thoughts on new tires for highway

[Ducman82]

Hey guys, i have a question. i have some 285/70/17 bfgs that i hate and need to be replaced. but im looking for tires that will wear great on pavement. i dont plan on doing andy offroading, but maybe a dirt road or two. i will be moving to NM this summer and have a long drive head of me. any thoughts? other then getting 22's and OTR tires?

 

[Grizzly]

My first choice would be Michelin followed by Toyo.



Where in New Mexico are you moving too? Bring water, we need it.

 

[AWise]

Toyo H/T or Nitto Dura Grapplers.

 

[amsoilman]

If you want them to "wear", get Michelen's! Toyo's won't wear well! I know as I have the Toyo's, and I barely have 32,000 on them and they are about shot!



Wayne

amsoilman

 

[DaveHess]

This is interesting as I am getting very close to needing tires. I have been contemplating tires that are more designed for straight highway use as mine sees no off-raod and the only dirt roads would be the ones in the KOA . We do get snow here but the truck sees very limited use in the winter months. Anyone have experience here they want to share???

 

[seafish]

If you want them to "wear", get Michelen's! Toyo's won't wear well! I know as I have the Toyo's, and I barely have 32,000 on them and they are about shot!



Wayne

amsoilman

There is no question that either the Toyo Open Country HT or AT, as well as the Michelin LTX AT2 are excellent tires.

They both get rave reviews for handling, stability and load rating.



Mileage, however, is another question.

I love my AT2's, but will hardly see 22,000 miles on them before they need changing.

I am at 20k right now and they are almost worn out. They are evenly worn out, but worn out nonetheless.

SBeretz, a TDR member, just bought the AT2's after complaining about the mileage he got on his Toyo AT. I am probably going to try the Toyo HT after being unsatisfied wth the mileage I am getting out of my Michelin AT2's.



Go figure?!?

In any case, Waynes 32k on his Toyos, needless to say, looks darn good to me, even though he is complaining about it!!!:-laf Wayne, which Toyo and what size are you running??



Heres a link to another thread-- also search for threads only using AT2 or Toyo and see what comes up.



https://www.turbodieselregister.com...sion-discussions/189691-michelin-ltx-at2.html

 

[amsoilman]

There is no question that either the Toyo Open Country HT or AT, as well as the Michelin LTX AT2 are excellent tires.

They both get rave reviews for handling, stability and load rating.



Mileage, however, is another question.

I love my AT2's, but will hardly see 22,000 miles on them before they need changing.

I am at 20k right now and they are almost worn out. They are evenly worn out, but worn out nonetheless.

SBeretz, a TDR member, just bought the AT2's after complaining about the mileage he got on his Toyo AT. I am probably going to try the Toyo HT after being unsatisfied wth the mileage I am getting out of my Michelin AT2's.



Go figure?!?

In any case, Waynes 32k on his Toyos, needless to say, looks darn good to me, even though he is complaining about it!!!:-laf Wayne, which Toyo and what size are you running??



Heres a link to another thread-- also search for threads only using AT2 or Toyo and see what comes up.



https://www.turbodieselregister.com...sion-discussions/189691-michelin-ltx-at2.html

I'm running the A/T LT285-70 R-17, and have used the "Balance Masters" from about 2,000 miles on the tires.



Wayne

amsoilman

 

[AWise]

Thats why i wish Tire Rack carried/posted Nitto and Toyo tires, so you can get a good view from a lot of people and not just one or two reports. My BFGs lasted 47k and were a decent tire, but I read others bashing them for poor mileage. Another posted getting 45-50k on the Dura Grapplers, and then someone complained that they only lasted 25k for them. I dont doubt their mileage claims I just wonder how many burnouts they didnt account for! :-laf



I just hope my new Toyo's go 40k, then I will be happy.

 

[rjrkihap]

Hey All,

I too have been searching for the magical tire that will last more than 25,000 miles. I've run the factory Michelin, Toyo M-55's, Wild Country, and BFG's. I've also run Toyo AT and HT on a couple gas rigs. The best life has to be the Toyo M-55 at 40,000 miles. The Toyo AT and Wild Country tires (both great tires on gas rigs) only lasted about 20,000 miles. I also rotate every 5,000 miles and constantly monitor tire pressure. I would love to know the secret of the guys getting 75,000 to 100,000 miles on a set of tires considering a new set of Toyo M-55s are over $1000.

Ron

 

[DaveHess]

I am still running my factory installed BFGs with 52,000 miles on the clock. They are getting "thin" but not down to wear belts yet. I did notice last winter that she just didn't bite into the snow like she used to. Might just be my imagination. I figure sometime in October or November I'll re-evalute my tire wear. They are wearing evenly with no indictaions of something amiss suspension wise. I rotate every second oil change (7,000 miles). This truck has a slight pull to the right but like I said, no unusual wear at all on any tire. Are the Toyo highway tires the M55s? At a grand I hope not!

 

[DWordinger]

No question in my mind. Michelin LTX A/T2. I put over 50,000 miles on the original LTX A/Ts and they still have lots of tread. I over inflate mine. Put 5 or 10 psi above what Dodge recommends. Don't go over the sidewall listed max pressures. If you have an infrared thermometer, add pressure until you get an even tread temperature from one edge to the other. The pressures Dodge recommends left he center of the tread cold.

