Supertech DEF production date

[josephc1]

Thank you Newsa. I'm going to add another three quarts and run with that for awhile. I'll keep everyone posted. Math was never my best subject.

 

[Newsa]

Thank you Newsa. I'm going to add another three quarts and run with that for awhile. I'll keep everyone posted. Math was never my best subject.

Be careful. A quart is 32 oz. If you added a quarter of a gallon before, your % would already by less than 30%

 

[TCDiesel]

josephc1 ,No need to worry. I ran 14-17% in My 2019 the 1.8 years of Ownership. Purchase 2.5 Gallon DEF and 2 Gallons DW at about a little under 1/2 Pour 2.5 Gallons of DEF and add 2 Gallons of DW. Keep in add the DEF 1st than the DW, DEF gauges at NOT very accurate so when filling if it overflow with DW no big deal.

If you want to check the conversion speed, Leave 1/2 gallon in the 2.5 container and at 1/2 gallon DW , its almost immediate add temps above 70F.

 

[RVTRKN]

I don't understand why an owner would want to risk warranty and extended warranty. I can see TCDiesel doing it, but he has all the nessasary equipment to deal with issues as they come up, but for the average Joe, he does not. If you have a sensor failure that can cost a couple of thousand dollars that is under warranty, and they check your DEF, your warranty is toast. A buddy of mine just had his emmisions sensor replaced, (thats all I know about it) and it cost his warranty contract $1800.00, on his 2014 CTD. TC please post the process to clean the entire system out, and the recommended intervals.

Thanks.

 

[TCDiesel]

The API Cert Is weight ,and when mixing by volume the % changes, If you had a little under 1/2 tank DEF on gauge and added 2.5 Gallons of DEK and added 1 Gallon DW you would be around 22-24% concentrate. I've ran concentrate down to 10% and NO problems.

 

[TCDiesel]

I don't understand why an owner would want to risk warranty and extended warranty. I can see TCDiesel doing it, but he has all the nessasary equipment to deal with issues as they come up, but for the average Joe, he does not. If you have a sensor failure that can cost a couple of thousand dollars that is under warranty, and they check your DEF, your warranty is toast. A buddy of mine just had his emmisions sensor replaced, (thats all I know about it) and it cost his warranty contract $1800.00, on his 2014 CTD. TC please post the process to clean the entire system out, and the recommended intervals.

Thanks.

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RV, I have true invents I could post, I will share Just one, I was in court last week on a dealer Charge of $12,000.00 Charge....The Dealer destroy his System, The Judge rule with extreme prejudice in favor of the Plaintiff (Owner).

The Owner accidently added 1 QT DEF to Tank . Owner called Me and I used My connections to have the Truck Pickup FB , the Owner Instructed Him to take it to the Dealership, I instructed the Driver to take to HOA.. The truck was Never Started and was pulled up on FB and dropped, According to the Owner He taped massage on steering wheel of Tank contaminate with DEF DO NOT START... and talk to SR NOT to start truck,YEP You got it the idiots at the dealership started and drove it. Their defense in court was the Maker told them the entire system needed replacement BC the DEF was in the tank. I was able to convince the Court that the Dealership destroyed the system and was Dealer negligence .

GTG

 

[RVTRKN]

As they should be liable. But I still would like to know the process to clean mine rather than risk warranty.

 

[TFucili]

From a simple tank drop to mass destruction because they were too lazy to push it into the shop.

 

[gsbrockman]

What this thread needs is a little bit of popcorn.....

 

[pwr2tow]

1. We can throw money at the dealership.

2. We can throw money at extended warranties.

3.We can throw money at FCA.

4. The little woman and I do enjoy 2 to 3 bowls of stir crazy popcorn a week but it hasn't solved 1 - 3 yet.

 

[TCDiesel]

As they should be liable. But I still would like to know the process to clean mine rather than risk warranty.

