Competition Something to dream about....

[MCummings]

Originally posted by crawler

... something I've seen for a long time...

I've seen it for a long time too, since. .

07-19-2003 08:32 AM

Put those Nike shoes on, and Just Do It.



Merrick Cummings Jr

 

[your mom]

Its going to be 8 months since I sent my truck to Texas and still nothing. How long should I expect this to continue?

8 months seems like a reasonable amount of time to me to finish the job especially since I paid for everything up front and did not hold back. Not even the majority of the labor money

 

[Bob Wagner]

Originally posted by your mom

Thought I would post a quick one:









I 'm not looking for public displays or people gawking over my truck. scratching it, denting it, or even looking at the system under the hood, no thanks. It mine, its private and if you want to see what one will do buy your own.

That quote really blows me away

 

[MCummings]

Originally posted by your mom

I'm thinking 80# of boost on the street and low drive pressures with some real dense cool air charges.

Soon I'll find out what temperature my 100PSI is producing.



You have to start thinking. If you compress a certain amount of air into a smaller space in a short amount of time (to produce boost) it will make heat.



No way you will get 80PSI boost, and ambient boost pressures. I know of a few Dodges out there runing just fine with a 200PSI compression test. More than enough to compress air fast enough to heat it up and burn it.



Maybe you are on the right track. One thing that is happening with the intercoolers is you are compressing the air slower, and giving it more time to cool off. Laggy?



Good Luck!



4 months more and I'd start raisin' holy hell.

(That should be enough time to finsih it up, even working two jobs)



Merrick

 

[your mom]

Why ?... ... I've seen lots of people have their trucks damaged by some onlooker who has no regard for the amount of money or time the owner has put into their trucks. Peole will even steal parts, disconnect things or purposely sabotage an owners vehicle. I would like to avoid it.

Do you think 8 months is not long enough to put atruck back together? Because that's what I am asking.

 

[MCummings]

your mom,



I've been in your shoes. My truck has been sabotaged, and I've had parts tweaked by curious bystanders.



Well, Mark as a Friend, I'd have to say to give him a break, but, in reality, 8 months is too long. Priorities.



Merrick

 

[your mom]

It will never take 4 more moths or it will not ever be built. If it does not get built I will own texas diesel works.

I am a business man and should have never let it go to this extreme. For anyone to make that kind of a comment to some one who has waited for 8 months already is wrong even in jest.

If any of you out there thinks that you can take someone's money and not perform the job you were contracted to do you are wrong. If any of you think you can cash checks and not give a written bid as a vendor you are wrong and liable to return all the money even if you perform the work. I see very few put their money up the way I did. What you do not know is that I would not have done it without positioning myself properly in legal terms.

 

[Sled Puller]

Originally posted by your mom

. If it does not get built I will own texas diesel works.

.

... trying to figure out what the benefit of that would be... ... ...







Get your truck, and your money, drop it off at Mitchells, Scheids, Hasileys, in 6 weeks or less, I would guess, you would have your fire breathin dragon.





One thing I have learned since joining this deal, is don't pay for someone else's R&D. It has cost me some cash.



Of course, if you want experimental stuff, then you only have yourself to blame.

 

[Sled Puller]

Originally posted by your mom

Spoke to lots of diesel gurus, Mark won the bid. .

Disregard my last post!



Didn't realize you shopped around and went with low bidder.

 

[Hammer]

Its going to be 8 months since I sent my truck to Texas and still nothing.

:--) :--) :--) :--)

 

[csutton7]

this is beyond rediculous---MOM, go get that thing and bring it back here to CA and I'm sure there's someone who can finish that thing in a month---but then will it hold together after the first few initial runs-more time to figure out what will need to be upgraded drivetrain wise and tweaking-sleddy is right you're paying for Mark's R&D and I would make sure I'd be getting some royalties--that is if they work and he sells some more of these systems---I feel for you---for you guys who don't know MOM he is a first rate chap, further evidenced by his few posts on this subject when it comes up on the internut, but now you can see that this is taking way,way to long--it would be interesting to know what the original time frame was---maybe it's on this thread but I'm not going back and try and find it----chris

 

[MCummings]

Originally posted by your mom

For anyone to make that kind of a comment to some one who has waited for 8 months already is wrong even in jest.



... without positioning myself properly in legal terms.

your mom,



Forgive me, my comment was uncalled for.







Looks like we are going to watch Mark drive himself crazy finishing up the truck, contract it out, or loose his shop?



