I reacted to HBarlow's sarcasm and rudeness as I saw fit. And as far as I'm concerned, his tone and attitude set the stage in this particular thread.
I will be the first to admit that Barlow annoys me very often, usually because he finishes a sentence with a an attack on someone's political leanings. He's always right, and never wrong, and very seldom has anything nice to say. And in turn I tend to have little nice to say to him either.
Call me childish if you like, but sometimes you have to call Harvey out on his own brand of childishness and bs. He doesn't hold back with his venomous attacks on folks. Just look at some of his postings in the Political Forum for a little taste.
I've gained a lot of very valuable information from this fine group of Cummins enthusiasts. And in return for all those folks sharing their experiences and knowledge, I try to give back by also relating my experiences. If I break something or make a mistake I try to own up to it, and put it out there so others can also learn. And if I think I have a good fix for something I try and share it too. I understand that this is a community and it lives and dies according to the participation of it's members.
All it takes is a few malcontents like Harvey (or Myself) to bring folks down, and to put a lock on the doors of the forum forever. That would be a shame. And this is precisely why I tend to avoid the Political Forum these days. Nothing much ever gets discussed. Rather, folks on opposite sides argue and insult each other, and folks on the same side just agree and hold hands.
Am I a bully for saying what I think?
As far as additives go, snake oil or not, I have seen results with a smoother running truck, and seat of the pants increase in power. That's my experience, and my opinion, and that's all.
Have a nice day! (no sarcasm intended. )
GulDam
look gentlemen if i may use that term. sarcasim is fine and can be humorus when looked at appropriately. hbarlow did say that he is simply stating his opinion which he is entitled to. he didnt say that in fact its true none of them work just that he didnt think they didnt. i will venture out that if you could provide concrete proof that brand x additive was benifical to your truck that hbarlow would at least look into it. the burden of proof might be high but any rational person can be pursauded(sp?) to see things in a new way.
you guys are slinging insults around at each other like a bunch of kids. no one has provided proof much less concrete proof that they are right and that the other person is wrong. you are both stating an opinion based on personal experience and if thats enough for you, and you sleep better at night by believeing that then go for it.
now hbarlow i dont think that slinging insults about someones political veiws is really all that big of you. i personaly am a big believer in turning the other cheek. let your actions speak louder then your words. be bigger by not retaliating thats often seen as a good virtue. who cares who they voted for or what they believe in maybe they are wrong maybe they are right. personaly i dont agree with guldam about obama but thats fine he can vote as he wishes.
now guldam how about you take a bit of your own medicine you asked hbarlow if his moma taught him not to say anything if he couldnt say anything nice. you were the first to pull out the insults and start throwing them like a monkey at the zoo. also no where in this thread did hbarlow state he had facts. he stated his opinion and that was it. you can take it for what its worth. again personaly, i dont totally agree with hbarlow on additives. i have found additives that seem to work. i do not have any hard evidence as of yet but maybe someday ill have the money to be able to set up and experiment in a controled and scientific matter that the additives i do like do in fact work.
im a scientist of sorts, and am studying in a field where a scientific approach will produce a better product. in the sciences you have to keep an open mind to the results. in other words have both a pessimistic and optimistic view of what you are doing.
i want to state clearly that i am not taking sides here. guldam i am not familar with any other posts you have made. at least none that i can recall at the moment. your first impression on me is not a good one. you seem to be a bully and just looking for a fight. however maybe there is bad blood between you and hbarlow i do not know. as for hbarlow i have noticed many of your posts and im still not sure what to make of you. while many times you have solid information to at least think about. almost as many times you are just simply slinging insults at people. however i will admit that i have never really paid mush attention to it and so i cannot comment whether it was your fault and therefore a personality flaw or if someone else started it and your simply defending yourself which is understandable. you are no doubt a contreversial person, and i have seen you right in the middle of many hot arguments here on tdr. however you can be a decent person to talk to and ask questions. look at the communications we have exchanged right here on this thread. its rather obvious that we have different veiws on the subject, still though we could discuss it like adults and at least for me take in what was said and apply it to reality. i like to hear opposing views because often times it can change my opinion if the view is supported by concrete facts, and it keeps my mind open to other possibilities.
moral of this long winded post is why dont ya'll just grow up, and bigpapa i think your comment was rather commical and well stated lol.
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