What is considered "frequent trailer towing"

[Cummins12V98]

What % of fluid have you changed in your AS69RC.....

Working on that one. I have info I won’t divulge on here.

 

[Cummins12V98]

Your memory is short. We already went through this once several months ago....you said you didn't recall transengineer saying that, then gsbrockman found the actual thread where he stated this. You forgot again?

Post what he said since you are saying it’s so.

 

[Cummins12V98]

Still waiting on a black and white specifically saying just the pan.

It says change fluid. NOT part of it.

 

[gsbrockman]

Post what he said since you are saying it’s so.

Retention of a moth......
https://www.turbodieselregister.com...ed-ram-3500-pickup.251263/page-2#post-2492205

Working on that one. I have info I won’t divulge on here.

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[Cummins12V98]

He said he would not run it til it sputters, I take that as a CYA statement and understand him saying so. BUT he did say it's ok to add fluid as you are draining. So if you want to get specific run til the container has 2 quarts discharged in to it, shut off add two quarts and continue till you see the color change and it WILL.

I have no issue with the sputter method. Simply understand the same thing happens when you drain the fluid and fill and start.

"No one cares" UH, i'm betting plenty do and simply don't want to be ridiculed for asking or commenting on the subject.

Thought we were here to learn and help each other???

 

[kthaxton]

Thought we were here to learn and help each other???

That's precisely why I chime in every time you bring this up.....so someone who is just learning doesn't get the impression that your way is a must....and wastes time and fluid.

 

[gsbrockman]

Working on that one. I have info I won’t divulge on here.

Thought we were here to learn and help each other???

Ok.........

 

[Cummins12V98]

That's precisely why I chime in every time you bring this up.....so someone who is just learning doesn't get the impression that your way is a must....and wastes time and fluid.

I said. "On the 68 it's VERY easy to do a "fluid exchange" to get all the fluid changed out instead of a half AZZ change."

YUP that sure would make someone think it's a "MUST". It may just peak someone's curiosity to see there is a way to "CHANGE THE FLUID".

But hey you just keep on saving people from my horrible ways, thanks.

 

[kthaxton]

I said. "On the 68 it's VERY easy to do a "fluid exchange" to get all the fluid changed out instead of a half AZZ change."

YUP that sure would make someone think it's a "MUST". It may just peak someone's curiosity to see there is a way to "CHANGE THE FLUID".

But hey you just keep on saving people from my horrible ways, thanks.

I am referring to every other time you've brought it up.....and was certain you'd hype again, and you did say "half AZZ" which it certainly is not. So.....I stand by my post.

...nipping it in the bud.

 

[Cummins12V98]

Well if you drained out what I did on my 01 trans yesterday that was very dark in color you would certainly have gotten rid of ALL if you could. Fluid had 48k on it from previous owners last change.

You just want to be argumentative. I give a perfectly acceptable way to do an exchange and it's no good to YOU.

Just to make YOU "FEEL" better I did the exchange by my self this time. I dropped the pan, removed the filter and loosened the 9 valve body bolts. After a couple hours draining there was 10 quarts in the container.

Tightened valve body bolts to spec, adjusted inner band, installed the filter, installed the pan then added the 10 quarts of Signature series AMZ/OIL. Now the trans was FULL again.

Now I went to the front where the rubber lines attach to the trans cooler removed the hose from the filters outgoing side. Slipped on a 1/2" clear hose and placed it into empty container.

Started truck and when around 2qts had discharged I shut off truck. Measured the amount of fluid it was actually 3 quarts and added that much back, now "FULL" again. Started truck did the same and added another three quarts. The fluid coming out the hose was bright RED at that time. So 16 quarts and I have a 100% fresh fill trans with the OLD lube removed.

YEA I am an Idiot.

The method of running til it sputtered was NOT my Idea, I learned this from a TDR write up.

I did not let it sputter this time and was still an easy process so to make the nay sayers happy I will continue to do the "NO SPUTTER METHOD".

 

[JR]

Well if you drained out what I did on my 01 trans yesterday that was very dark in color

Fluid had 48k on it from previous owners last change.

If you would have serviced it at the manufacturers recommended interval rather than exceeding it by 60ish% your fluid would not be so spent

 

[kthaxton]

Well if you drained out what I did on my 01 trans yesterday that was very dark in color you would certainly have gotten rid of ALL if you could. Fluid had 48k on it from previous owners last change.

You just want to be argumentative. I give a perfectly acceptable way to do an exchange and it's no good to YOU.

Just to make YOU "FEEL" better I did the exchange by my self this time. I dropped the pan, removed the filter and loosened the 9 valve body bolts. After a couple hours draining there was 10 quarts in the container.

