Extended warranty necessary on 2016 2500?

[Newsa]

When i bought mine...... It said it coveres "Everything Mechanical" but that was the sales pitch written on the website. It does also cover (pretty much) everything electrical, i believe except i believe there isa disclaimer for some emmissions stuff. And if course it doesn't cover normal wear items like clutch plates. I think the DPF is also considered a normal wear item.

 

[EZeis]

Sorry, you said covers things not covered by the regular Powertrain warranty, not everything. Emissions? Dig it out. I’ll buy lunch if your right.

Looked at my contract, covers emissions components except the cat (gasoline and diesel) and dpf. Does cover def system. Anything else you'd like me to check?


Earl

 

[jhenderson]

Like I said it doesn’t cover the DPF or the SCR which is not a cat. That’s pretty much the emissions system. The egr and cooler aren’t failure prone which is why they’re covered. When you have def trouble they’re going to blame bad fluid and you’ll pay anyway. I guess I don’t have to buy lunch, do I?

 

[RVTRKN]

On the emission systems, check with your State regulations, mandatory coverage of emission systems regardless of the manufacture warranty will apply, if past manufacture coverage.

 

[EZeis]

Like I said it doesn’t cover the DPF or the SCR which is not a cat. That’s pretty much the emissions system. The egr and cooler aren’t failure prone which is why they’re covered. When you have def trouble they’re going to blame bad fluid and you’ll pay anyway. I guess I don’t have to buy lunch, do I?

Wouldn't want to eat with you. You're not someone I'd associate with. I'm starting to see a pattern with you on several posts as a troll.
Like I said the warranty isn't for everyone. Especially you. Like all warranties, it won't cover 100% of everything. So you keep on trolling and leave the Mopar service contracts for the others.


Earl

 

[firemansdiesel]

Please explain the FCA Max Care Plan ,$$ etc and exactly where to go for it . I have a 2017 Ram with less than 20K

https://www.chryslerfactoryplans.com/

https://www.chryslerwarrantydirect.com/

 

[jhenderson]

Quite an accusation from the man who said the DPF was covered. Particularly since that was example I used that you contradicted me on.

 

[jhenderson]

On the emission systems, check with your State regulations, mandatory coverage of emission systems regardless of the manufacture warranty will apply, if past manufacture coverage.

Federal regs are 8 years / 80K miles. I doubt many states go further than that.

 

[EZeis]

Quite an accusation from the man who said the DPF was covered. Particularly since that was example I used that you contradicted me on.

You're hell for putting words and misquoting people. Such a troll you are! I said I'd be surprised if the DPF wasn't covered. Never said it was. Why are you so wrapped up on the the DPF? It's one of hundreds of things on the truck. I even dig out my contract to answer your questions. I'm done with you and your trolling. I hope one day you will find more productive ways to contribute to the forum than being a troll.

Earl

 

[jhenderson]

Considering I even offered the friendly “ I’ll buy breakfast” I’m wondering why you’re the one throwing the name Troll around. You didn’t check your warranty for me, but for yourself. I specifically referred to the DPF because out of the thousands of parts, it’s one the most likely failure points on a seldom/ lightly used truck such as the O.Ps. It’s also one of the most expensive, right behind the motor and trans which are covered by the 100K Powertrain warranty. That’s why it’s not covered. Too many failures and too many reasons ( not all of them FCAs fault) for those failures.
I’ve been here a long time. Initially I was drawn to this site because the info given was virtually always correct. Over the years, things have changed. Clutch repair advice from someone who doesn’t even know the slave master is separate from the brake master, brake advice from someone who doesn’t know these trucks have floating rear ends, or the difference between a rear from a dually and an SRW etc. Bad or incorrect advice is worse than no advise. I point out mistakes or overlooked info to try to show what’s correct, not what’s supposition or conjecture. The idea here is helpful and correct info for those who come here trusting the site and it’s users. When I’m wrong, I gladly admit it, and file that info for future use. There’s only one man who’s ever been perfect and nobody’s ever confused me, or anybody else, with him.

 

[Bob4x4]

I’ve replaced quite a few egr valves and a few coolers......

