Industrial Injection Phat Shaft 66 Turbo

[Fishin Guide]

Yep. With the two of us running about the same turbo, about the same HP. Would be a good test.



Would also be nice to trade them off to someone with an auto like Big Bob or PaulB.

Or me!



Dave

 

[BHaner]

I think that a lot of people are just waiting for some good info before they buy. I know I am. If I can help the process any way, then I would like to.

 

[Diesel Freak]

If they have the same rotational inertia as a B-1, then they will not light before 1800 RPM on my truck

 

[BHaner]

oh geeze, what am I getting myself into.



Next you will be asking me to blow up a Jammer II just to be totally on the same page!

Do it for your fellow bombers!



Would also be cool to have a 12 valve auto and stick in the mix.

 

[Diesel Freak]

a good 12 valve would be Bob V's truck. It should bolt right on since he is running a Cool Twist turbo.

 

[Cummins4Life]

How about a 200hp 12valve with a loose converter? :-laf

 

[Jim Fulmer]

So... this turbo is based upon a S300, correct?



And it has a 66mm front-end, right?



So whats the advantage over a HTT SP66? - I dont mean, "it spools really fast, and supports 700hp"



I mean a maybe a fancy wastegate, or a crazy modified exh. housing, or maybe a new-age designed impeller? I'm just looking for whats this turbo's "claim-to-fame"? (like the ATS aurora MTS, thats thinking outside the box)



Any outside-the-box stuff on this bad boy?

No, it's not based on a S300



Yes 66mm... ... that's what happens when you have a good wheel



Yes allot of custom machine work



Over the SP66! It's suppose to be a little better, but the SP66 is still a good turbo from what I hear.



Cliff, get the knife out of the raft :-laf



As for me(why don't you try one Jim) I wish I had money to try all the new stuff but it's just not there, remember I'm still paying debt off from the new Motor(Creditor, not Piers) No punt intended here.



Jim

 

[Tomeygun]

No, it's not based on a S300

Yes 66mm... ... that's what happens when you have a good wheel

Yes allot of custom machine work

Over the SP66! It's suppose to be a little better, but the SP66 is still a good turbo from what I hear.

Jim

Both are loosely based on S300's Both were backordered at the same time, Both are now no longer backordered (hmm share similar parts?) both have a comp wheel with a 66mm inducer.

See, this is exactly why we need more info, We were all thinking (in error) it was based on an S300 - (I though) Like the B1 series, and the HTT line

 

[paulb]

Yep. With the two of us running about the same turbo, about the same HP. Would be a good test.



Would also be nice to trade them off to someone with an auto like Big Bob or PaulB.

Yeah, but I would want it before either of you too!!! :-laf :-laf



I'm not Juice grip certified, so it would be safe...

 

[Luke Warmwater]

JHFC! If you have the time and knowledge to state what it not based on, why don't you share some of the holy knowledge and tell us what it is based on? For chits sake what is wrong with some people!

 

[KYLE4]

We will have one in Scotts truck soon and will let you all know how it goes.

 

[BradyWilliams]

RE: Phat Shaft 66

Just wanted to check in with some results on horse power that has been achieved with our Phat Shaft turbos. My truck was ran recently on a 4 ft. roller Dyno Jet chassis dyno. I have been working on my truck lately and needed to know what hp. increases that I had achieved. Since I ran at May Madness I have installed a FASS fuel system 150 gph and a Snow water/methanol injection system. The results are 688 hp and pyrometer temps that was recorded at the same time as the dyno runs was 1315 deg. The gauge varied sightly with each run but was still in that range. We were able to run the TST box at 2 numbers higher at 5 and the torque was at 4. We tried level 6 and level 7 also but the common rail presure was droping too far which drops hp. Turbo boost was at 55 psi. The Dyno Jet factory was called to find out about the accuacy of the dyno. They said that the dyno was very new and the accuracy was verified. So we are not yet at 700 hp but 688 hp is still a good number. We also ran the truck that Industrial Injection owns just to verify hp. and to measure pyrometer temps. We ran 562 hp and pyrometer temps were 1310 degs. The truck does not run a FASS fuel system, water/methanol or our 3 flow injectors. That truck was ran 5 times on the dyno to make sure the numbers were right and to see the effect of dropping the TST box from level 9 to 8. The pyro. temps were 1253 at level 8 and 1179 at level 7. We hope that this information helps you in your quest as to what were selling. We don't believe that 700 hp. is that far off. We have the dyno runs on our web site at http://www.industrialinjection.com/id21.html. Go take a LOOK!

