Guns, Bows, Shooting Sports, and Hunting Nra

[The patriot]

I think the east coast has it just as bad as the west coast with firearm laws.

IMO NJ is worse than Cali in many ways.

 

[RVTRKN]

I'll agree with that, didn't they proscecute some one while moving to NJ and got pulled over for possession, and it wasn't readily assessable. It was packed away?

 

[KATOOM]

IMO NJ is worse than Cali in many ways.

I'll agree with that, didn't they proscecute some one while moving to NJ and got pulled over for possession, and it wasn't readily assessable. It was packed away?

Wow.....I didnt think any place could be more back-azzward about guns than California. Good to know.....

 

[The patriot]

Yea, if you're traveling with a gun, best to avoid it.
idk about that particular case. Lots of ***-hattery in relation to firearms here. Cant buy BB guns w/o a full NCIS check.....black powder also I believe.
There was a woman from Pa that had a CCW and made the mistake of going over the border and telling the NJ cop she has a pa ccw........ she was (I believe) pardoned.
Just stay away. I've lived here my entire life and I cant make any sense of the gun laws.
I theorize they're purposefully written that way in order to discourage ownership. But that's jm.02
I hope the new POTUS will do something about nation wide CCW recognition. Regular people cant get one here. Retired police & politically connected only.
Not to mention opening up the 86 machine gun register and Bush's import ban.

 

[KATOOM]

Sad.....that we live amongst people who fail to realize that we all have the right to protect ourselves from others who want to harm us. With crime rates approaching the stratosphere, cops are too busy to help and cant get to you in time to offer any protection either.

When I hear things like the Levi Strauss CEO announcing that no guns are allowed in their stores, making the statement "you dont need a gun to try on a pair of jeans"..... I can only think that criminals who've ever thought of shooting innocent people will remember that they're safe to shoot without worrying about return fire from those Levi's shoppers/employees. Liberals have the stuuuuupidest logic ever.

 

[Deleted member 995608]

Liberals have the stuuuuupidest logic ever.

and Katoom takes the lead for a win

 

[Wayne M.]

and Katoom takes the lead for a win

Also to keep in mind is that certain locales have a whole other layer of regs. E.G. In NYState you have the NYSAFE act which is barbaric- then if you come to where I am- NYC there's a whole nother layer. A handgun holder ok in NYS can't bring that into NYC. Same for all weapons unless you have NYPD paper like I have. You can't believe the hoops I go through just to keep a rifle/ shotgun card. You can forget about getting a pistol card as its tougher than buying a house. The store I go to an hour north of the city takes real pity on us city dudes.

 

[Deleted member 995608]

Hi Wayne.... the NYSAFE act looks similar to Ca laws. For AR's, if you keep it what we call 'featureless' , do you still have to register? I clicked the "Do I have to register" on the NYSAFE site and when I went through paces. It seems as long as it's featureless, it stays off the radar.

I also saw where they made an amendment to the 7 round rule. Looks like they discovered that a standard 7 round cap magazine doesn't exist, and now allows 10 round mags to be sold, but can only legal load 7 rounds in it. Still sucks.

 

[Joseph Donnelly]

NRA isn't perfect, but...I paid for life memberships last year for my 3 children.

 

[The patriot]

I'm a life member, as are my 3 brothers.

 

[p-Bar]

Hi Wayne.... the NYSAFE act looks similar to Ca laws. For AR's, if you keep it what we call 'featureless' , do you still have to register? I clicked the "Do I have to register" on the NYSAFE site and when I went through paces. It seems as long as it's featureless, it stays off the radar.

I also saw where they made an amendment to the 7 round rule. Looks like they discovered that a standard 7 round cap magazine doesn't exist, and now allows 10 round mags to be sold, but can only legal load 7 rounds in it. Still sucks.

If it's featureless then it is no longer an assault weapon and you won't need to register it this is for Cali

 

[Wayne M.]

Hi Wayne.... the NYSAFE act looks similar to Ca laws. For AR's, if you keep it what we call 'featureless' , do you still have to register? I clicked the "Do I have to register" on the NYSAFE site and when I went through paces. It seems as long as it's featureless, it stays off the radar.

I also saw where they made an amendment to the 7 round rule. Looks like they discovered that a standard 7 round cap magazine doesn't exist, and now allows 10 round mags to be sold, but can only legal load 7 rounds in it. Still sucks.

There is a NYSAFE compliant AR but as I stated, in NYC it's 5 rounds.

Here's a NY compliant AR. Start laughing now but someone has a fertile mind.

https://www.mgi-military.com/store/index.php?product_id=117&type=&category=10

In NYC, the NYPD has jurisdiction on all firearm activity. They're very nice to deal with.

http://www.nyc.gov/html/nypd/html/firearms_licensing/rifle_licensing_information.shtml

 

[jhenderson]

If that represents " New Yorks Finest" I'd hate to see their worst.

 

[TJJEEPER]

NRA Junk mail...
You can call NRA and they will put a note on your membership to not send the requests for more money.
It works! I've been a member for a long time, let it lapse for a year and at the local Sports and Boat show they had a booth. Told them why I let it lapse, tired of seeing my dues used up sending me requests for more money, and they told me about this.
I get about one or two extra mailings a year now instead of one a month.

 

[BIGNASTY]

HA HA HA

Another one that people JUST DONT GET!!!!

The NRA is just like a Union You Pay your dues and Receive NOTHING


GET IT NOTHING!!!!

 

[Dan_69GTX]

Sorry, BIGNASTY - wrong.

As mentioned earlier, you can get a pen!

(sorry, couldn't resist that).

