Wow....this is crazy.

[GroundSquirrel]

The guy in the truck is stacking it the wrong way.....

He's loading hay just like I do in my truck, and just like everyone else does

 

[GroundSquirrel]

Violation list is unreal, plus it looks like he suffers from a language barrier. Maybe hiring a driver from the home depot parking lot is bad

• Felony reckless driving
• No valid driver's license
• Unsafe vehicle
• Obstruction of justice
• Failure to obey traffic light
• Fail to obey traffic device
• No record of duty status
• Motor carrier permit required
• No medical certificate
• Operating a CMV without a CDL
• Driver must be able to understand traffic signals
• No fuel tax permit
• IRO apportioned tag/reg violation
• No USDOT/carrier name displayed
• Inoperative/defective Brakes
• Inspection repair and maintenance (2 counts)
• Wheel fasteners loose and missing (2 counts)
• Required brakes missing on trailer
• Loose or unfastened tiedown
• Damaged vehicle structures and pressure points

 

[AH64ID]

He's loading hay just like I do in my truck, and just like everyone else does

It’s not how anyone I know stacks it, thou it’s close. The bottom bales are 90° to how they should be. If you roll them so they are taller you get a flatter stack on the upper bales, which puts less strain on them.

 

[NIsaacs]

Spec's on the boat. It is bigger than it looks.

RIVA
Rivarama
SPECS
Year 2003
LOA 44'0"
Beam 12'9"
Draft 3'11"
Fuel Capacity (In Gallons) 370
Standard Power2/700-hp MAN D2876LE401 diesel inboards
Optional Power none
Controls ZF/Mathers electronic
Weight 34178 pounds
Steering BSC hydraulic power-assisted

 

[NIsaacs]

This is what makes this avoidable accident even worse. Not to mention, miles of flat sagebrush desert.

 

[JR]

No habla ingles!

 

[chazj]

This is what makes this avoidable accident even worse. Not to mention, miles of flat sagebrush desert.

The first runaway ramp is a few miles further up the highway also. It's approach seems to be on a more "level plane" compared to this last chance before arriving at intersection below.

 

[GroundSquirrel]

It’s not how anyone I know stacks it, thou it’s close. The bottom bales are 90° to how they should be. If you roll them so they are taller you get a flatter stack on the upper bales, which puts less strain on them.

Our western state bales are 150lbs plus sometimes, and are much larger in weight and size. Everyone else strings up bales that weigh on average 80lbs.

I have a longbed truck with a full size chest tool box. I regularly stack 20 bales in my pickup and never tie them down, nor have I ever lost a bale....we maybe one or two here and there. I've tried various ways of stacking hay with a regular pickup bed and there is no other configuration on planet earth that will carry 16-20 150lb bales of hay securely

LOL, never worried about straining my hay bales but I guess I'll have to Google that now

 

[AH64ID]

I load 90-120lb bales in my truck in a similar fashion, up to 26 some years, and after 60 miles of rough dirt roads I can tell you that orientation of the bottom bales makes a huge difference in how the upper bales handle those roads. If the bottom bales are the “short” way the upper bales begin to break apart where they contact the bed rails, but if stacked on their side they don’t. I also have to tie them down or they will vibrate to one side or the other, even tied down they move some.

 

[gsbrockman]

If the bottom bales are the “short” way the upper bales begin to break apart where they contact the bed rails, but if stacked on their side they don’t.

This....
My Dad purchased new a 1974 FoMoCo F-100 2wd long bed.

When harvesting hay, we would put four bales on their side near the headboard, three on their side between the wheel wells, and four on their side with the tailgate down......you know, the tailgate that had actual collapsible metal bars for the tailgate supports when lowered.

Many, many times we could get 53 bales of standard square size bales on the truck, and it rode well.

 

[NIsaacs]

This....
My Dad purchased new a 1974 FoMoCo F-100 2wd long bed.

When harvesting hay, we would put four bales on their side near the headboard, three on their side between the wheel wells, and four on their side with the tailgate down......you know, the tailgate that had actual collapsible metal bars for the tailgate supports when lowered.