 

[CRoth - BD-Power]

How much did you gain from the Water/Meth? Can you put that truck on a load dyno and give us pyro temps.



Also what was the correction factor for the dynojet.

 

[Lightman]

What HP did you get with #2 only just wondering

 

[Jeff_K]

That has to be the highest HP for a third gen so far. Pretty impressive. What are your EGT's on the street/strip with the same settings? What are 3 flow injectors? Are they honed stock injectors?



You need to get some of these turbos/injectors out into circulation by giving a TDR discount or something. Nothing sells products better than independent testing results.

 

[lmills]

I don't want to take anything away from industrial injection for their work, but no that is not the highest HP for a 3rd gen so far. It is probably the highest for a single charger 3rd gen though. Piers has made 735 with a set of twins

 

[Jim Fulmer]

You need to get some of these turbos/injectors out into circulation by giving a TDR discount or something. Nothing sells products better than independent testing results.



Hum, I have been running there injectors since last fall, I put down some fair numbers on #2 (750 range) with them using a questionable setup this was less than perfect for max HP. I run these EDM's on a day to day basis netting 17 MPG around town and 19 on the highway... ..... that is with a race pump. I will soon get to run them with a 215 pump using 370's at first then the big ones for a more bias examination... ... . real world, and will report back. I too would love to run a PS 66 as a top charger as I have put the 40 in every parameter possible and know my truck like the back of my hand as far as driveability and power... ... ..... good things are going to happen still even with $2. 25/gal diesel



Jim

 

[Diesel Freak]

Can you put that truck on a load dyno and give us pyro temps.



Also what was the correction factor for the dynojet.

Why not just ask him to hook to a 12,000 pound trailer and ask him at what level on the PM it takes to get over 1200F on a 2 minute pull!!!



oh, I made a 513 HP run the other day, and EGT only got to 1300F with my HX40!!! :-laf

 

[BradyWilliams]

RE: Industrial Injection Truck

We just wanted to mention that Bradys truck (Industrial Injection) pulled his boat with his truck that we mentioned (562hp) over Parley's canyon Sunday. The boat is a Maxxum 2800SCR with twin Bravo 2 drives. It measures 30. 5 ft. from swim platform to pupit and the width is 9ft 8inches. It weights about 13,000 lbs. with water, fuel and gear. Parley's canyon for those that have never pulled anything over this mountain is not only very steep but is very long. Because of heavy traffic you can't run over this mountain with out being in and out of the throtle pedal. The speed that was maintained was 65mph when other vehicles were in the way to 75mph when in the clear. The steepest part was at 75mph and in the clear. This was done in 5th gear and was never shifted lower or higher. The pyrometer temps ran 1250 deg. to 1362 deg. Full throtle was never needed and was some where in the middle to upper middle range. The truck could pull in 6th gear and at much faster speeds but can't be done in heavy traffic. //



Brady still owns the 1998 12 valve that he used to pull the same boat over Parley's canyon. It has a HX40/35 turbo, #10 camplate, 370 hp injectors, 4 inch exhaust, ATS exhaust manifold and K&N intake. That truck could never pull Parley's canyon without down shifting and watching pyro. temps. that were always on the edge and at much slower speeds. Throtle to the floor and then backing out to save the engine! Phat Shaft Turbos are great products!

 

[BHaner]

Wow... Info is looking good on this turbo... Thanks for the update Brett.



I think it may be time to dive in again...



Head studs are here and ready to go in... Clutch is working great! Time to bust 500 HP! Oo.