Smarty CR software updates

[Bob Wagner]

Hey Gang , We had a major windstorm hit the puget sound region with 1 million customers without power.



WE FINALLY have power and cable reconnected but I have been down since last THURSDAY.



Please give me a day to catch back up on what is going on and all will be taken care of in quick order.



Thank you

Bob

 

[jltcasper3]

Thanks for the update bob



I just loaded the 307 302 version back in my 05 and it worked fine. Their must be something different for an 03 or something. I couldn't stand not having the smoke anymore. With the 309 version installed on on 60 horse setting it almost felt like stock, and with the 307 version on 30 horse their is deffiently more power than the 309 60 horse setting, and more smoke.

 

[Marco]

Hi gang,
Let me start my day with an update to you.

As soon as the first reports about the higher EGT's and little less power with the software X. 04 came in I've started to work on new softwares. Chrysler has already released new updates for the 06's and 07's that needed to be addressed too...

Since I was already working on the new softwares, twas also time for more news.

Here's what I've done thus far.
Let's start from the file name(s). As you probably know, we name our softwares in way to know exactly what it does. It works like this...

X. 05Y
Where: "X" describes the torque management level
Where: "05" describes the revision. ( "05" will be the new release )
Where: "Y" describes... . that's whole new I'll tell you in a little while.

To begin with,
I've added version 4 to the torque management level. To give you an idea
about it, it's a even more aggressive than the "original" release. The wild thing... .

"Y" describes the timing and the wastegate disable. Thus far I've used letters A/B/C/D.

A= Stock injectors ( the timing from version X. 03 )
B= Stock injectors with disabled wastegate. I'll tell you more a little ahead.
C= Aftermarket injectors ( the timing from version X. 04 )
D= Aftermarket injectors with disabled wastegate.

Each of the above can be had with the four different torque managemants.
1-2-3 and 4. In all that gives SIXTEEN different downloads availabel.
Sixteen softwares, eleven different key#'s each, fourtysix different truck versions... Makes 8096 different softwares in order to cover all trucks.

The softwares are all ready.

Here's the "problem". In way to turn the download process into anything even close to reasonable to the customer we need to re-do the whole downloads section of our website. With the descrption for each sw, disclaimers and what not...
That's what I'm working on now. Only... I've already done it a couple times but it's still not what I want it to become... :{
A lot of work... I'm doing my best, hopefully before X-Mas...

Let's take a moment to talk about the " wastegate disable".
Some might call it boost fooling, wastegate disable is the better designation in my mind.
As you know on the 04. 5 and later trucks the wastegate is controlled by the ECM. The system is designed to keep the max boost arround 30 Psi.
The fact is that 30 Psi are not enough to keep the EGT's in check at higher power levels. We'd need more boost! The question is, HOW do we get it on a stock truck (stock turbo... ) ? One way is a to fool the ECM into seeing less pressure than there actually is. In poor words a " boost fooler " like most fuelling boxes already provide. Or?... Smarty... .

I've choosen to disable the wastegate (for now ) rather than setting it at this or that value simply because different boost levels would require even more downloadable softwares. That would add only more confusion on our website.

Furthermore there are limits to what CAN be done. Just to mention one, the MAP sensor can read only 38-40 Psi. I can not set the boost to let's say 41 Psi simply because the MAP does not read that value...

In my mind the easiest way to get the desired boost out of a stock turbo is the disabled wastegate SW AND an adjustable boost elbov.

Makes sense?

Back to work now!

Thanks for your attention and patience!!!

Marco
P. S.
What I still don't get with the CR engines how far spreaded out the results with the same software are. I mean to say, I've tested the timing used in the last update in my truck with none of the effects several others are seeing... . Hmmm... .

 

[Marco]

To help you understand the decision about the disabled wastegate, here's a MSG I've posted in a different thread some time ago.

I feel there is quiet some confusion about the " Boost Fooling " on the CR trucks. Let me try to explain exactly what's involved with it.

Let's start from the 2003 to 2004 trucks.
Those trucks use a "traditional" wastegate. With traditional I mean to say, apply enough pressure to the actuator and the WG opens. All mechanical...

For those trucks my SW's actually already do the " boost fooling". That means, there is a table of values in the ECM that commands fuel based upon intake pressure. So much pressure, so much fuel. If the pressure exceeds a preset value in that table then the ECM will cut back on fuel. That's already taken care of with my SW's.
2003's to 2004's are a no brainer. No need for an electronic boost fooler. You need to "fool" with the wastegate actuator in order to see higher boost.

The 2004. 5 and up trucks.
In addition to the above they have an electronic valve to provide pressure to the WG actuator ( It's that black gizmo screwed into the turbo with the rubber line to the WG actuator ). That valve is controlled by the ECM and it's actuation is based upon... you guessed it the intake pressure.

In addition to the boost table discussed above there's a second table that deals with the duty cycle of that valve VS boost. At a certain preset point the valve opens, provides pressure to the WG actuator and the WG is opened.

That is the "problem".

The WG actuation is based upon the boost pressure, the MAP sensor.

