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ok, a lil background info. I'm 24, working as a sysadmin. Salary, the equivalent of about $21 an hour. Pretty decent money but I just don't enjoy my work at all. The only thing I like about it is that I'm in an air conditioned office all day... but it's so boring, and I get no satisfaction out of it.



I'm thinking of switching career paths, doing some form of skilled labor. not necessarily today because I can't really afford a paycut, but once I get some of the toys paid off and can afford somewhat of a paycut (as long as it's something that I can work my way up to at least as much as I'm making now, preferably a good bit more). If I can get something starting at about $15 an hour, and making more like $25 or so in a few years, I'd be fine with that.



My grandfather was a mechanic, and I considered that for a while, but that's a hobby of mine, and I really think doing it for a living would kinda burn me out... like after doing it for 8+ hours, I'm not gonna wanna come home and work on my car or truck. I wouldn't mind doing something that would be useful in my off time though, like say welding. There's already been quite a few times I coulda had a much easier time on an automotive project if I could weld.



So... what are some ideas I could look into? Starting $15ish an hour, eventually (but not taking too long) making 25 or 30 (or more of course). Year-round work, nothing seasonal. Home every night... not on the road for days/weeks/months at a time. Or home every morning if I'm stuck working evenings for a while... whatever... just not something where I'll be away from home for long periods. Reasonably steady 40 hour week, or 40 + OT. Nothing where it's 15 hours this week, 70 hours next week, and you can't plan ahead financially because you have no idea what you're gonna make.



I know there's alotta blue collar skilled labor type people on this board (it kinda goes hand in hand with the 3/4 or 1 ton diesel pickup ;)). Care to share advice or experiences?
 
IF you want to burn off some energy, mabe you could buy a fix up property and fix it up to sell. If you really want to burn some energy, fix it up to rent. Then you get to fix it up every time you get a new tenant. You get to learn carpentry, plumbing, painting, electrical, and how to sue and get sued for fun and profit. :(

Seriously , if you do this, get a small house to start with. Less cost for materials and it gets done faster. All landlords complain about their lot, but it has been a good second income for me ,and the tax breaks are tremendous.
 
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Man-ho, some travel may be required



Fireman



Drafter, my line of work. Pay isn't where you want to be unless you work for yourself, then it's much better.



Bridge inspector, another thing I've done. It's an adventure that has you home on the weekends.
 
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Not blue collar but,

I don't know what you're into but with your qualifications GIS (geographic information systems) might be interesting field to get into. Gives you a chance to work outdoors much of the time but also have inside work when the weather is crummy and pays top dollar. A lot of GIS techs are being hired for mapping by environmental restoration and consulting firms that clean up and restore to native some of the messes we've made in our time here on this continent.



more info http://www.gis.com/
 
I think a surveyor is the best job there is. Those guys/gals get to tie up traffic and stand around holding their pole all day acting nonchalant.



Doc
 
Originally posted by Doc Tinker

Those guys/gals get to ... . stand around holding their pole all day acting nonchalant.



Doc





Wonder how they manage to get anything done ?????????????







:D :D :D :D



big jake



THE FORD GUY!!!!!!!!
 
tpc said: "Man-ho"



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My vote is for welding. If I get canned from my present line of work - I'll be putting my new TIG and plasma machines to use a lot more than I do now.



Matt
 
what's a typical starting wage for a welder? what about after a few years on the job? Is that typically an 8 hour 5 day job, or long/irregular hours? And of course, about how long does it prolly take from the day you start training (technical school or whatever I assume) til the day you have a full time job?



Not sure exactly what I'd be into, I just know I don't wanna do underwater welding, it scares me ;)



Can any welders share any info or experiences?
 
suggest adult night schools trade programs to learn basic trade and get an idea if it something interesting to you. . most are free to residents and are through the high school system
 
I know that welding apprenticeships pay didlee-squat... . but once you become a licensed journeyman - the pay would be at least comparable to what you're earning now... probably more.



I have learned a lot by asking questions (LOTS of them... ) and applying what I have read/heard to my time in the garage with my welding equip.



I went from birdcrap welding with an AC buzzbox to TIG welding soft copper pipe together in a matter of a month or so. Takes a lot of practice, but is it ever fun..... and challenging.



Matt
 
I've been reading up a lil bit (on the net at the job I hate :))... looks like carpenters make pretty good money... even $15+ as an apprentice... I'm sure there's plenty of overtime to be had too. Only problem is it's "weather permittin'" work. Looks like I'd need somethin else to do in the winter...



Besides sitting in an air conditioned office all day, the only other thing I really like about my current job is I'm done at 4 every day and don't do weekends... I can always easily make it to test n tune nights and that kinda thing... prolly wouldn't be quite as easy if I was putting in 12 hour days framing houses or whatever...
 
My Dad is a retired carpenter. He offered his "son" his business but that kid was to stoopid at the time to take him up on it. Here's what he always told me: Framing tends to be seasonal depending on where you live - but the real money is in finish carpentry like cabinets & furniture type stuff. You can work for yourself and even have an airconditioned shop if you have the right dust filtering equipment. Depending on your state requirements, you may not even need to be licensed. Just hang a shingle on the building and your in business.
 
Why not keep moving up through the IT trade? If you focus on something like Network Security, routers and switches etc, hell even Windows NT servers, you will make more money.



As far as the boring part, I feel anything you do all day, day after day can get boring. I figure I have to go to work to afford the fuel to get to work, plus the food, family, home, etc, etc. Why not make more money, and get a more expensive hobbie that will keep you interested.



Take my hobbie of Dirt Bikes, I enjoy it, Its better then kicking the dog, but it cost a couple dollars if you really get in to it. Plus It helps to have a place to ride close to you. My job can be real boring, but I always look forward to the evenings and weekends because there my time. If your job pays enough, you don't end up working evenings and weekends trying to make ends meet, Overtime can really eat up your "personal" time.



Don't worry, your just going through your first mid life crisis, you will get over it. Wait until you get married and have a kid, your goals will change again.









Originally posted by jrusko

ok, a lil background info. I'm 24, working as a sysadmin. Salary, the equivalent of about $21 an hour. Pretty decent money but I just don't enjoy my work at all. The only thing I like about it is that I'm in an air conditioned office all day... but it's so boring, and I get no satisfaction out of it.
 
Excellent post, TowPro, that says it ! Got to say though, in my case, there are only two trades I've never, ever gotten bored or tired of. One is wrenching on cars and trucks, and the other is electrical construction. I LOVE electrical work, and have never been tired of it, even after 15 years and earning a master's license. It's very satisfying, in some ways even more so than working on cars. The main difference for me is the end results: You can't run the 1/4 mile with an electrical installation, gotta have that speed fix! :D
 
In your neck of the woods, a welder might be pressed into service thawing out frozen pipes. How does sitting out in subzero weather watching your equipment for twelve hours a day, mustly in darkness, appeal to you?



Doc
 
Hands down the best trade would be Bounty Hunter. Hook up with a good bail bondsman and you could be making lots of dough.



I'm sure it would be quite exciting work. :D
 
Join the Army National Guard. Be a sysadmin during the day, and get to play with tanks on the weekends. You also get automatic weapons, and free all expence paid trips to all the worst places on earth where people want to kill you. Hey... you are the one looking for excitement :D



Before you decide. Rent the movie "In the ARMY now" with Pauley Shore. You have no idea how many things in that movie can come true.



Seriously... It is a good part time job that breaks the monotony of life.
 
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