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The x300 new is around $3k. The X320 which gets you the K58 stronger transmission is around $4k new. Both can be had about $1500 less if buying used depending on condition.



The X300 has a K46 transmission and the X320 has the K58. The 46 is ok if not pulling heavy trailers or going up large hills.



For around $2k you really can get a great garden tractor used. The x300 series are very comfy and turn easily and are great machines. The air cooled kawi engines are very reliabe. They are a bit loud compared to the liquid cooled versions, but a lot cheaper.
 
I'll bet you have a cute little John Deere mailbox, don't you? Maybe some John Deere boots, too?



I own a JD and have owned 2 others over the years. They get the job done, but you have more money than sense if you take it to a dealer for ANYTHING; and they definitely DO break. At the VERY least, avoid any air-cooled JD and spend the money for a liquid cooled. Those Onan engines are crap valve-in-block engines and they will puke exhaust seats and require a new block which will be priced higher than a replacement engine.



You definitely DO pay deerely for that green and yellow paint when it comes time to fix anything on it.



Dealership service is expensive no matter what brand. John Deeres are famous for expensive parts, but so are Caterpillar, Peterbilt, Terex, Altec, Komatsu, Chrysler... point got.



What other brands do you recommend? I'm partial to JD but have an old IH Cub Cadet that still works fantastic... a neighbor has an older Snapper that is a beast!



If I could afford one, I'd buy a Toro commercial series golf course mower but can't justify $25,000 to cut my grass. :-laf
 
My point is that a garden tractor is not the best machine to mow with. Too much maintenance because of too many moving parts that aren't essential or even useful to simply mowing. It is a multi-purpose machine provided you fork out tons more money for various attachments.

If you are strictly interested in efficient, fast, cost-effective grass cutting, a machine purpose-built for that specialty is far superior. "Nothing you don't need" means lower initial cost along with lower maintenance costs over the life of the machine.

The "life of the machine" is where it gets tricky. A JD is a relatively well-built machine, but so are much less expensive lawn tractors like the good old Cub Cadet. You also have various degrees of quality in zero-turn mowers and the priciest is not necessarily superior. Don't get fooled or hung up on "Green and yellow is better". It isn't an absolute by any stretch.

If you are mowing a flat, simple 2 acres with minimal obstacles and if you absolutely will mount a tiller or a snowblower or other toys for other very light-duty tasks, then a lawn&garden tractor might be what you want. If time is valuable and if you have many trees and other obstacles, then nothing short of a herd of full-time herbivores can beat a zero-turn.

Zero-turn mowers are also much easier to work on since they are almost entirely exposed and accessible vs. a machine disguised as a tractor. Far fewer parts and form follows function. They are not made to look pretty at all.

Which brings me to the other option I would consider: If you do indeed have a laundry list of legitimate regular chores for a lawn and garden tractor and have 2 acres to mow regularly amongst them, then consider buying a good used genuine tractor and forget "lawn and garden". A small Kubota is a very good compact diesel with a very long life, as are the small (and hard to find) JD's and such. The fact they even make things like endloaders for lawn tractors is joke for profit, not real purpose.

A JD 425 or similar, even an older 420 like mine, commands a high price tag new or used. Often for just a little more or the same money, you can find a real diesel tractor. You can definitely find a good zero turn for an equal or lesser price.

My JD 420 is a mixed bag I would not buy again. The Onan engine is no longer made by Onan, which sold their small junk motor division to Linamar. Besides the crappy valve-in-head design, and lack of liquid cooling, it has a cast aluminum oil pan/base that WILL crack. Mine has also fragmented its flywheel taking out the stator. And we won't even get into how much the new emissions carburetors suck... If it weren't for me keeping the old junk motor to cannibalize, the parts costs would have been huge. the 420 may or may not do several things acceptably well, but it will definitely not do any one single thing extremely well; even just cutting grass. When my 1st Onan air-cooled engine spit the valve seats out and I discovered i could neither buy nor have a machine shop replace them, i simply JB Welded them back in and got three more years out of the engine before spending over $2000 for a new and identical Linamar. Regrettably, I did not know that Honda and others make much better OHV replacement drop-in engines for less money, or I would have absolutely bought one of them instead.

