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mwilson said:
It may simply need to be re-visited. I'm really thinking that some more guck from the tank got up in it....

My Honda EUI2000 generator had a head fit from bad gas (I treat all of my fuel but time got away from me and the Honda did not get started for 3 years!!!) and I had to tear that carb down three times before I got whatever speck of junk out of whatever it happened to be stuck in....

by the third time I was pretty fast at getting it disassembled and laid out on the bench....:D
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Glass or plastic filters are a USCG no no on gas marine engines. SnoKing
 
CALIFORNIA needs the money. This will help pay for all the entitlement programs. Sacramento thinks nothing about stealing from residents with their legislative legal corruption.
 
On the starting "mean" when warm, does that mean it cranks hard, or it spins but doesn't want to fire. On the first one I'd say check ignition timing. If it has a distributor, check To make sure the advanced plate moves freely. I've seen corrosion make those stick. If it crank fine but doesn't fire, i'd see if the fuel is draining back, or vapor lock, or fuel is dribbling in the intake causing it to flood.

Just suggestions, but you probably already know them.
 
Dan_69GTX said:
On the starting "mean" when warm, does that mean it cranks hard, or it spins but doesn't want to fire. On the first one I'd say check ignition timing. If it has a distributor, check To make sure the advanced plate moves freely. I've seen corrosion make those stick. If it crank fine but doesn't fire, i'd see if the fuel is draining back, or vapor lock, or fuel is dribbling in the intake causing it to flood.

Just suggestions, but you probably already know them.
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Any and all suggestions welcomed for sure.

It turns over fast but doesn't fire off. Then it will half heartedly begin to sputter, catch and then run. I think it's fuel related...

The trouble is every time it does it I'm out on the water and the engine cover is on, spotters and kids on board, etc... I'll have to make an unloaded trip with the cover off and look down in the damn carb as the wife turns it over...I can't tell if it's no fuel or too much fuel at this point. I do have a hard time finding a happy restart position on the throttle lever.

When it's cold I have learned to pump the handle a few times to set the choke, just like starting an old 60's vintage Chevy Pick Up truck....it takes right off if you do that first on a cold start...

There is a check ball within the fitting that attaches to the fuel tank pick up and it was stuck closed when I bought the boat...maybe that it staying open a bit when warm???
 
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OK, if it takes right off when cold, then I don't think it is fuel drain back. Since that would also affect a coldstart.

So, could be One of the following, or something else.
-Fuel leaking into the intake.
- A heat soaked coil causing weak spark.

When you figure it out, let us know
 
And when it does finally start when warm it runs great and will accept wide open throttle tube launches with no hesitation...
 
Mikey- mebbe if you quit loading it on the trailer like this... :-laf

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I can't thread back, but is this still a rebuilt by you carb, or a replacement ?
Hard start hot sounds like minor flooding. Betcha the float is a bit high, or the needle and seat not doing the job.
Take a ride and get it hot. Throw the anchor out or tie up. Shut her down, but not before getting the hatch open/ air cleaner off. Now watch for leakage in the Venturi as it sits.
One thing EFI has done is spoil the heck out of us!
 
Thanks Dan and Wayne,

Got me thinking, the rebuild kit that Sierra makes DOES NOT include the float. The Mercruiser / Quicksilver kits do include a new float but were a couple of weeks out so I purchased the Sierra kit at West Marine in Portland when I got the new prop.

I bet the floats gone heavy. I'm pretty sure it has been at LEAST 2 solid decades if not more since I last saw that happen...
New float on the way.....
 
When replacing the float, be sure to set the height! Dig out a '70-80's motor or chitons book to review. If that's not right, the needle may never seat. This is important especially since you're rockin and a rollin out there.
 
Have float specs in hand, but no float. Amazon just sent me a shipping delayed notification...UPS had some kind of crisis. Still coming today but too late for the install.
Also ordered a new filter that goes in the fuel pump, it still has the OEM stone one in there right now...

Will update when I get the float and filter installed...
 
On a side note I firmly believe that one should never stop learning,,,,

So all of a sudden I seem to be taken with the idea of making loops in ropes without knots....so I have ordered a set of "Fids"......will keep you posted on that learning curve..

For those that have never heard of that here is a little You Tube "How to"....the music sounds like it came from a '70s porn flick at the drive in BUT what he does is pretty cool...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ym1-rI0SdaA
 
Man, that brings back some memories.

My first REAL job was at a shop where we built Electrical Utility trucks, bucket trucks and digger derricks. The winches used that same type nylon rope, the most popular size was 1". One of my jobs was to make the ropes for the winches and there is literally no telling how many eyes I've made. I still have a 15' X 3/4" rope I made that I carry in my truck for towing.

Once you've done a few and get your marks right on your bench you want have any problems. Make sure you buy plenty of extra, you are going to make mistakes at first and it takes a couple of feet to make the eye.
 
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Mike, Doing ropes is great way for making specially lines most of the ones I do have stainless steel insert, as using in salt water, great idea, good luck on your sidetracked project.
 
In my marine days, there were a couple of sheepshead bay pilots who could do amazing feats like that with huge barge line. Local 333 guys.
 
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