 

[Newsa]

Considering I even offered the friendly “ I’ll buy breakfast” I’m wondering why you’re the one throwing the name Troll around. You didn’t check your warranty for me, but for yourself. I specifically referred to the DPF because out of the thousands of parts, it’s one the most likely failure points on a seldom/ lightly used truck such as the O.Ps. It’s also one of the most expensive, right behind the motor and trans which are covered by the 100K Powertrain warranty. That’s why it’s not covered. Too many failures and too many reasons ( not all of them FCAs fault) for those failures.
I’ve been here a long time. Initially I was drawn to this site because the info given was virtually always correct. Over the years, things have changed. Clutch repair advice from someone who doesn’t even know the slave master is separate from the brake master, brake advice from someone who doesn’t know these trucks have floating rear ends, or the difference between a rear from a dually and an SRW etc. Bad or incorrect advice is worse than no advise. I point out mistakes or overlooked info to try to show what’s correct, not what’s supposition or conjecture. The idea here is helpful and correct info for those who come here trusting the site and it’s users. When I’m wrong, I gladly admit it, and file that info for future use. There’s only one man who’s ever been perfect and nobody’s ever confused me, or anybody else, with him.

I will chime in here and correct Mr. Jhenderson. I don't remember giving clutch repair information. I remember asking about the clutch master cylinder and if it was shared with the brake master cylinder. I don't remember giving advice, but do remember participating in the duscussion and learning.

I remember being puzzled about where the clutch master cylinder was because I was looking for a clear plastic reservoir that could be filled and maintained normally. I had never seen a single unit clutch hydraulic system like on my 2500 where the master cylinder is smaller than the master cylinder on an economy car and never seen one that you can't see what the fluid level is by looking through the plastic. That's why I didn't see it.
I have replaced a slave cylinder on a previous vehicle (Korean) and bled it myself by running back and forth and using a broom stick to hold the pedal down when propped against the drivers seat back.
Jhenderson jumped on my question and saw my question as a perceived weakness. He has admitted making mistakes but seems to think it unallowable for others to either make a mistake or admit to not finding something under the hood.

So if you mean he scans these threads like a troll and injects himself into conversations where he sees what he sees as a weakness or a mistake. Then yes, that would describe him.
I don't remember giving advice about ram clutches. But I may have mentioned that I had done a similar repair on a Hyundai.

 

[EZeis]

Troll/trolling is basically someone that picks arguments/fights, pushes buttons, etc to get a raise out of people and/or to bring attention to themselves. Putting words in someone's mouth and misquoting as well. Nitpicking your post is a common troll pastime too. Best thing to do with a troll is to ignore them. No rise from you, no reward for them.

The official meaning below.
In Internet slang, a troll is a person who starts quarrels or upsets people on the Internet to distract and sow discord by posting inflammatory and digressive,[1] extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community(such as a newsgroup, forum, chat room, or blog) with the intent of provoking readers into displaying emotional responses[2] and normalizing tangential discussion,[3] whether for the troll's amusement or a specific gain.

Earl

 

[jhenderson]

Dodging the thrust of the statement with a needless definition speaks volumes.

 

[RVTRKN]

And I was starting to enjoy this, oh well.

 

[Newsa]

This is my best guess of the part they have on order to replace. I hope it comes with at least a 2 year part warranty.

No regrets about the $1850 max care i bought.
See the ECM below from a discount dealer.

My only remaining complaint is they made me approve that they program a new fob to the (old) computer (before they knew it was the ECM). So since i gave them verbal approval for a new key, i can't retract that even though it wasn't the fob..... The fob wasn't the reason the fob wasn't communicating with the truck. Instead, it was a blown computer module. $380 sounds a little steep for a key + programming?????

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So got my truck back after a week and a half.

He said the warranty paid for a $4000 pcm (i'm guessing that includes the programming). It appears it is now correctly giving me 15k on fuel filters. The old computer had a glitch that told me to change fuel filters every 11,000 miles.

They did charge me $330 for the additional fob. Because they originally thought the fob was bad but further troubleshooting showed it wasn't the fob, but was instead the computer. The computer wasn't recognizing the fob so it had to be replaced

 

[RVTRKN]

Awesome, I'm glad you got it back to normal.