Let's say for a moment Smarty is used on a truck ALONE. OK, I can mod the table that deals with the duty cycle, thus open the WG at a higher boost pressure.

Now we stack Smarty with the modified duty cycle table AND any box that does "boost fooling". (Almost all boxes fool the ECM into seeing less boost than there is in reality. )

What do we get?

Smarty's SW opens the WG at higher than stock boost pressure. PLUS the box fools the ECM into seeing less pressure. That translates into even more boost before the ECM will open the WG. Whatever is the weakest link in the chain will go BOOM... .

See?

That's what has held me back from relasing the "Boost Fooling" SW's for the 04. 5's and up . The Boost Fooling software's are ready. I'm still debating with myself if I should send them to customers upon request or publish them on our website ready for download.

Upon request is a problem because the file is hugh ( 20+ Megs ). Published on the web site is even worse. I can already hear it... "you didn't tell me that I would have blown my turbo with that SW"...

Thought's?

Marco

 

[JVolpe]

MARCO,



Thanks for the info and update. I think a lot of 04. 5 and up users have aftermarket tubos that more or less make the electronic actuator a mute point.

 

[Marco]

I think a lot of 04. 5 and up users have aftermarket tubos that more or less make the electronic actuator a mute point.

Yes and no. If only Smarty is used in a truck with an aftermarket turbo then overboost codes would be set and the engine defueled. With the wastegate disable software this is no longer...

Looks like I'm almost done with the new downloads section...

Marco
P. S. Back to work...

 

[JDerbedrossian]

Cant wait for the "wild" program to be ready for my 03

 

[Giachino]

Hi gang,

AND an adjustable boost elbov.

Anyone have a recommendation on where I can get an adjustable boost elbow? I'm going to want to limit my stock turbo to 38-40 psi. It's for an 06.

 

[Bob4x4]

Anyone have a recommendation on where I can get an adjustable boost elbow? I'm going to want to limit my stock turbo to 38-40 psi. It's for an 06.

Once you drill and tap for that you are no longer stealth... ... ... ...



Bob

 

[Big P]

Call TST. They ship an adjustable boost elbow setup with the 04. 5 and up Powermax. There is nothing to drill or tap.

 

[blkdragon]

i cannot wait marco, from the sound of it i think it is going to be worth the wait. what would happen if i were to say put the aftermarket injector program with a # 4 on the TM on a truck with stock injectors/Turbo? Would i Just get a lot of smoke and EGT's or would even work? do you suspect any more HP and TQ gains with this new SW? Thanks a lot and sorry about the storm, i feel for you. i know how hard it is to catch up on things like this!



P. S. also do you happen to know why us with an 03 cannot go back to the 3. 07 SW and the 04 and 05 guys can??

 

[Fitchconstruction]

Smarty for SALE.

















Smarty purchase $700

Dually tires $1200



Leaving 80 feet of duals and the look on peoples faces



PRICELESS!!!!









Wifes for sale before the smarty. Hun look the other way please.

 

[robertyoke]

Call TST. They ship an adjustable boost elbow setup with the 04. 5 and up Powermax. There is nothing to drill or tap.

I thought they stopped doing the adjustable elbow except for the 03/04 trucks. they said it was handled now but the powermax computer electronically.

-robert

 

[Marco]

Gang,
The updates are published.

I think this time there's the right one for everybody available... .
Please give our downloads section a look. A lot of stuff to choose from!

Would you please let me know your feelings about the downloads section?
With two different Smarty models and sixteen different downloads for each...
Is it easy enough to find the right file?

Thanks!

Marco

 

[Triton]

Gang,

The updates are published.



I think this time there's the right one for everybody available... .

Please give our downloads section a look. A lot of stuff to choose from!



Would you please let me know your feelings about the downloads section?

With two different Smarty models and sixteen different downloads for each...

Is it easy enough to find the right file?



Thanks!



Marco

Hi Marco..... first of all, a big thanks for your diligence. In looking at the downloads, I see you have 07 in there. Am I correct in assuming the new software can be used in the '07 5. 9L ? If so... . I'm off to make the purchase!

 

[brista]

Marco, the download section looks well organized. The menu selections are well explained. Looks good!

 

[Marco]

Triton,
GOOD that you mention the 2007's!
MAN, with all those new updates I've forgotten to explain that!

I have the files for the 2007's ready but did not have the time to implement them yet!!! Smarty S-06A is listead for 2003 to 2007 but the SW updates for 2007 are not ready yet... :{
Can you forgive me? Pleeeeeze!

I'll work on it begining 12/27...

Marco

 

[dperf]

Marco, i am confused a little with downloading. i have an '06 and want the level 4 trq management. i see it availible on the 03-5. 5 download page, but not the 06. is it availible for my truck yet?thanks

 

[brista]

Marco, i am confused a little with downloading. i have an '06 and want the level 4 trq management. i see it availible on the 03-5. 5 download page, but not the 06. is it availible for my truck yet?thanks

It is there but on the page with the modified engine stuff. It suggests having clutch or AT work done first.

 

[Marco]

dperf,
I've added some text. Please try again and see if you can find it now.

Thanks for the heads up!

Marco