Many, many times we could get 53 bales of standard square size bales on the truck, and it rode well.

Those were babies probably 14"x16"x36" 50-60# two string. Standard 3 string are 18"x22"x48" 100-120#

In the late 60's ranchers paid $5 a day for a ranch hand. When we contracted out to stack hay, we got 5 cents a bale. I was usually on the stack @ 2cents per bale, the tractor/loader got 3 cents. We could do 2000 bales a day, so $100, we were pooping in tall cotton

Sometimes we would stack hay on shares. My first hay hauling truck was a 1940 chevy 1/2 ton short bed with a homemade 6'x6' flatbed and a homemade single axle trailer 6'x8', I would haul a ton on each and go for it

 

[gsbrockman]

Those were babies probably 14"x16"x36" 50-60# two string. Standard 3 string are 18"x22"x48" 100-120#

I was 10 years old in 1974. I didn’t do half bad tossing those “babies” around.

 

[Cummins12V98]

I had a 69 Ranger F100 and if it had 53 bails the only suspension would have been the tires.

 

[slowmover]

Our western state bales are 150lbs plus sometimes, and are much larger in weight and size. Everyone else strings up bales that weigh on average 80lbs.

I have a longbed truck with a full size chest tool box. I regularly stack 20 bales in my pickup and never tie them down, nor have I ever lost a bale....we maybe one or two here and there. I've tried various ways of stacking hay with a regular pickup bed and there is no other configuration on planet earth that will carry 16-20 150lb bales of hay securely

LOL, never worried about straining my hay bales but I guess I'll have to Google that now

General rule of thumb is that the operator has been unconscionable in disregarding the effect on other drivers should his load come loose at any time and in any fashion. A rollover is no exception.

Truckstops (not all) carry a handy spiral manual on LOAD SECUREMENT. Basics will be found there.

When I hauled alfalfa bales from Colorados’ San Luis Valley down to a Texas dairy operation on a 45’ x 96” flatbed, the open load (not tarped) had straps across every bale at top; bales were staggered.

The show of Good Faith is important.

There’s not much one can do to “tighten” such a load. V-bars and carpet scraps spread the force somewhat, but baled hay just won’t accept much.

Needless to say, one stops every fifty miles (okay, an hour) to inspect the load. The trust by the vehicle operator in those loading the trailer needs to be high. It won’t pay to re-work such a load if it loses “structural rigidity”. It’s a loss. And now you must dispose of it in a safe, accepted manner.

Your state may have COMMERCIAL VEHICLE ENFORCEMENT officers on the road. They work with the scale houses. That’s your best in-state authority. (State next door is worth asking about; the officer will know if regulations differ).

These days I think I’d tarp the top of the load. Let the straps (with devices) be more resistant to sinking or sliding. But I’d have to ask FIRST if that genius idea is relevant.

Back to the statement: Pipe, re-bar, steel coils, etc can all be difficult to secure (and keep that way). Had one old grizzled giant of a Safety Director tell us he flew out to inspect a rollover, we’d be flying back home sans airplane that load came loose. And he’d be lending granpaps Colt SAA to “surviving” family members if it came to that.

.

 

[slowmover]

 

[Tuesdak]

Also did not take the runaway truck ramp(s).

The Colorado truck driver involved in a pileup that killed four and injured six on an interstate in 2019 got emotional when he addressed the court before receiving a sentence of 110 years in prison.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/colorado...p-gets-110-years-gets-emotional-at-sentencing

 

[NIsaacs]

B52 on it's way from the Pima Air Museum, Tucson to some place in Oklahoma. Going through Show Low today. If I knew when I would try to watch it. Not sure why they are traveling at night.

 

[SnoKing]

https://www.fox10phoenix.com/news/d...ber-on-the-move-from-arizona-to-oklahoma-city

https://www.wpafb.af.mil/News/Artic...esearch-modernization-and-innovation-efforts/

 

[GroundSquirrel]

Is that a wood framed interior on that old plane?

 

[SnoKing]

Is that a wood framed interior on that old plane?

NO