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Alright guys i need to dig up this old thread for some help. i got my sps64 today and tried to hang it on the truck but ran into the transmission cooler line. what did you guys do with your transmission cooler line? this turbo is awsome and i havent got it on the truck yet. Thanks II



The Fat Kid

Andy
 
TurboTweaker said:
Alright guys i need to dig up this old thread for some help. i got my sps64 today and tried to hang it on the truck but ran into the transmission cooler line. what did you guys do with your transmission cooler line? this turbo is awsome and i havent got it on the truck yet. Thanks II



The Fat Kid

Andy





Does it need to be clocked?



I have never installed that turbo either.



Dave
 
Hello

I post this because of all the talk about turbos and weekend mechanics replacing them in the garage.



I will try to make this short. I do not know about all the mapping and stuff like that to busy, But I do Know Diesel engs. And I would like to address the turbo failure discussed at the start of this thread. I am A engineer aboard large ocean going ships I work on, maintain, rebuild, and replace Diesel engines in the 500 hp to 10 000 hp range this includes Turbos. I can speak with some knowledge here. Turbo failure is caused by clearance issues, lack of lubrication and damage from stuff that that has no business in the turbo ie parts of valves rags tools etc. 95% of all turbo failures I have seen are lack of lubrication and lack of cool down after a heavy load. first, lack of lubrication the single most important time to lubricate the turbo is installing time when putting the turbo on pour clean NEW oil into the turbo oil gallery then give the turbo a gentle spin to coat the parts that need to be lubricated. this will be the single most important thing you do for your turbo or turbos, secondly let the turbo cool down We always let our turbos cool down for 5 mins after bringing the load off on all our applications. This is my humble advice



hope it helps
 
You may need to reclock the turbo or move the A/C line a bit. If you have never reclocked a turbo I would be glad to give you the crash course. Chris nice post! But there is one more thing to consider and implement when you install a turbo. You must bleed the air in the oil supply line all the way up to the turbo, then make the connection and start the engine. Idle the engine while checking for leaks etc. (2-5 minutes) Go have fun! Thanks, Brady 1-800-955-0476 or PM me
 
BrettWilliams said:
You may need to reclock the turbo or move the A/C line a bit. If you have never reclocked a turbo I would be glad to give you the crash course. Chris nice post! But there is one more thing to consider and implement when you install a turbo. You must bleed the air in the oil supply line all the way up to the turbo, then make the connection and start the engine. Idle the engine while checking for leaks etc. (2-5 minutes) Go have fun! Thanks, Brady 1-800-955-0476 or PM me



We got the problem figured out. It wasn't the A/C line, it's the heater core line that goes from the front of the block, across the bottom side of the exhaust manifold, then comes up, has the bracket at the manifold, then to the heater core. Thanx to CumminsAHolic, we took the bracket at the exhaust manifold loose and it fits. We are gonna try to figure out a way to fab up something different for that line.



Josh
 
BrettWilliams said:
You must bleed the air in the oil supply line all the way up to the turbo, then make the connection and start the engine. Idle the engine while checking for leaks etc. (2-5 minutes) Go have fun! Thanks, Brady 1-800-955-0476 or PM me





How do you bleed the oil line? Bump the starter? :confused:



Thanks
 
Yes that is one way to do it. But it is better to not let it start. On your truck you could unplug the fuel injector harness. This will not let it start. If it does start shut it off fast. Its better to expell all the air than to make the connection and send a bunch of air through the turbo. Air does not lubricate any turbo! It is possible to cause a failure waiting for the air to pass through. Increasing rpm to higher levels with this senario will likely cause damage. Josh thats good you have got it solved. You did say trany cooler line. I don't know why I was thinking A/C. Maybe it was the time of day. Thanks
 
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Brett,

It was the heater core line that runs under the manifold. you cant reclock it to make it fit, the wastegate housing hit the line holding the bottom of the flange off the manifold.



The Fat Kid

Andy
 
I don't know how long this thread will go but I'll add one thing. 2 trucks here, 12V's, installed the PS 64. One was on a rebuild and one was just an addition. The rebuild went on the dyno as soon as it was running and made 565 HP, with no tuning at all. Marine pistons, 370's , spring kit, etc. The other truck, installed the turbo, got on the interstate and promply broke his input shaft.



Unreal, was how it was described as to the spool and the use of the turbo. When the time come on my hotrod, the same one is going on my truck. Oh yeah, the broken input shaft truck mad 545 on the stock 95 pump.



. . Preston. .
 
I drove a 12V auto with a 64/14 on it that was all stock except 370 and a II tuned 215! It was running 47 psi with the gate wide open and was just rude... ... just never figured that pump would flow that much or it would pull that hard. An O-ring'd head, studs, kick to boost to 55 or so and put some water on it and it would be hard to beat.



Jim
 
Jim Fulmer said:
I drove a 12V auto with a 64/14 on it that was all stock except 370 and a II tuned 215! It was running 47 psi with the gate wide open and was just rude... ... just never figured that pump would flow that much or it would pull that hard. An O-ring'd head, studs, kick to boost to 55 or so and put some water on it and it would be hard to beat.



Jim

You my friend know how to put bad thoughts into a man's head... . :cool:
 
Turbo Thom said:
I don't know how long this thread will go but I'll add one thing. 2 trucks here, 12V's, installed the PS 64. One was on a rebuild and one was just an addition. The rebuild went on the dyno as soon as it was running and made 565 HP, with no tuning at all. Marine pistons, 370's , spring kit, etc. The other truck, installed the turbo, got on the interstate and promply broke his input shaft.



Unreal, was how it was described as to the spool and the use of the turbo. When the time come on my hotrod, the same one is going on my truck. Oh yeah, the broken input shaft truck mad 545 on the stock 95 pump.



. . Preston. .



Just checking for more details, 545 on a "stock" 95 pump? And on what/who's dyno? TIA Jeff
 
i dont know how i like it yet i havent fired my truck up to do a retourqe yet, that and im still waiting on my down pipe. i cant wait to drive it Oo. i will let you know will



The Fat Kid

Andy
 
We have two new turbos that we are trying to name. #1 is the Phat Shaft Max for our Duramax upgrade turbo. #2 is the Phat Shaft Stroker for our Ford Powerstroke upgrade turbo. We are a little worried that those names might be offensive to some one. What do you guys think? Thanks, Brady
 
the dmax one should be ok but that phat shaft stroker is to funny! i would keep it. it all depends on your sense of humor. after all, it is yours to name.
 
No more so than the T-Shirt I wear all the time("Got Phat Shaft"). Need to change the name of Super Phat Shaft 66 to Phat Shaft Cummins. It does kind of make you wonder about where every one's mind is, because 99 out of 100 that see the T-Shirt will immediately associate with things other than heavy duty metal turbine shaft.



Phat Shaft Cummins

Phat Shaft Max

Phat Shaft Stroker
 
BrettWilliams said:
We have two new turbos that we are trying to name. #1 is the Phat Shaft Max for our Duramax upgrade turbo. #2 is the Phat Shaft Stroker for our Ford Powerstroke upgrade turbo. We are a little worried that those names might be offensive to some one. What do you guys think? Thanks, Brady

I can see how someone might be offended, but when I think of turbos, I think of mechanical things, and any double entendre, real or imagined, just doesn't occur to me.

jh
 
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