So just be honest and realistic with yourself what you will be doing with your "lawn mower" and buy accordingly. A small diesel "real" tractor is a far superior all-purpose choice. A good zero-turn is a far better specific purpose choice.
 
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I shouldn't have to worry about buying any more OPE for the rest of my life and then some. Several of these pieces are over 40 years old.
 
That snowblower is a beast!! :eek: Powered by a small block chevy or what?!! Look at that long hood! And the only green there is Lawn Boy green. What gives? You probably bought all of those for the price of one JD. ;) :D



That is some good equipment. Not the plastic junk built today. Those machines will last.
 
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The snowblower is a 1966 model. It uses Gravely's 7. 6 HP engine. No belts, chains, or shear bolts. It will blow snow 3/4 the height of a utility pole. That machine was $7K when last made in 2002. The blower fan is 1/4" steel and is 16" in diameter. It predates the CPSC and can be dangerous to a careless user.



The LB is rescued from a junk pile, it's a 1971, one of their first solid state machines. Runs great and is only 49#. It' great for trimming.



With the exception of the Kubota GR, they were all bought or found used.
 
X300

Picked up a year old JD X300 today, 42" deck with 32 hours on it and the mulch kitfor $1,850. It's like brand new and about the same price as what I would have paid for a JD D120 at Lowes. :)
 
Sweet! You got a nice deere with a kawasaki motor. Those are real comfortable and give a great cut. Get a set of gator blades if u have never tried them.
 
My last L&G tractor was a 1966 JD 112



I recently upgraded a bit to a larger cutting deck and larger snow blower in the 1981 JD 400 I currently have.



The lawn tractor will do much more than cut grass, so I have a tractor as opposed to the zero turn which only cuts grass.



Here at the school we use the Kubota zero turn to cut the grass and three L&G tractors to do what the zero turn won't.
 
The snowblower is a 1966 model. It uses Gravely's 7. 6 HP engine. No belts, chains, or shear bolts. It will blow snow 3/4 the height of a utility pole. That machine was $7K when last made in 2002. The blower fan is 1/4" steel and is 16" in diameter. It predates the CPSC and can be dangerous to a careless user.



The LB is rescued from a junk pile, it's a 1971, one of their first solid state machines. Runs great and is only 49#. It' great for trimming.



With the exception of the Kubota GR, they were all bought or found used.



Any one have any ideas where to get parts for an antique Lawn Boy? Have one from around the mid 60's near as I can guess. Been sitting the last 30 years since we moved here, like to get it running again someday !:D
 
The snowblower is a 1966 model. It uses Gravely's 7. 6 HP engine. No belts, chains, or shear bolts. It will blow snow 3/4 the height of a utility pole. That machine was $7K when last made in 2002. The blower fan is 1/4" steel and is 16" in diameter. It predates the CPSC and can be dangerous to a careless user.



The LB is rescued from a junk pile, it's a 1971, one of their first solid state machines. Runs great and is only 49#. It' great for trimming.



With the exception of the Kubota GR, they were all bought or found used.



I just can't get over the beautiful condition of that collection. I strip my JD 420 to the frame every couple of years and repaint and clean and it doesn't look that good. Of course, in between, it gets used very hard. The best feature is the locking differential followed by the 5 foot cutting width. I have some steep sidehills to mow.



Question for ya: How efficient is a large snowblower like that on small to moderate snowfalls? Over the course of a winter we might get 3 to 6 inches many, many times; often right on top of each other, but 12" to 24"+ snowfalls all at once are less common. Maybe two or three per winter.



I've always been a shovel guy, but I'm getting old enough now to appreciate a snowblower, especially since my brother gave me one that didn't run and I fixed it so my son could earn some money with it while I plowed with my dodge. Now I'm looking for a good older 2-stage machine.
 
