Where did you get your average? I LOVE how you're trying to rewrite history with a description of symptoms you never included before. But guess what? I've seen those EXACT same symptoms on those injectors I CAN'T FIX by flushing them. Did you think we're flushing injectors on engines that are running FINE? Not so much. They can have anything from an intermittent off-and-on "flutter" to a FUEL KNOCK because they're "failed" and injecting TOO MUCH fuel compared to the others. It only takes a 2 or 3% difference in delivery from the others to make a NOTICEABLE difference. At least to a TRAINED EAR. But I'm glad to see you're once again REPEATING what I've already said and trying to use it to prove me wrong. Because I mentioned those EXACT SAME injector issues when I said that THOSE ISSUES do NOT mean an injector has failed. I'm SURE you already know this, but a FAILED injector will SET A CODE. In fact, it's possible for EACH injector to set 2 or 3 different codes depending on what's wrong with it. And do you know what? I can connect to the machine, enter diagnostic tests and do a FEW different test to DIAGNOSE the failure. I can cut out injectors and look at engine speed and load data AND fuel flow to determine which injector is the problem AND I can run an engine misfire test where the ECU cuts out an injector each time I run the throttle to high idle and back. What does THAT do? It tells me how much each injector is contributing to engine performance UNDER LOAD. Are you starting to realize that this is only going to get worse the longer you refuse to just leave me alone? I don't know what your problem with me is but I really think you should get over it and try to ENJOY your time here rather than waste it on some misguided quest to prove me wrong or run me off or whatever it is you're trying to do. It doesn't really matter because you're going to fail. Believe me, I have NO problem with being wrong and it happens all the time. I can deal with it. REAL mechanics can. And I also have no intention whatsoever of letting a couple of cyber-stalkers with burrs in their butts and a hard-on for someone they don't even know, run me off a discussion forum I paid to join. And I'll let you in on a little secret. I have NO problem sinking down to YOUR level and I will enjoy every minute of it. I can start searching your comments and lighting you up on PROBABLY every one of them if you don't have anything better than you've showed me so far. I used to hang out on the YT tractor forums and when a bunch of us that tended to "disagree" finally got sick of being censored by the moderators there, we just started our own "bashing board" where literally ANYTHING was fair game and THAT was the most interesting, entertaining and EDUCATIONAL board I've EVER been on. It was a bunch of farmers and mechanics and gearheads just letting it fly and beyond some loose "guidelines" about not involving family and such, which were unneeded anyway, there was no mercy. And all we talked about was tractors, cars, trucks, etc. And I'll tell you right now were PLENTY of guys smarter than you that left that board and never came back after a day or two. They saw "tractor bashing board" and thought they were really going to be able to use their "knowledge" to kick some discussion forum @ss. It didn't work, and we could tell by there responses that they were almost crying as they typed them. So if you want a "flame war", I'm your huckleberry.