 

[nukegm]

So got my truck back after a week and a half.

He said the warranty paid for a $4000 pcm (i'm guessing that includes the programming). It appears it is now correctly giving me 15k on fuel filters. The old computer had a glitch that told me to change fuel filters every 11,000 miles.

They did charge me $330 for the additional fob. Because they originally thought the fob was bad but further troubleshooting showed it wasn't the fob, but was instead the computer. The computer wasn't recognizing the fob so it had to be replaced

comrade newsa - i read in a previous post that you bought the max care warranty. in addition, you mentioned the aftermarket warranty paid less for warranty work than ram pays for warranty work..... my question is, if i bought the same warranty as you, could a dealer turn down my warranty work because they dont want to get paid less per hour/job etc. than a regular factory warranty? or dealership discrimination, so to speak? thanks in advance for your opinion. im going to buy that warranty this fall. cheers!

 

[Newsa]

comrade newsa - i read in a previous post that you bought the max care warranty. in addition, you mentioned the aftermarket warranty paid less for warranty work than ram pays for warranty work..... my question is, if i bought the same warranty as you, could a dealer turn down my warranty work because they dont want to get paid less per hour/job etc. than a regular factory warranty? or dealership discrimination, so to speak? thanks in advance for your opinion. im going to buy that warranty this fall. cheers!

I believe they can not turn you down. Part of their (dealership) agreement with FCA is that to carry the brand name and have FCA ( Chrysler, Dodge, Jeep, Ram) certified repair shop is that they accept the lower labor costs (FCA controlled) for warranty work. They also get the privelege of selling the warranties and make a little money off of that if they sell alot of them. There are many types of incentives that the manufacurer gives the dealers in terms of sales, service and parts. Parts and service have huge markups if not under warranty. And our trucks have decent markups too because diesel really does bring a higher price according to the market than a gasser. And when you sell alot of expensive diesels, those markups add up. Also, the dealer wants a good service customer base because our diesels have things like def/fuel filters that require regular changing.

Never had a dealer say they would not perform warranty work. You can call the number in your warranty paperwork if they pull that.

I called the warranty phone number when they told me i couldn't get a rental car covered and they changed their mind as soon as FCA max care picked up the phone and the dealer saw me explaining my issue to the maxcare rep on the phone.

Also, after big warranty work, FCA will send you a customer service review survey to see if they resolved your problem to your satisfaction.

In my experience, the warranty is the best way to go. You have recourse if you don't modify your truck in a way that might void warranty.

They didn't even question my BD throttle sensitivity booster. But they did check the PCM to see if it had been reprogrammed. They found nothing because it was stock programming. That's probably why it took.more than a week.

 

[nukegm]

I believe they can not turn you down. Part of their (dealership) agreement with FCA is that to carry the brand name and have FCA ( Chrysler, Dodge, Jeep, Ram) certified repair shop is that they accept the lower labor costs (FCA controlled) for warranty work. They also get the privelege of selling the warranties and make a little money off of that if they sell alot of them. There are many types of incentives that the manufacurer gives the dealers in terms of sales, service and parts. Parts and service have huge markups if not under warranty. And our trucks have decent markups too because diesel really does bring a higher price according to the market than a gasser. And when you sell alot of expensive diesels, those markups add up. Also, the dealer wants a good service customer base because our diesels have things like def/fuel filters that require regular changing.

Never had a dealer say they would not perform warranty work. You can call the number in your warranty paperwork if they pull that.

I called the warranty phone number when they told me i couldn't get a rental car covered and they changed their mind as soon as FCA max care picked up the phone and the dealer saw me explaining my issue to the maxcare rep on the phone.

Also, after big warranty work, FCA will send you a customer service review survey to see if they resolved your problem to your satisfaction.

In my experience, the warranty is the best way to go. You have recourse if you don't modify your truck in a way that might void warranty.

They didn't even question my BD throttle sensitivity booster. But they did check the PCM to see if it had been reprogrammed. They found nothing because it was stock programming. That's probably why it took.more than a week.

thanks for the very informative reply comrade newsa. i really appreciate it. and the time you took to type that. that would have taken me a long while to two finger type. cheers!