On the serious side, you get what you put into it, just like any club. If you want to use their services, you can. If you just want to pay dues so you can be a "member", you can. If you want to pay dues so they can hopefully get legislation enacted that you approve of, you can.

They also send out magazines that you might be interested in - they have several.

Just like this club, you get out of it what you are willing to put into it.

So, no, not like a Union at all....from my point of view and experiences with Unions.

 

[BIGNASTY]

Sorry, BIGNASTY - wrong.

As mentioned earlier, you can get a pen!

(sorry, couldn't resist that).

On the serious side, you get what you put into it, just like any club. If you want to use their services, you can. If you just want to pay dues so you can be a "member", you can. If you want to pay dues so they can hopefully get legislation enacted that you approve of, you can.

They also send out magazines that you might be interested in - they have several.

Just like this club, you get out of it what you are willing to put into it.

So, no, not like a Union at all....from my point of view and experiences with Unions.

Well im going to cry and complain, stomp my feet about your BULLING TACTICS :-laf

Must be some residual crybaby leftover from my incarceration in Commiefornia

SORRY

 

[Tractorat]

They passed some new guns laws here in wash state a year or 2 ago. Among them was that now, if you (a private citizen) sell a gun, you have do get an official background check on the buyer. If you loan a gun to someone, you are both guilty of a felony. The nra did absolutely nothing to try to defeat these new laws. I think a lot of folks here in wash ended their membership after that.

 

[BIGNASTY]

They passed some new guns laws here in wash state a year or 2 ago. Among them was that now, if you (a private citizen) sell a gun, you have do get an official background check on the buyer. If you loan a gun to someone, you are both guilty of a felony. The nra did absolutely nothing to try to defeat these new laws. I think a lot of folks here in wash ended their membership after that.

The Two items that you mentioned SHOULD BE DONE!!

Selling your gun to Joe Blow without any kind of check is NUTS how do criminals get guns? Well that sounds to me like a very good way.

Loaning a gun to someone should be wrong, if he commits a crime you should be held accountable right along with him for lending your piece. Just like the unfortunate Kids that find daddy's gun and either takes it to school or shoots himself with it the Registered owner should be accountable.

I cant find anything wrong with being responsible with guns.

 

[HHhuntitall]

Dang, Big, I think there's more Commifornia left in you than you realize.... I disagree. If I want to sell a gun to my brother, some of those laws prevent that. And if you sell a gun to a felon, you become a felon. That's a CURRENT law to keep people from doing just that. The restriction on free commerce won't stop with just guns, once they get them banned. Then you'll be liable for cars people use to run over someone else. Then you'll have to start doing driving record checks on people before you can sell them your car. Sound like a far fetched idea?!? So did background checks on guns 50 years ago.... As a gunowner, just as a car owner, you should be responsible for your property. And if you want to look at your data (notice I'm not quoting "statistics"), most criminals get guns by being criminals. They steal them, or buy them from people who stole them. Over 90% of guns used in violent crimes are stolen. FBI and Texas DPS case studies document where the guns are purchased. They want them off the streets, too. But plaquing law-abiding citizens is NOT the way to do it. At least in my opinion..... I don't have many felons that I hang out with and would sell any guns to, anyway.

As for loaning a gun to someone, how are you responsible for that persons actions??! What if you loan your car to someone, and they hit and run in your car?!? Or take your framing hammer to town and hit a cop on the head?!?! What about a barstool on the back porch?!? I call B.S. on that!! A person should be accountable for their own actions. If I write a hot check, I have to pay for it. If I run a stop sign and get a ticket, I have to pay for it. If I fall down on the sidewalk and bust my head open, how is it the city's fault for not keeping the sidewalk on the ground?!?!

And as for children getting your guns, you ALREADY ARE RESPONSIBLE for that firearm, and if it ends up in the hands of a minor, you are in deep political promises. Current Federal Law. It's our responsibility as gun owners to keep them safe from children's hands.... I'll agree there, to a certain point. But that's why most firearms are sold with "Child Protection Locks".

And I hear the argument that most criminals buy guns at gun shows. Gun shows, you say? Well, considering convicted felons aren't allowed to be in a gun show by law, they are yet again breaking the law if they enter the premises, not that that surprises anyone. Can they do it? Yes. Do they? Very few. As in less than 1%. And why is that? Considering the number of law enforcement officers in gun shows, from browsing in attendance, working security, and either trading/selling guns, there is a very highly probability that criminals will be recognized from the week/month before or incident reports. Especially violent criminals with repeat offenses.

And the NRA... :sigh: While not what it once was, it does still have some viability for the member, and is certainly not a flaccid members Union. As an avid competitor, they regulate many competitions across the country, setting the rules for competition, sponsoring events, and often helping new ranges and local shoots draw shooters/customers. They also have a decent base of merchants who compete for your business in aspects besides guns, such as insurance, banking, internet servers, lodging, events, non-gun merchandise, and email services.... all gun friendly. The legislative branch of the NRA, and the ILA, often help people who have key cases in local legal courts, helping set precedence for higher courts and future rulings. Their lobbying is essential, as ill as I view it. Because if they aren't wining and dining the asswipes in Washington, the Brady Bunch will be. It's a very effective lobbyist group, solely for the reason there are so many members. And people who can't get their way (liberals and demoRats) hate the NRA, claiming it as an evil lobbyist group..... basically upholding our constitutional rights.... hardly evil in my opinion.... As another opinion, the gag order placed on the NRA the weeks preceding the election are a violation of our first amendment rights as members of the NRA.... but that's just how far the left side has gone to try to choke the middle class who can still speak up.....