...it's hard to see in the pictures but there is a spare already threaded through the mount and tied to the front cradle...didn't want to deal with that spacer out in the lake or a river for sure in the event of belt failure...

 

[SnoKing]

Smart move! SnoKing

 

[Wayne M.]

The marine stuff kills me! Dig that carburetor and 1980's vintage ign system! I'm guessing that's that large 4 cyl GM engine? I heard its one big block Chevy head. Is that the original oil filter? How many hours on the vessel mike? Very smart move with the spare V belt!

 

[RVTRKN]

Used my friends oil sucker thingy to change the oil. Worked pretty good. Gonna' have me one of them things for sure...


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I use something simular that is threaded to the oil dip stick tube, that is designed for that exact reason. However, the vacvuum pump, if you want to call it that, is positioned in the boat and pumps it to a bucket next to it. I've found that over half of a quart still remains in the oil pan, so I take a coolant bottle and cut out the side of it to act as a shallow pan, then drain the rest of the oil under the engine. I'll try to post some pictures of a major service that mine is due for, but its low priority at the moment. We are getting ready to relocate to Las Vegas, which means alot of Honey Do's around the house which have to be done first.

 

[SnoKing]

The marine stuff kills me! Dig that carburetor and 1980's vintage ign system! I'm guessing that's that large 4 cyl GM engine? I heard its one big block Chevy head. Is that the original oil filter? How many hours on the vessel mike? Very smart move with the spare V belt!

That is not a cross flow head! Intake and exhaust are both on port side of engine. SnoKing

 

[B.G. Smith]

That is not a cross flow head! Intake and exhaust are both on port side of engine. SnoKing

Great observation Snorking. I think that is what they call "The Iron Duke", 153 or 181 cid. Not too much power but enough to shuck a prop on the load ramp if the trailer is not out deep enough when loading.Mike, if the pulleys are as rough as they appear in the photos you probably will continue to have belt problems.

 

[SnoKing]

Great observation Snorking. I think that is what they call "The Iron Duke", 153 or 181 cid. Not too much power but enough to shuck a prop on the load ramp if the trailer is not out deep enough when loading.Mike, if the pulleys are as rough as they appear in the photos you probably will continue to have belt problems.

I was going to point that out. Small wire wheel time. SnoKing

 

[mwilson]

Yes, I noticed that. If it bothers again I'll pretty them up.


Put a Freightliner brand belt on it, so at least I've got warranty...

 

[mwilson]

Managed to run it out of gas last night.

I learned that when the gas gauge needle STOPS bouncing you have about 1 minute of run time remaining. At least I know all of the old gas is finally gone.....

 

[Wayne M.]

Oh it's an ol Duke. Great engine. They're still running around in the Grumman LLV USPS trucks.
Didn't they have another specific large 4 for marine? Like 4 liters big?

 

[SnoKing]

Crossflow Iron Duke Head

Cross-flow cylinder heads were added in mid-1979, leading people to refer to this version as the crossflow. Output stood at 90 hp (67 kW).

 

[EDankievitch]

The boat looks great best of luck with it. I'm not sure how old it is or what maintenance has been done to it. The one item of concern is the U joint Bellows. It keeps the water out of the drive shaft and U joints if you don't know when it was replaced have it done.

 

[mwilson]

The boat looks great best of luck with it. I'm not sure how old it is or what maintenance has been done to it. The one item of concern is the U joint Bellows. It keeps the water out of the drive shaft and U joints if you don't know when it was replaced have it done.

Vintage is 1997. The previous owner had a bunch of work done to it 5 years ago. He was the original owner.

I ASSUME from what he told me that the bellows was done at that time.

I'll keep it close to home for a while until I deem it 100% sea worthy, then we will do the river trip from Bangor out to the ocean as far as Searsport.

 

[SnoKing]

I would do the bellows and inspect the u-joins and bearings. Cheap insurance, as it is hard to "walk home". Get the Alpha One service manual, I believe it comes apart in pieces. My Volvo 280 was a 10-15 minute job to pull the top section.

 

[mwilson]

I would do the bellows and inspect the u-joins and bearings. Cheap insurance, as it is hard to "walk home". Get the Alpha One service manual, I believe it comes apart in pieces. My Volvo 280 was a 10-15 minute job to pull the top section.

Yes, I am going to have to take a look in there. Hoping to get by until fall but did put some insurance on it just in case it decided to go into "Submarine" mode....

 

[mwilson]

The marine stuff kills me! Dig that carburetor and 1980's vintage ign system! I'm guessing that's that large 4 cyl GM engine? I heard its one big block Chevy head. Is that the original oil filter? How many hours on the vessel mike? Very smart move with the spare V belt!

No, it was a NAPA Gold 1069 so the color matched the block...I wondered the same thing until I looked a little closer. It must have had 10/30 car oil in it because I gained 5 psi of oil pressure after putting the marine 25W40 oil on it. Running a solid 40 psi now.

NO idea on hours, no hourmeter that I can find. Tach is running about double speed, makes it fun to set the idle.

Got to bring it down a little more, still slams and grinds just a little bit when putting it in gear. Cable is not allowing it to go to full idle, adjusted it once and it's better than it was but needs another visit.

 

[mwilson]

I think this got all of the oil. I could bounce the little sucker tube off the bottom of the pan and it sounded empty when finished. The general consensus on the boating forums is this power train takes 4 qts for a complete service w/filter change, I put 4 qts in it and it was still down a half quart. Went back to the store and got another quart so I could top it off. Now I have a spare 1/2qt for the next service....

 

[mwilson]

The marine stuff kills me! Dig that carburetor and 1980's vintage ign system! I'm guessing that's that large 4 cyl GM engine? I heard its one big block Chevy head. Is that the original oil filter? How many hours on the vessel mike? Very smart move with the spare V belt!

Spare belt here....