Used truck to purchase low miles But.......

[p-Bar]

Hi Guys,
I'm ready to move from my 3rd gen to a fourth. I have been looking at low mile used tradesman with Aisin trans. I found a 2019 close by with 11k on the clock . But.... it dropped an injector dealer has 6 new ordered for it and sales manager willing to make killer deal on it. Can I have some input from the peanut gallery. I'm not going to tell you rear end gears as that will be a fight . Thanks in advance

 

[lpennock]

Dropped an injector at 11K miles sounds fishy. More likely the CP4 self destructed and took out the injectors. I would talk with service a bit and find out what the real issue was and what was done to fix it. There is supposedly a TSB that replaces the CP4 with a CP3 which would be a good thing IMO.

 

[Cummins12V98]

Hi Guys,
I'm ready to move from my 3rd gen to a fourth. I have been looking at low mile used tradesman with Aisin trans. I found a 2019 close by with 11k on the clock . But.... it dropped an injector dealer has 6 new ordered for it and sales manager willing to make killer deal on it. Can I have some input from the peanut gallery. I'm not going to tell you rear end gears as that will be a fight . Thanks in advance

If it’s a SRW there is nothing to fight about as there is only one option.

 

[AKDoug]

Dropped an injector at 11K miles sounds fishy. More likely the CP4 self destructed and took out the injectors. I would talk with service a bit and find out what the real issue was and what was done to fix it. There is supposedly a TSB that replaces the CP4 with a CP3 which would be a good thing IMO.

This doesn't exist and has been proven. There is no TSB replacing the CP4 with a CP3. There is a newer version of the CP4.2, but nobody has proven why it's better. FCA basically said it was changed to reduce noise (?) I wouldn't touch a 2019 with a ten foot pole with injector issues.. and I own a 2019.

 

[cerberusiam]

Nope, not a chance. It is jinxed if it dropped an injector now, no end of troubles posible. New motor or nothing, if you really like the truck.

The only fix for a potential CP-4 meltdown will be a CP-3 retrofit which is available. Your dime though.

 

[Wiredawg]

Hi Guys,
I'm ready to move from my 3rd gen to a fourth. I have been looking at low mile used tradesman with Aisin trans. I found a 2019 close by with 11k on the clock . But.... it dropped an injector dealer has 6 new ordered for it and sales manager willing to make killer deal on it. Can I have some input from the peanut gallery. I'm not going to tell you rear end gears as that will be a fight . Thanks in advance

So, if you're still thinking about it, negotiate your BEST deal, then insist on the LONGEST most comprehensive Max Care Warranty offered AT NO COST. I'd do it if they got the deal right.

Curious to hear what you do... PM (private conversation) if you do it and don't want to hear guff from the gallery.

Cheers, Ron

 

[p-Bar]

Wiredawg pm sent

 

[p-Bar]

lpenneck wins the prize. pump failed whole new fuel system being installed . Your thoughts now on purchasing?

 

[TFucili]

Look for an '18, like I should have.

 

[Minnow101]

lpenneck wins the prize. pump failed whole new fuel system being installed . Your thoughts now on purchasing?

You and many, many other 19 and 20 owners. Only way I'd consider this truck is that extended warranty Wiredawg mentioned. Even then,... The issue currently is that there is a months long backlog on parts. The warranty does one little good if your truck is laid up 12 weeks waiting parts.

Finally, the replaced CP4 pump certainly does not guarantee that's the fix that will hold. Who knows, another 10,000 miles it can go out again. My Son in Law works for a surveying company and they have had 3 2020 3500's with catastrophic fuel pump failures within the past 6 weeks. All the trucks had less than 9000 miles on them.

 

[nukegm]

i hope ram gets a handle on this pump thing....seems to me to be a big strike against owning a new diesel... i have a buddy who works at a dealer. last week a chevy came in with a bad injection pump. no idea on the year. the bill, not finished yet, was over 10 grand. new fuel system, inc. injectors etc. these prices are insane. cheers comrades!

 

[p-Bar]

So 18's have CP3?

Look for an '18, like I should have.

 

[dieselshadow]

So 18's have CP3?

Yessir.

 

[NIsaacs]

i hope ram gets a handle on this pump thing....seems to me to be a big strike against owning a new diesel... i have a buddy who works at a dealer. last week a chevy came in with a bad injection pump. no idea on the year. the bill, not finished yet, was over 10 grand. new fuel system, inc. injectors etc. these prices are insane. cheers comrades!

Yup, they can all fail. No clue on the year of this GM, but lots of $. Posted from my sons shop.

 

[TFucili]

I may be off base, but that appears to be a CP4, not the newer GM Denso system on the L5P.

 

[NIsaacs]

Copy & paste from the post.

Durmax fuel system. Cp3 pump, injectors n all fuel lines. Ouch....
#powerhousediesel

 

[JR]

I can't open the link since I don't have FB, but that looks like a CP4 to me.

 

[NIsaacs]

I may be off base, but that appears to be a CP4, not the newer GM Denso system on the L5P.

I can't open the link since I don't have FB, but that looks like a CP4 to me.

Looks like a CP4 to me too

https://r.search.yahoo.com/cbclk2/d...DMgRydAMw?IG=0afd224d0ba0459baf00000000142941

 

[Bug Out]

To be quite honest with you, I would have NOT traded my 16 3500 Cummins w/AISIN if I was aware of the CP4 pump.(My bad, but thought at this stage, Chrysler would have been thinking of sacrificing longevity or quality ) I could have made the 16 work with the new RV...Just waiting for this CP4 to leave me stranded on the side of the road...While my payments keep coming in..

 

[p-Bar]

I've decided to bail on this 19' . Looking at low mile 18's . Thanks for everyone's help.
One question I do have is when truck is in for service are those records for only that specific dealer or if you run the vin from another dealer will all the service records will show up?