 

[LBARTLETT]

I just ordered a set of the Toyo Open Country H/T Tuff Duty, they're supposed to be for diesel trucks, $840 out the door for 6 tires, I'll post a picture once I get them mounted and my new Waag kickouts mounted



I really wanted the new Hankook RF10 however no one could get them and no one could tell me how long it'd be, I looked at Nitto's, Transforce AT and all the Michelins and thought the Toyo's were the best bank for the $

 

[WAckerman]

I just ordered a set of the Toyo Open Country H/T Tuff Duty, they're supposed to be for diesel trucks, $840 out the door for 6 tires

Wow, thats a great deal compared to what I was getting from the local Les Schwab's here. They wanted $1140 and that wasn't including all the taxes, and by the way, that was for four... I was looking at the Toyo HT (not the tuff duty) in 285/70/17.



I got 41K out of the factory BFG's, and they still have tread left, but the sidewalls were cracking so bad I was afraid to drive it anymore. I ended up finding a set of factory take-off wheels, tires, lugs & caps for $200 for the four. I couldn't pass it up, even though I would have liked to have gone a size larger. I'd say the take-offs were at about half tread when I got them.

 

[abrankod]

I've been running Nitto Dura Grapplers on the rear 4 on my truck for the past 5k and they seem to be a great tire. Quiet on the highway and a great sidewall profile, nice and square, and so far absolutely minimal wear even with some pretty hard takeoffs. The OEM tires didnt even last 25k. My favorite part is that they're black on both sides, so rotating tires doesnt make the vehicle look silly or require remounting to keep the white text outside.

-Dan

 

[seafish]

I just ordered a set of the Toyo Open Country H/T Tuff Duty, they're supposed to be for diesel trucks, $840 out the door for 6 tires, I'll post a picture once I get them mounted and my new Waag kickouts mounted



I really wanted the new Hankook RF10 however no one could get them and no one could tell me how long it'd be, I looked at Nitto's, Transforce AT and all the Michelins and thought the Toyo's were the best bank for the $

WOW. . where did you get those from??? What size? GREAT price f!!!

 

[LBARTLETT]

Kelly Harris Tire, Athens, Texas 235/85R/16 load range E, no tax, farm use



I've always been able to beat the chain stores by finding good local tire shops, ordered today at noon, they'll be in by by 2:00 tomorrow, I'll get them mounted sometime this week, $140. 00 per tire mounted and balanced with no sales tax, disposal fee on any old tires I don't take is $3. 00 per, free rotation as long as I own the truck, I'm going to start having Kelly service my truck and when he puts the Rotella in I'll have him rotate every 5K miles



found some Hankook RF10's for $124. 00 at Ft. Benning when I was seeing my son but they could only get 4 and I needed 6, can't get them here yet, I guess they're so far behind they don't know when the availability will be and I can't wait any longer

 

[Royk]

I know a lot of guys swear by BFGs, but I ran them once and they wore out in a hurry. Never again. I'm a big fan of Michelins on a car, but not the truck; way too expensive. My favorite over the years has been Dunlop Radial Rover A/Ts. Nice mix of highway friendly tread, aggressive enough to plow snow, and they seem to last. Remarkably, Sears was they only place that had them in stock, and they were far cheaper than my favorite place for tires.



This past fall we got Continental Contacts for my wife's Toyota Sequoia (a glorified Tundra). I'm no fan of Continentals, but they had huge ratings from owners, and they were relatively inexpensive. I had to convince her to get them, but she loves them. She drives over a snow and ice covered mountain going to and from work and she was impressed. Can't speak about longevity yet though.

 

[Briman]

Two weeks ago I installed 285/75R17 E Nitto Durra Grapplers on my truck. Very round and smooth running, even with a static balance (weights on the inside only). On stock rims; one took 1/4 ounce, two took 1/2 ounce and the last one took 2 3/4 ounce (I always get a black sheep). They are reasonably quiet and very good in the rain. They have a load rating of 3970 @ 80 PSI. I am running 75 PSI all around. They are slower in steering response from the stock size I was running but I found they can be pushed hard into sweepers with a good feel and confidence. I got them off the internet. Dropped off in my drive way for $215 apiece. I have not calibrated my speedometer yet so I can't give MPG info. I can say that the rail pressure gauge is consistently higher so it must be taking more fuel. I looked at tires for a long time and this is the one I kept coming back to. Discount Tire has a couple reviews.

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[Regcabguy]

And your mileage is....

Tire mileage claims seem to vary with the wind. One factor is people like me remove the tire before the wear bar even shows,others leave them on until they reach "maypop" status. I'm going to get 35,000 easy miles out of these Toyo 285-75-17's. I bought them from a friend w/19,000 miles hauling a cabover 24/7, and have put on 6,000 more with my setup. The wearbars will not be showing,but they'll be three years old and I won't trust them anymore. Like all Toyos I've bought,minimal weight was needed to balance,"E" rated w/a huge load rating.

 

[ZBrooks]

Two weeks ago I installed 285/75R17 E Nitto Durra Grapplers on my truck. Very round and smooth running, even with a static balance (weights on the inside only). On stock rims; one took 1/4 ounce, two took 1/2 ounce and the last one took 2 3/4 ounce (I always get a black sheep). They are reasonably quiet and very good in the rain. They have a load rating of 3970 @ 80 PSI. I am running 75 PSI all around. They are slower in steering response from the stock size I was running but I found they can be pushed hard into sweepers with a good feel and confidence. I got them off the internet. Dropped off in my drive way for $215 apiece. I have not calibrated my speedometer yet so I can't give MPG info. I can say that the rail pressure gauge is consistently higher so it must be taking more fuel. I looked at tires for a long time and this is the one I kept coming back to. Discount Tire has a couple reviews.

I just put this same tire on my pickup and completely agree. A HUGE difference for the better vs. the 315/70's I had on before. They also come with a 45k mile warranty. Dummy mpg gauge says 21. 7, which is usually 19-20 for me on the highway.