Acoustic guitar shopping....any ideas?

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Dl5treez

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I'm looking at buying an acoustic guitar. I don't particularly want to spend more than $200 or so, and I know that there are a few decent instruments in that price range.



I've narrowed it down to these two choices:



Takamine G240

Washburn D100





If I picked on sound quality I'd go for the Takamine. If I picked on construction quality and looks I'd go for the Washburn.



Any other ideas, opinions, or suggestions out there on low priced acoustics?



Thanks!



Dan-
 
Sound and playability are the two most important things when buying a guitar. Actually that's a loaded statement, cause intonation, tuner construction, nut material, bridge material all play as important part of selecting a good acoustic. Recently a washburn was given to me via mail order, it was a $99 special. But for 99 bucks it's has to be the best playing/sounding guitar I have ever picked up. I play it more than the martin d-1 for practice cause it so easy play and I don't care about dinging' it up.



So in the long... play a lot of guitars before buying one. Pick a neck that fits you hand, and feels natural. I got lucky with a mail order, but i know a lot of people that don't.
 
DRAG DIESEL said:
... play a lot of guitars before buying one. Pick a neck that fits you hand, and feels natural.



That's the ticket right there. Play as many as you can, then pick the one you like best, based on sound, and feel.
 
I 100% agree that a guitar has to feel right to be the right fit for a person. I sorta already have done the shopping & playing. My favorite so far is a Taylor, but the $3,200 price tag puts it out of reach just a wee bit. :-laf



Since Taylor doesn't make a guitar in my price range, I went searching. After playing lots of junk & lots of decent instruments, I've narrowed my choices down to the Takamine and the Washburn.



I was curious if anyone has specific likes & dislikes about those guitars, or if they have a great find that I may have overlooked.



I know that spending a few bucks more than $200 can yield a great guitar, but I'm so impressed with these two, that for their price I almost feel stupid for not buying one of them. :cool:
 
Takamine is a good guitar, I've played a few but never owned one. Never heard any bad things about them.



I have however owned two Alvarez's and they are awsome! One was just an acoustic, and the other is a acoustic/electric and I wouldn't give them up for anything. Check out the Alvarez brand if you can find one in your price range. ;)
 
Having played guitar for over half my life, here's my advice:



Get the best quality guitar you can POSSIBLY afford. If you are learning, you will VERY quickly get discouraged by a guitar that will not PLAY in tune or STAY in tune. Who wants to play a guitar that makes noise instead of music? Who want to play a guitar that hurts your hands or has dead frets?



Fact: Most cheap guitars end up in a closet after a few months, never to be played again. I suspect it's far less likely to happen with a better guitar.



With a better guitar, you are more likely to play, and your practice will be more productive. You will get better faster. And as you improve, you will find that practice isn't work, and that playing guitar has now become an enjoyable pasttime.



How's your musical ear? If you have perfect pitch, a cheap guitar will drive you crazy. If you have a hard time hearing sharp or flat, and can't tune a guitar except with a digital tuner (with indicator lights to show flat and sharp), then intonation and tuning stability will be less important to you.



When buying a cheap guitar, don't worry about the brand at all. Fact is, most are "ghost built" by a huge megafacturer like Samick and they just put brand "A" on one and brand "B" on another.



So don't get hung up on whether or not Washburns are good (some are, some aren't) or even if Takamines are good (most are, some suck).



Guitars MUST be evaluated individually, without regard to brand or price. I've played some $3000+ Martins and Taylors that were not worth the money at all. I've also played some cheapos that sounded GREAT. I've played PRS electrics that were nowhere near what a guitar like that should be, and I've played $800 Epiphone Les Pauls that were TWICE as good as the $4000 Gibson Les Paul that it copies.







My Advice? BUY USED. You can get a much nicer guitar for the money if you buy a used one. Plus, most used guitars are older, and the wood has mellowed. A quality guitar improves with age, like fine wine. Check the price tag on a Pre-WW2 Martin and see how this affects desirability.



Some good finds? 70s Yamahas and other "Jap knock offs" from the 70s.



Above all, PLAY A BUNCH OF GUITARS. Buying a good guitar is a lot like dating. You are going to be marrying this thing, so take your time "test driving". Look down the neck from the bridge to make sure there's no warping. Check truss rod adjustment. Play every fret on every string to check for dead spots or fret buzz. Check the top and the inside for cracks. A good guitar should have NO visible glue on the inside. A good guitar is solid wood, with NO LAMINATES. The neck shape and nut width should compliment your hand size and finger length.





Oh and if you want to know what a fine guitar looks like, here's a link to show you. Olson guitars are the modern equivalent of a Stradivarius violin. The only other that come close imho is Charis Acoustic.



Here's some Olson pics:http://www.olsonguitars.com/jumbo.html



Here's some Charis pics: http://www.charisacoustic.com



I'd love to have one of these someday. But a used one is more expensive than a new one is!!!
 
If price to sound quality was a measure of a guitar's value, the Takamine would be the best guitar I've ever played. The glue is sloppy and a couple I looked at had some pretty ugly blems, but for $99 I can't complain.



The Washburn has a different sound, I prefer it less to the Takamine but the guitar is put together a lot better. It is also slightly easier for me to play as the neck is more narrow.



Both have junk strings--I plan on getting different ones installed--and actions set WAY too high, but the guy I'm shopping with is pretty cool about setting up the instruments. He takes just as much time to make sure a $99 guitar is right for the player as he does for the mega-dollar Martins, etc. Plus he matches the prices of the big mail order houses.



I'll keep shopping, thanks for the replies so far & keep them coming!
 
I have been playin Ovations for a while now, they play more like an electric than any other acoustic i have been able to find so far. I love mine, it is a hig end model (Elite to be exact runs about 1700. 00) but the celebrity series plays just about as good and sounds great. You can get a good celebrity from musician's friend for about 275. 00 or so. good luck, keep playin, and get what feels the best to you, trying out different guitars is well over half the fun of gettin a new one. I have found myself with too many now, lol
 
Dan, there's no much you can do to "set up" an acoustic. Pretty much just a truss rod adjustment. Assuming it even has one (some cheapies don't!).

Other than that, you're looking at re-cutting the nut grooves deeper (for lower action) and re-doing the saddle.

Neither is worth messing with for a $99 guitar.



On Ovations: I have a 1994 Collector's Series. Optima Preamp and other niceties. Plays like a dream. Sound really good until you plug it in. The ONLY way I've been able to get a good sound out of it is to blend mic, magnetic, and piezo pickups separately on the mixer.

Even then, an Ovation doesn't sound much like an acoustic guitar. They have their own sound, and you'll never get them to sound like a classic dreadnought or jumbo guitar.

As I've matured, I find that I like the sound of my Ovation less and less. It's just not inspiring. And it's WAY too expensive to keep as a bedroom guitar.

I'd sell my Ovation in a heartbeat if I could recoup even a portion of the $1400 I paid for it, ON SALE (retail was $1800).
 
Another brand you might want to look into is Tacoma. They use to make some decent geetars. Also you might want to check out the lower level Larrvie's. Those are some sweet guitars also.



One day I will own one from a small little luther here in Texas named Vince Pawless (pawless.com)



I will admit thought that I don't know half as much about other guitars as I do teles. :D
 
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Tacoma is probably the best guitar made in terms of quality/price.



At any given price point, they are about as good as you can find.
 
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