Thanks. The 16G, which I didn't really need, I found last April. The original owner obviously took very good care of it. I always wanted one, that's why I went for it. It had a few mechanical issues that I didn't anticipate that were easily fixed, but the original powder coat is almost like new. The two walk behind Gravely's have been repainted during their lives, the snowblower (1966) I've had since the late '80's, and the mower (1969) I bought used in 2004. It was originally owned by some municipality and used only to push snow.



The snowblower is not that great for a light snowfall, as it leaves some behind. I have a single stage Snapper for that job. It is also heavy, probably near 500# and about 7' long, but for a serious snowfall, you can't beat it. A later version with a 12-16 HP engine works even better.
 
I dont think you can go wrong with Huspuavarna. I dont know if the Sears is the same but a friend lives in the mountains and bought one of their snow blowers had problems with some pin shear took it down the hill to the shop fixed the problem went home and same thing happen. The Husky dealer came to his house and fixed it again. Used it and same thing pin shear. The Husky district rep came out with a new machine gave it to him it has worked fine for a few winters now (dont know if you have seen but So Cal mountains have had record snows the last few years) I know you guys in MN. will be :-laf but its bad down here they have no snow removal equip. Any way the district rep took the machine and had the factory take a look. One of the bearing holders was welded on backwards? cause the pin to shear. Service to me is a big selling point and its hard to find service like that. I have one of their chain saws I use the Hell out of it and have had ABSOULTEY NO problems with it. same with the weed wacker, leaf blower that I use
 
X300

Got my first taste of John Deere customer Service when I got a service at home kit for $40 that included oil, oil filter, fuel filter, and air filters all in one box... and then they threw in a free ignition module (known issue with X300s) and made sure I had a copy of my warranty (4 year warranty is good until 2013). And they did this when I stopped by after work 1/2 after they closed and their gate was still opened. The owner unlocked the door, let me in, and didn't let me leave until I was taken care of. Wow!

Don't think I'd have gotten that at Lowes or Sears. Not bad for a 2 year old used tractor that I got for basically 1/2 of a new one that will last 25 years!

Goldman's John Deere in Bossier City, Lousiana--5 stars!!!

I think I'll stick with John Deere and maybe get one of those cute little mailboxes too!
 
Any one have any ideas where to get parts for an antique Lawn Boy? Have one from around the mid 60's near as I can guess. Been sitting the last 30 years since we moved here, like to get it running again someday !:D



+1 on ebay for Lawnboy parts. There's more Lawnboy parts on eBay than there are Cummins parts! That's where I get mine. Lawnboy.com has downloadable parts, repair and owners manuals; don't know if they go far enough back for you. Plenty of good advice here too: MyTractorForum.com





AHarris said:
Goldman's John Deere in Bossier City, Lousiana--5 stars!!!



Sounds like they deserve 10 stars! Maybe 11!



I mentioned earlier how my experience with Kohler plumbing customer service made me a fan of all their products, like the engine in my mower... I was visiting my elderly aunts in NYC over thanksgiving many years ago. They were having a problem with their Kohler toilet. I checked it out and called Kohler parts dept, describing the broken part thusly: "it looks just like a Holley fuel pressure regulator. " :D Turns out it's a water pressure regulator. :cool:



Since my visit was ending the next day, Kohler overnighted a regulator and a kit of miscellaneous parts. Now, this toilet wasn't under warranty or anything, but the parts AND the shipping were FREE!







I was at my local mower store the other day. They're good, but maybe not 11-stars good... Anyway, they had an Allis-Chalmers branded mower. I'll add that to the list of mowers that appear to be identical to the Craftsman/Husqvarna/Ariens.



Happy mowing!



kevin
 
I shouldn't have to worry about buying any more OPE for the rest of my life and then some. Several of these pieces are over 40 years old...



Ah, a Snapper Hi Vac!!! I probably walked 1,000 miles behind one of those beasties growing up. Other than the Tecumseh blowing up and being replaced by a Honda, the thing is still working, too.
 
AHarris, do you have an update on your X300? I'm going to look at/pick one up tomorrow. It's an 07' with the 42" mulching deck, 130 hours, and all service done at the dealer. I've read and read until i'm cross eyed but was wondering if there's anything that's developed that one should look at before buying? Thanks for any advice!
 
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