Triple LOK holds 1355 lb of torque

[KGoode]

1355 lb of torque and 597 hp out of a 24 valve on #2 only

1166 lb of torque and 505 hp out of a Power stroke #2 only



both of these #'s were in lockup with there new triple LOK, these are pretty good #'s especially for the 24 valve.



These #'s were taken off of a mustang 1750 dyno. If these #'s are correct they must be doing something right to these diesels.



Kevin

 

[CUMINNTSTRKN]

wow kevin where did they get those #'s. was it in co? i would love to talk to the guy that gets 600hp out of a vp-44 on just #2.





jim

 

[Sled Puller]

Must be SAE numbers, seem a bit high.



Gene

 

[Diesel Freak]

Dude, where did you get those 'shrooms? I want to smoke some!

 

[csutton7]

Cumminntstrkn--that's a 12v that made those #'s--

what could be more impressive is the p-stroke doing 505hp--I'm not sure they've ever hit that high on just ol' #2---I'm a little skeptical, about the pherd #--I'm going to post this over on the D-C site and see what the pherd boyz say-----chris

 

[CUMINNTSTRKN]

chris



it say's 24 valve, i hope it's true becuase that gives me hope.



jim

 

[JConley]

with thoughts of this thread turning into another tc war... I post this with the hopes that this thread becomes informative, rather than a :-{} contest.



For what it is worth, last week while on vacation in Colorado, I took a day and went to ATS to check out the tripple lock TC. From someone that has done the "touchy feeley" and looked at the TC, I honestly do believe the TC will hold this torque. The guys at ATS spend hours with me explaining all the design features as well as answering numerous questions from me. From someone who is not a transmission guy, it took me at least an hour and a half just to figure out how this system works. The tripple lock goes against all conventional ways of standard TC's and for that, the info ATS puts out is not taken seriously. In the old days, steel used to be an experimental metal, and therefore they wouldnt build bridges out of the stuff. Just because something is new doesnt mean it isnt good.



This TC has a lot of engineering that went into it, and if you go to ATS, you will be as impressed with the workmanship as I was. For those that doubt these numbers, I recommend that you open your minds, and take the time to investigate this before writing it off.



As far as the HP numbers. . I have no idea.





... . hitting the submit buttton with flame suit on standby... ...

 

[KatDiesel]

I know Eric McBride was supposed to dyno before getting rid of his 5 speed... but we all know hes a 12v.



If it was a 24v WITH a VP44 I would like to know more as well.

 

[Sled Puller]

My post had nothing to do with transmissions, but everything to do with dynos and their operation... ... ... and their shortcomings.

 

[Strick-9]

That's great, but there are single disk lockup TC's holding 1404 ft lbs of torque over in Vegas.



I still haven't figured out why we need three when one can work so well. But congratulations anyways. Those are impressive numbers.



-Chris

 

[KGoode]

I don't know how accurate the dyno was, but they did have print outs for each run.



Kevin

 

[RottnDogue]

Originally posted by KGoode

I don't know how accurate the dyno was, but they did have print outs for each run.



Kevin

Print outs... Hey Kat you got some print outs too don't ya?

 

[Diesel Freak]

My question:



What did they do to the input shaft to make it hold that much torque?

 

[LSMITH]

WOW!!!!! Great numbers and held in lockup is a good thing. If it will hold 1350+ the measly 750 or so that most of us will be hard pressed to throw at it will be a cake walk. The guys at ATS know something or they would not give the warranty that they do on TC's and trannies. If in doubt call them. I am going to call them again to see what they are doing to make the power as I am curious too. I would dearly love to make some more power without the high EGT of a wire tap box.

 

[LSMITH]

DF, in prior conversations with them they mentioned billet and cryo (maybe even billet cryo treated but don't quote me on that) input and output shafts. You have a 6 speed though right? Are you thinking auto or doubting the claim?



To all the others that posted negatively: Why? Simple question, just have to ask why the negative posts without qualificaton?

 

[csutton7]

cumminntstrkn---oooppps on my part I was reading the sig ---my fault---ok so now i'm skeptical of the cummins # also----chris

 

[Diesel Freak]

1355 lb of torque and 597 hp out of a 24 valve on #2 only



you bet your butt I am doubting the claim... . the only times I have seen anything close to those numbers with a 24 valve were with Bully Dog 5's, a PE Comp on 5x5, a B-1 Bomber... . WITH PROPANE AND NITROUS... and even then I think his Chryo'd input shaft may part company with him soon.



We all know that Mustang Dyno's are brutal on the driverain..... more so than a Dynojet..... how close was the engine to meltdown during the run?

 

[csutton7]

isn't there the formula of hp x 2. 15 = torque just to check and see if everything is in sync----I'm pretty sure this is it and if so these #'s are off----597 hp should = 1284# of torque----I think we have some funny #'s here---someone hasn't set up the dyno right or did something to punch out those #'s---and the pherd #'s are like almost a 80 hp over what anyone has done on #2 previously----but maybe on the other hand it's true---I'm not biting hard yet-----chris

 

[Diesel Freak]

HP=(TqxRPM)/5252 gives instantaneous figures with respect to RPM.



hmmm I wonder if we are seeing Flywheel figures, and not rear wheel figures like we are accustomed to seeing?



rear wheel numbers could be close to 470HP, and1080 FTxLBF



What was the weight of the vehicle as entered on the dyno?



What RPM's were the peak torque and HP?



Were Parasitic Losses calculated before the dyno runs?

 

[CUMINNTSTRKN]

well guys i talked with don, and he said they backed up the #'s several times on the dyno. he is going to re dyno it to make sure. he might even try to get over to a dyno-jet to see how they compare. he said these were corrected #'s but never the less those are damn good #'s.



i guess i have to go back to the drawing board. to keep ahead of these guys the competition is what makes this so much fun.



jim