Merrick

 

[JDailey]

I knew this was going to happen months ago. Mark got way in over his head it seems. Calling people all over the country trying figure out how to make it work after you've taken the man's money is pitiful. Your Mom, if money was a factor in the decision to have Mark do the work... I am sorry. You obviously get what you pay for. I hope you get it to someone who can straighten it out for you. Maybe Mark should stick to changing oil?

 

[Hammer]

07-19-2003 09:32 AM

Hmmmm.....

This what your looking for Chris???????.



Your Mom... .

You are way more patient than most anyone person would ever understand. I'd have been in Texas with my "nimwit and antagonistic" attitude long ago,put my truck on a hook and took it somewhere else. Hope your truck is done soon and does what the guarantee that was made to you.



I don't understand you showing it though and never will I guess. Maybe its the area out there who knows. Mine is shown in the local states at many different shows and has never been screwed with. Sled Puller was correct though,this truck would have been done along time ago out of ANY of the major diesel shops... ... . Andy

 

[Bob Wagner]

I must say that my comment came from a NW BOMBer stannce, No one in our group would ever sabotage or steal anything from another member.



it makes me sick too see it happen anywhere else.



I guess desperate people do desperate things





Sorry David I really thought you have a awesome truck one that I never could compete with





edit* I agree that Mom is a stand up guy, why in the hell did he leave Brandons stable? I know somewhat how Mom got screwed in the past.





Mom's truck was awesome and I hope it will be after the fact :{

 

[How'dHeDoThat]

Mom,

8 months is indeed a long time... perhaps too long but I am curious as to how long (months) it sat waiting for "custom" manufactured parts? Did these "custom" manufactured parts impeed the process?

Still agreeing that 8 months is an awful long time but not agreeing that it should have taken a month or month and a half when "custom" manufactured items can take longer than that to acquire on something as "out of the norm" as your truck.

Didn't the "custom" exhaust manifold just arrive for that truck the end of October?



I have watched some of the "slow" progress of your truck over the last 5 months and it seems there is alot of trial and error work and alot of waiting on parts that has occurred. The motor work has been done for quite some time.



The way I see it Mark has had the truck 8 months but has had the parts neccesary to build the triples less than 1 month. Perhaps it might have been better to send the truck after all the parts had been procured? Perhaps you have a legitamate gripe? But at least have all the facts out there before you start a slam campaign or make derogatory or inflamatory remarks on a public forum such as this. I don't know all the facts, you and Mark do!



There are those that will say you took it to the wrong shop or 8 months is too long but do they know all the facts? The amount of work you contracted and the extent of the "custom" work you want?



At this point I would want my truck ASAP but I would not want to rush it either! I would want that "new" engine run in with a single turbo for a short break in and then have the triples installed. I think there are certain obvious reasons to do this such as addressing any bugs that might exsist etc.



Your call, of course, but fueling up a fire on a public forum is just going to get negatives and I would think you are looking for some major positives at this point... FWIW



James

 

[Sled Puller]

Say..... what happened to that triple turbo truck ATS was talking about a while back?

 

[jrandol]

Originally posted by Sled Puller

Say..... what happened to that triple turbo truck ATS was talking about a while back?

Unless I am loosing my mind (which is very possible ) I think it was at the ATS meet held January of this year. They had the front clip off of it and the truck looked pretty sweet! I cant remember for sure if they had it all up and running or not though. Can anyone that was at that show in January verify that I am or am not going crazy?

 

[R.ebel]

Yep, the triple charger ATS truck was there last January. While giving it a good look over, I noticed that in order to make room for one of the 3 turbos they had to heat up the frame and smash a portion of the frame box section flat Recent rumor has it that it didn't work very well and has been shelved.

 

[How'dHeDoThat]

Originally posted by R. ebel

Yep, the triple charger ATS truck was there last January. While giving it a good look over, I noticed that in order to make room for one of the 3 turbos they had to heat up the frame and smash a portion of the frame box section flat Recent rumor has it that it didn't work very well and has been shelved.

I think that is the real head scratcher on Mom's truck... Making it all fit! 3 turbo's, one is a monster, 2 intercoolers and a new radiator.



As far as the R&D I think Turbonetics spec'ed it all out and gave the configuration for the piping but I don't think they elaborated on how to make it all fit. One good thing is the new header/manifold is mounted with the outlet at the front side of the motor. Just glad it is not me that has to make it all fit.



I wonder if Turbonetics has done a triple and knows it will work or if they have a "good" theory if they are indeed the ones that spec'ed it all out.



James