Tightened valve body bolts to spec, adjusted inner band, installed the filter, installed the pan then added the 10 quarts of Signature series AMZ/OIL. Now the trans was FULL again.

Now I went to the front where the rubber lines attach to the trans cooler removed the hose from the filters outgoing side. Slipped on a 1/2" clear hose and placed it into empty container.

Started truck and when around 2qts had discharged I shut off truck. Measured the amount of fluid it was actually 3 quarts and added that much back, now "FULL" again. Started truck did the same and added another three quarts. The fluid coming out the hose was bright RED at that time. So 16 quarts and I have a 100% fresh fill trans with the OLD lube removed.

YEA I am an Idiot.

The method of running til it sputtered was NOT my Idea, I learned this from a TDR write up.

I did not let it sputter this time and was still an easy process so to make the nay sayers happy I will continue to do the "NO SPUTTER METHOD".

You're certainly allowed to over and above if you wish, but as I said, you touted how bad and ineffective it is to do it the normal way.....the way just about everyone else does it, and what Ram suggests.
That's the part you don't get, you don't just say "I like to go a little further...etc", which most of us would be just fine with, no, you go on and on about how bad the 'normal' way is. This is what attracts the negative comments you get. You have a tendency to assert that what you do/buy is the best and everyone should do the same. It's called arrogance.

 

[Cummins12V98]

"and what Ram suggests."

PLEASE show me literature from "RAM" that says to change ONLY the pan.

"It's called arrogance."

If you say so, I call it doing the job the right way. If you don't think you have is the best then why did you buy it? I buy what I consider the best and I certainly will critique what I have.

 

[Cummins12V98]

If you would have serviced it at the manufacturers recommended interval rather than exceeding it by 60ish% your fluid would not be so spent

I purchased the truck last Summer, for some reason I thought the service had been done recently. The bottom of the pan was spotless and the magnet has a small layer on it. It's possible he had added an additive in it as it was not brown and did not smell at all. It was more like the color of the AISIN fluid. Maybe he told me he had done it recently, who knows.

Bottom line if possible I get ALL the fluid changed!

 

[NIsaacs]

Back in the day, the Ford C-6 had a convertor drain plug

 

[kthaxton]

"and what Ram suggests."

PLEASE show me literature from "RAM" that says to change ONLY the pan.

I don't have a 4th gen FSM, but I could dig up my 2000 FSM that very likely will have it.

"It's called arrogance."

If you say so, I call it doing the job the right way.

You still don't get it, it's not that you go overboard, it is how you talk about it here, that is the arrogance. Should have been obvious.

 

[gsbrockman]

PLEASE show me literature from "RAM" that says to change ONLY the pan.

PLEASE show ALL the TDR membership literature from RAM stating to disconnect transmission lines, procure two buckets, etc. etc. and perform the basic transmission service as YOU proclaim it should be.....

I will say it again........my 2014 RAM 3500 AS69RC was in great shape when I traded it in at 362k.....and I followed the servicing by the book, with the exception of going over a service or two by a few thousand miles occasionally.

 

[Cummins12V98]

Back in the day, the Ford C-6 had a convertor drain plug

All Ford trans I had were able to drain the converter. Tapped my TH400 on 86 C20 at 30k, recently sold it with WAYYY over 400k still shifted like new.

 

[Cummins12V98]

PLEASE show ALL the TDR membership literature from RAM stating to disconnect transmission lines, procure two buckets, etc. etc. and perform the basic transmission service as YOU proclaim it should be.....

I will say it again........my 2014 RAM 3500 AS69RC was in great shape when I traded it in at 362k.....and I followed the servicing by the book, with the exception of going over a service or two by a few thousand miles occasionally.

STILL waiting on the RAM literature that shows ONLY dropping the pan.

"Manual states to "Change automatic transmission fluid (AS69RC transmission only) interval every 30k."

Then it mentions "filter or filters every 60k"

GS, Since you are the one to dispute everything I have to say when you give literature showing only pan change then I will waste my time digging up info on method. I have been doing this since 2001 when I bought my 98 12V.

Let's not forget YOU are the one recently saying over maintenance is a good thing.

 

[gsbrockman]

STILL waiting on the RAM literature that shows ONLY dropping the pan.

"Manual states to "Change automatic transmission fluid (AS69RC transmission only) interval every 30k."

Then it mentions "filter or filters every 60k"

GS, Since you are the one to dispute everything I have to say when you give literature showing only pan change then I will waste my time digging up info on method. I have been doing this since 2001 when I bought my 98 12V.

Let's not forget YOU are the one recently saying over maintenance is a good thing.

Deleted original reply as you remind me of an arrogant buffoon....and cannot see the forest for the trees.