Transfer Case Fluid color?

[AH64ID]

actually its quit simple. folks on the internet complicated it. theres one fluid for all 2500/3500 trucks with BW 44/46, 44/47, 44/48 (new HD version on HO cummins). its red and the mds specs are very near the same as atf+4.

From that aspect yes, it’s not a bit deal.

From the point of using 44-44 fluid in other than 44-44 transfer cases, and then putting 44-44 on both bottles they made it more confusing than it needs to be.

They should spec ATF for the HD trans and $$ BW fluid for the fancy 1500.

 

[JR]

the mds specs are very near the same as atf+4.

Please post both "mds specs".

 

[crazy jerry]

i believe it was ramforum someone posted it. probly the gen4 hd section. cant recall the exact thread but probly something similar to this one. didnt bother making any special note of the particular thread as i didnt realize theres so much confusion.
yes they could of labeled the bottle differently but beyond that its really nothing to be confused about

 

[James1]

actually its quit simple. folks on the internet complicated it. theres one fluid for all 2500/3500 trucks with BW 44/46, 44/47, 44/48 (new HD version on HO cummins). its red and the mds specs are very near the same as atf+4.

Actually my confusion was not caused by "folks on the internet" at all.

A couple of points:

• Two separate Ram dealerships (one in TN and one in GA) ran my VIN and their Mopar computers instructed me to utilize the clear stuff.
• The label on clear stuff says it is suitable for a 2017 BorgWarner 44-44 -- and both the 2017 Owner's Manual and the 2017 Owner's Manual Diesel Supplement clearly state: "We recommend you use Mopar BW44–44 Transfer Case Fluid."

This is a long way of saying Mopar is 100% to blame for this confusion.

BTW, you may be interested to learn I went back to the TN dealership yesterday to purchase the correct fluid and I asked the parts manager to rerun my VIN. Sure enough, the Mopar computer recommendation has now been corrected -- evidence of a tacit admission by Ma Mopar that she made a mistake...

 

[crazy jerry]

Actually my confusion was not caused by "folks on the internet" at all.

A couple of points:

• Two separate Ram dealerships (one in TN and one in GA) ran my VIN and their Mopar computers instructed me to utilize the clear stuff.
• The label on clear stuff says it is suitable for a 2017 BorgWarner 44-44 -- and both the 2017 Owner's Manual and the 2017 Owner's Manual Diesel Supplement clearly state: "We recommend you use Mopar BW44–44 Transfer Case Fluid."

This is a long way of saying Mopar is 100% to blame for this confusion.

BTW, you may be interested to learn I went back to the TN dealership yesterday to purchase the correct fluid and I asked the parts manager to rerun my VIN. Sure enough, the Mopar computer recommendation has now been corrected -- evidence of a tacit admission by Ma Mopar that she made a mistake...

i dont know what to say except for this: yes they could of and probly should of labeled the bottle different.
second thing, many employees at dealerships were working at mcdonalds, walmart or homedepot the week before. how much vehicle knowledge could they really have. to put all your faith in them is your own fault. do your own research. make your own decisions, based on common sense and good judgement.
in YOUR owners manual it says what fluid to use, along with the part# of said fluid

 

[James1]

i dont know what to say except for this: yes they could of and probly should of labeled the bottle different.
second thing, many employees at dealerships were working at mcdonalds, walmart or homedepot the week before. how much vehicle knowledge could they really have. to put all your faith in them is your own fault. do your own research. make your own decisions, based on common sense and good judgement.
in YOUR owners manual it says what fluid to use, along with the part# of said fluid

Over the years I have had many issues with car dealerships -- but this is not one of those issues.

Even if the employees at a dealership parts desk are not smart, they should be able to trust the Mopar computer -- and the computer fed these guys erroneous information, plain and simple. I would be suspicious except both guys (in two different states) were fed the same erroneous results.

Post #24 above shows the relevant pages from both my Owner's Manual and my Owner's Manual Diesel Supplement. I promise you there is no part number for this fluid supplied in either Manual. If you can find it in your Owner's Manual then please send me a copy of the page where it occurs. Mopar knows full well I have a BorgWarner 44-46 Transfer Case -- why they instruct me to use fluid for a BW 44-44 (in my Owner's Manual) is a mystery to me.

 

[bcbender]

Mopar knows full well I have a BorgWarner 44-46 Transfer Case -- why they instruct me to use fluid for a BW 44-44 (in my Owner's Manual) is a mystery to me.

Hahaha,. Yeah I was laughing the other day when I looked up the torque for the wheel after I put my flaps on..... they show the tightening sequence pictures for a 5 and 6 lug wheel in the OM and on the next page show the correct tq for cone and flat nuts. I flipped back to the cover to check and..it says 2500/3500HD... not sure how many have 5 & 6 lug but glad mine doesn't

I have had to review OM and service pubs in my job, people glaze over them and miss alot IMHO, I read them and find all kinds of issues many times with artwork at MMCs.. nobody's perfect but it is still amusing sometimes what slips through and gets missed by multiple checks in big corps...

 

[crazy jerry]

i was wrong. bw44-44 fluid part# isnt in the owners manual but rather the service manual. i had seen it many times in the service manual and aparently thought i seen it in owners manual also.
still im of the opinion its best to know what your buying, what fluids your dumping in etc. due diligence folks. you can make the argument the parts guy is supposed to know what hes doing and his computer shouldnt of been wrong but when you leave this stuff in someone elses hands you open yourself up to alot of greif

 

[Tuesdak]

Last OEM oil screw up I ran into was turned into a lemon law case. GM wanted to use all synthetic oil, but, the posi clutches required dyno oil. Several diff rebuilds later from clutches coming apart and several OEM oil spec changes later... Well GM finally figured it out, but, it cost them eating lots of shop queen lemons.

Generally, but, not always does the OEM get it right. The dead giveaway was looking up the Eaton Posi unit and seeing its oil requirements vs. GM’s all synthetic low maintenance push.