This is Shawn on his Eco, As you can see once the urea see's heat Water alone cannot dissolve after it hardens. Almost All light Duty /Passenger vehicles use the same Injector

 

[TCDiesel]

Different vehicle same process. Same Injector.
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[josephc1]

Could be I just don't understand how to calculate and it's driving me crazy. I am trying to calculate how much distilled water to add to a 2-1/2 gallon jug or def that is 32.5% urea reducing urea to 20%. I know I will end up with more than 2-1/2 gallons. Help with the math please.

 

[TCDiesel]

Ram Cummins DEF Injector check, Same Injector different mounting flange.

 

[TCDiesel]

Could be I just don't understand how to calculate and it's driving me crazy. I am trying to calculate how much distilled water to add to a 2-1/2 gallon jug or def that is 32.5% urea reducing urea to 20%. I know I will end up with more than 2-1/2 gallons. Help with the math please.

The Math is not Critical Josephc1, DEF Is mixed by weight 32.5% you are adding by Volume 100% DW. Just to put you at ease I will pay $$$$ any issue's that your system develops even at 100% DW.

Also the residual left in tank is unknown... heck I've dumped 3 gallons DW at 1/2 tank levels already mixed with DW the concentrate had to be below 10%.

 

[josephc1]

The Math is not Critical Josephc1, DEF Is mixed by weight 32.5% you are adding by Volume 100% DW. Just to put you at ease I will pay $$$$ any issue's that your system develops even at 100% DW.

Also the residual left in tank is unknown... heck I've dumped 3 gallons DW at 1/2 tank levels already mixed with DW the concentrate had to be below 10%.

Thank you TCDiesel. This is all just experiment for my 2500 but I may run a 50/50 mix of def to dw. I don't expect any trouble much less any freezing here in Texas.

 

[jhenderson]

MotorCity Mechanic does a good job of explaining the diagnostics as well as the actual repair sequence. I’ve seen him get off course once or twice but for my money he’s the best there is at video demonstration for our trucks.

 

[TCDiesel]

Thank you TCDiesel. This is all just experiment for my 2500 but I may run a 50/50 mix of def to dw. I don't expect any trouble much less any freezing here in Texas.

You will NOT have Trouble, You will have Years of trouble free operation (anyone)...Worry free of DEF plugging, and at the end of the year you can Buy the Best steak Meal in Town with the Money saved on Retail DEF.

The EPA or Makers won't care what % you run, the Needed products are the most available on earth, N Nitrogen and H20.

Urea consists of carbon, nitrogen and oxygen, DW is H20 , highly purified, IMO Retail DW is filter better then DI. Because Bioclean does Business with the Maker of DW/DI I've seen the process of filtered DW/DI. DI cost less to produce.

So what are you really doing with YOUR DEF, adding already existing elements and compounds to mix with the NOx produced at combustion to lower NOx to near 0 PPM to meet the CAA COC.

 

[Newsa]

Here is a patent application by Volvo that says air pockets in def lines can be a troublesome air lock and not pump through the system that is designed to pump liquid.

https://patents.google.com/patent/WO2015153350A1/en

They clearly state that 32.5% def can dissolve crystalized def.

It appears to be a patent that allows the def system to work around and bleed air out of the lines.

It's my truck and i have added small quantities of water during periods of time where i did not drive many miles. But i don't plan on adding any DI water unless i suspect my def is experiencing water evaporation.

I also don't plan on running my DEF tank down to empty to get air in my def lines

 

[josephc1]

Yesterday I added 2 gallons of distilled water to my def tank. That makes 2 gallons and 1 pint of distilled water on top of the 2.5 gallons of def added last week. Gauge reads full now up from the 3/4 tank the def brought it to. Today we hook up to the 5th wheel and venture off on about a 1200 mile run for the next few days, we will see how this all works out. I'm going to carry my siphon pump and an extra gallon of supertech def. I will keep y'all posted of any issues that arise