Starter solenid wire missing?

[snapped_bolt]

Hi folks!

After a very long time in my driveway we are getting somewhere.
We have done an engine swap, and it seems the starter solenoid wire is missing. Five guys were over yesterday, and when we got to this wire, none was found.
I couldn't get in to see where this wire may have been hiding, but I am going out soon to see if it hadn't gotten tucked out of the way for the engine pull/install.
The other possibility is that is was broken when they pulled the engine and I won't find it. I am a little concerned here as it may be difficult pinpointing the breakout from the bundle so a new wire can be substituted.

Any thoughts would be appreciated. Wow. all those wires, and can't get the engine to crank.

Thanks!

snapped_bolt

 

[snapped_bolt]

Update...

It appears that there is a connection missing up by the fuse box- there is a gray terminal with a large single spade connector hanging in mid air. It has a brown wire that travels up the battery cable and connects to the battery. The wire continues down another large cable toward the starter.
What should I be looking for here? I supposedly had help from "experienced" mechanics yesterday, but some of the things said by them led me to believe they should go home.
So there is one connection not being made right up by the fuse box, and someone misplaced my inspection mirror, so I need to know if this brown wire is supposed to break out of the bundle leading to the starter (which make the most sense), within a few inches of the solenoid connection.
For some reason the "mechanics" yesterday thought the engine could be started without power to the solenoid.

I can really use some guidance here as I can't see where the wire may be. My inspection mirror is surely traveling around the county today.

Thanks

snapped_bolt

 

[PWong]

What year?

 

[snapped_bolt]

Hi,

This is a 2003 3500 2WD. I can't put it in my signature, it's not my truck!


Thanks again,

snapped_bolt

 

[PWong]

http://www.rambodybuilder.com/2004/docs/wd/drwd/8W-21/8W-21-3.pdf

I don't have the 03 diagram. Sorry.

 

[PWong]

The wire to solenoid was coming from the starter motor relay, not directly from the battery.

Only the wire the feed power to the motor was connected to the driver side battery positive post.

You should have the same circuitry. The color of wiring might be different.

 

[snapped_bolt]

I got up the nerve

... to thread my arm under the brake cylinder and reached the wire bundle near the starter. There is a wire about 2-3 inches long that has no terminal on it whatsoever. Work should have stopped right there so a new terminal could be installed.
Now I just need to find where the connector up be the fuse/relay box connects.

Thanks for the help so far!

snapped_bolt

 

[PWong]

OK just found the 03 wiring info.
The BROWN wire was the wire from starter motor relay to starter solenoid.

 

[PWong]

OK just found the 03 wiring info.
The BROWN wire was the wire from starter motor relay to starter solenoid.

From IPM C7 pin 1 to solenoid, brown wire.

 

[cerberusiam]

The starter solenoid wire goes up the starter hot cable then breaks out at the battery clamp on the driver side then into the cross over cable housing and drops out on the back side of the PDC. Looks like it connects to the FCM harness on the bottom of the PDC. Mine is 10-12 ga yellow wire.

 

[snapped_bolt]

Hmmm...

I can't seem to find a reference anywhere offering this solenoid push-on terminal for sale. Perhaps we will need a new positive battery cable assembly that would have one properly installed. Even so, I still can't find a reference that shows this wire included with the cable (coming from the driver's side battery).

The engine for this truck arrived at my house without the truck. The engine was a cobbled-together bunch of parts, the owner decided not to rebuild at this point. Another used engine was found, I installed the injectors, connector tubes, HP lines and the rail. It was an automatic, so we swapped the engine harness and removed the TC cooler. It is a real bummer to find this one connector MIA through all this.
I'll go back out with a mirror and look for that other connection up by the fuse/relay box.

Cheers!

snapped_bolt

 

[cerberusiam]

They probably cut it out when they pulled the cables. The wire is not a part of the hot cable assembly, just run in the housing to protect it. Either laying in the truck somewhere or it got tossed as not needed, basket cases are such fun.

 

[snapped_bolt]

Ha.

Temporary connection to solenoid. Truck started. Starting new thread.


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