Is there a bed weight limit

[NIsaacs]

Not true! The dealer presented it as a failed trans.

So, the dealer screwed up the trans, then billed Ram...nice dealer

 

[Cummins12V98]

So, the dealer screwed up the trans, then billed Ram...nice dealer

Yep! They do it all the time.

 

[brillmtb1]

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Is that an 855 with a slide, I dont see an 855 non slide on their site. You look pretty level to you have overload springs or airbags??

 

[AnonEd]

I think most new trucks' individual GAWR add up to more than GVWR...the last Rebel diesel I was in had GAWR that totaled 12,040 lbs, 2360 more than the posted GWVR. Like AH64ID says, Ram doesn't want too much weight on one end (pin? rig? bucket?) or the other (big winch bumper? plow?) or over GVWR. IIRC the guy who started EarthRoamer did it because he couldn't make his Ram 2500 do medium-duty things and survive.

 

[JPM]

Is that an 855 with a slide, I dont see an 855 non slide on their site. You look pretty level to you have overload springs or airbags??

855 no slide, less weight and not as tall as a 855s with a slide, they no lojnger make a 855

helwig 3500 upper overloads because ram leave them off the late model SRW 3500s

 

[Turbo Terry]

So what’s that rig weigh front and rear axle ready to go camping

 

[JPM]

So what’s that rig weigh front and rear axle ready to go camping

pmd you

 

[brillmtb1]

Curious as to what the center of gravity is for the truck bed and where it is measured from. Then I will compare what my camper states. I understand there may be a range of acceptability in the truck bed with perhaps ideal over the axle or just in front.

 

[AH64ID]

Curious as to what the center of gravity is for the truck bed and where it is measured from. Then I will compare what my camper states. I understand there may be a range of acceptability in the truck bed with perhaps ideal over the axle or just in front.

The camper guide I linked in post #10 of this thread has all that info in it.

What your camper states is only good empty, so you will have to consider any cargo/mod placement for its effect on CG.

 

[SSchang]

The camper sheet on my truck shows the recommended location for the camper center of gravity from 8" in front of the wheel well, to the rear of the wheel well.

 

[User113]

No one has answered my question/statement. Why have a 9,750# rear axle rating that I can’t load to and be under 14k???????

As I said I gave Chrysler my loaded axle weights and combined weights. They did not deny my 100% AISIN replacement.

simply put the truck is much more capable than the 14k. If they moved it to class 4 they would not sell near as many because of licensing snd insurance costs.

9,750# rear loaded axle plus my unloaded 5,250# front axle is 15k, HMMMMMMMM

From the NTEA's website:

There’s a common misconception that a truck’s GVWR is determined by adding gross axle weight ratings (GAWRs) together for all axles. Although this was a common way of calculating GVWR many years ago, it’s no longer an accurate method. The chassis manufacturer task of establishing a vehicle GVWR is much more difficult today due to advancement of safety system standards and how vehicles meet these requirements. This is why many trucks have a GVWR much lower than the combined axle ratings. It’s not uncommon for a truck with a GVWR of 19,500 pounds to have a front axle rated at 7,500 pounds and a rear axle rated at 14,700 pounds. Safety standards that apply to braking, vehicle stability, and chassis manufacturer internal standards for durability, dynamic stability and handling can restrict GVWR even though the sum of the axle ratings exceeds 22,000 pounds. In this instance, the OEM set the GVWR at 19,500 pounds based on test results and vehicle dynamic performance to ensure a safe, reliable truck.​

 

[NIsaacs]

"In this instance, the OEM set the GVWR at 19,500 pounds based on test results and vehicle dynamic performance to ensure a safe, reliable truck."

It is also the top of class 5. Class 6 starts at 19,501.

 

[SnoKing]

"In this instance, the OEM set the GVWR at 19,500 pounds based on test results and vehicle dynamic performance to ensure a safe, reliable truck."

It is also the top of class 5. Class 6 starts at 19,501.

And class 3 is 10,001 to 14,000 thus all 350 and 3500 are rated at a max 14K. Then to confuse things GM now has 2500s rated over 10K!!!!!! Hard understand their reasoning on that. And most of their models no longer have a 2500 or 3500 badge on them.

 

[Cummins12V98]

"In this instance, the OEM set the GVWR at 19,500 pounds based on test results and vehicle dynamic performance to ensure a safe, reliable truck."

It is also the top of class 5. Class 6 starts at 19,501.

its all about class ratings. Why is the pickup F450 only 14k???

 

[Cummins12V98]

its all about class ratings. Why is the pickup F450 only 14k???

I repeat how can my specific truck in the SAE ratings above have a rating of 9,750# snd NO WAY can I load to it???????

 

[SnoKing]

its all about class ratings. Why is the pickup F450 only 14k???

Only Ford can answer that question!

 

[AH64ID]

I repeat how can my specific truck in the SAE ratings above have a rating of 9,750# snd NO WAY can I load to it???????

Oye, this again?

It’s pretty simple, you could load to it… just not in your current configuration.

Axle rating’s aren’t SAE, only the tow rating/GCWR.

 

[Cummins12V98]

Only Ford can answer that question!

It's an easy answer, if they placed it in the next class they would sell very few!!!

 

[Cummins12V98]

Oye, this again?

It’s pretty simple, you could load to it… just not in your current configuration.

Axle rating’s aren’t SAE, only the tow rating/GCWR.

Why have the rating if I can't use it??? So what configuration could I load it to 9,750#? The chart is clear, DRW, 4x4, AISIN etc just like mine so why is that rating there? Am I not making my self clear?

 

[AH64ID]

Why have the rating if I can't use it??? So what configuration could I load it to 9,750#? The chart is clear, DRW, 4x4, AISIN etc just like mine so why is that rating there? Am I not making my self clear?

You’re making it clear that you don’t understand, no doubts there.

You could absolutely hit that rating, but not with the trailer you tow. There are other ways to load these trucks than how you load yours. Is that clear? In case it’s not, load up the aft portion of the bed with a pallet of bricks, then put 1800lbs on the ball without WDH and see what your FAW and RAW are, and if that doesn’t do it then put more weight in the bed. You’ll hit 9,750# and be dropping the FAW in doing so.