Need to figure this out now

[TCDiesel]

Yep... its time to worry.... You need the origin NOT numbers If their BMS thru one of the dealer Network its BMS.... Mark Just call me it much easier over the phone ..Now's good.

 

[MarkEkberg]

I sent you a video of what everything looked like under the valve cover with it running. Everything is looking great and sounding great? I don't get it. I made sure everything is clear with the CCV and the extension to the frame rail next to rear tire. I pulled the dip stick and with in 30 seconds it is spitting oil out the tube. If I wait till hissing sound out the extension dump and I pull the oil fill off it gives a quick puff and blows fill cap up, but then pressure is gone. No vapor out the fill hole.

Confusing, and worrisome at the same time.

Don't think this could have anything to do wth the install of injectors. Just too coincidental this has happened right after install?

 

[cerberusiam]

Pull that extension off the CCV and see if it is plugged. Sounds like there something plugging the hose or oil condensed in it allowing pressure to build.

 

[TCDiesel]

He checked that, he pulled the dip stick and its blowing oil. its making pressure, He sent me video the valve train all looks good.

 

[MarkEkberg]

The CCV is clear to the rear of the truck. There is a pill bottle at the end. If it is screwed on it hisses out of the bottle fairly quickly. If I remove the bottle it does not feel like there is much coming out, but if you plug it with a finger in about ten seconds there is significant pressure. If I open oil fill there is immediate pressure, but then no vapor or noticeable problem.

I have a hard time believing this is a issue with install? But it is too coincidental for me. Problem showed up right after install.

I wonder if it had blown off the CCV and when they put it all back together correctly the positive pressure has now shown itself..............

If this is a big issue any chance I can be rolling in 18 days?

 

[TCDiesel]

Not Unless you by complete.

Industrial Injection Does House Remans, Per your text I don't know if you have Bosch or house Remans But they do have latest Bosch Test equipment. The also have a distributors License with BOSCH, We Buy All our BOSCH Injectors form them.
To go form a poorly starting engine ( replaced Injectors) to excessive crank case pressure has Me at a loss.


https://youtu.be/YT9WtJKLMS0

 

[MarkEkberg]

My pressure is not that bad, but it does pop the top off like that video. It does not bounce the cap like the video after he puts it back on, but that is similar to what I have.

 

[cerberusiam]

The only thing I can think of is it broke a ring on one cylinder. I can think of nothing in an injector install that would cause crank case pressure to all of a sudden build like that, has to be a failure of something and the rings\pistons is the only way you are going to get pressure in the crank case like that.

 

[MarkEkberg]

Unfortunately that is what I am thinking too. Damn Damn Damn.

Trade truck off to a dealer or fix is now the question?

 

[TCDiesel]

The only thing I can think of is it broke a ring on one cylinder. I can think of nothing in an injector install that would cause crank case pressure to all of a sudden build like that, has to be a failure of something and the rings\pistons is the only way you are going to get pressure in the crank case like that.

What a coincidence... Thou...

 

[Tuesdak]

Unfortunately that is what I am thinking too. Damn Damn Damn.

Trade truck off to a dealer or fix is now the question?

EDIT: 1. When cold (started at 0, now it is up to 40 degrees) it will not fire without ether. No smoke at all comes out the tail pipe. Injectors are not firing. Batteries are new. A quick 2 second shot to the air filter and then crank for 5-7 seconds and it fires fine, and then will fire fine all day.

If you trade your evidence the shop or replacement injectors possibly caused this goes with it - Shady shops recommend this action. Not saying they caused it because bad luck. But why the bad luck needs to be found before another engine gets wrecked. A sticking open injector doesn't take long to melt a piston down. I wonder if there can be a fuel leak into the cylinder from the injector install and/or if there could be a compression leak around the injector into the valve cover area. Lots of possibilities including damage from the old set. Engines can be rebuilt for under $10,000. The bigger question is if the battle with the shop is worth it. The condition of the rest of the truck would be a big factor. Rolling in 18 days depends on the machine shop backlog and everything going right. Is the deadline flexible considering the costs of engine/new truck?

Edit: rereading the thread and coming across ether use the odds are no longer in your favor. Ether explodes on the diesel compression stroke and is hard on everything including breaking rings. Only use ether with the heaters/glow plugs disabled if it's a life and death situation and the engine, of course at this point, is expendable. This may help you decide your course of action as IMO now it's going to be out of your pocket to repair. Shop doesn't happen to have a ether can sitting in out the open by chance?

 

[MarkEkberg]

Shop is being decent thus far. Only weird thing that i have noticed is the MPG. On the lie o meter at the beginning of a tank it will be at 28-29 mpg. I filled up right after picking it up and now it is showing 11. So something drastic has changed there as well?

With a broken ring........... Think I can drive to FL empty and haul a 16K lb 5th wheel back to NH?

 

[MarkEkberg]

If you trade your evidence the shop or replacement injectors possibly caused this goes with it - Shady shops recommend this action. Not saying they caused it because bad luck. But why the bad luck needs to be found before another engine gets wrecked. A sticking open injector doesn't take long to melt a piston down. I wonder if there can be a fuel leak into the cylinder from the injector install and/or if there could be a compression leak around the injector into the valve cover area. Lots of possibilities including damage from the old set. Engines can be rebuilt for under $10,000. The bigger question is if the battle with the shop is worth it. The condition of the rest of the truck would be a big factor. Rolling in 18 days depends on the machine shop backlog and everything going right. Is the deadline flexible considering the costs of engine/new truck?

I paid 6K for the truck with 190K on it. It is a zero rust truck with great paint and interior. If I traded it to a dealer and spent 10K I would be back into a 190K truck again. That being said this is a 305hp, crew, 6 speed 3.73 gear which is very difficult to find...........................

 

[MarkEkberg]

My ether use is minimal. With grid heater disabled a 1 second shot into the air cleaner would give it the boost in rpm needed for it to fire. Once it had to pull it through the inter-cooler it was so mixed with air there is no way this was a issue. I never used too much and it never bogged or rattled.

I explained this to shop if it didn't want to fire, and showed him exactly what I did.

This is going to be expensive no matter what I do........................ Very sad at the moment.

 

[Tuesdak]

Consider other options for "shipping" the RV including asking around on the TDR. Your fuel both ways should come close to the cost of or more than the cost of shipping. What is plan "b" to get the truck and RV home if the engine that's already warning you it has major problems gives up?

See what broke on your engine and then what upgrades mild or wild you want: steel pistons, camshaft, etc. I have used rebuilds to improve things. After the rebuild this would be a great trip to break in a fresh engine.

 

[DavidC]

So, time to do a compression and or leak down test after pulling injectors to narrow down the maybe offending cylinder (s) ?.

Dave

 

[MarkEkberg]

So, time to do a compression and or leak down test after pulling injectors to narrow down the maybe offending cylinder (s) ?.

Dave

That's on the conversation agenda in an hour.

 

[TCDiesel]

Mark, There's a Member His name is Sam S , I no longer have the video ,he attempted to Make it to MN form CO, He blew oil all over his trailer and engine on that 1100 trip. IMO its to risky.

 

[MarkEkberg]

Just stopped by shop. Apparently this is what has happened.

1. CCV was not connected when it went into the shop. I had noticed it undone right after I bought it. Reconnected and threw a hose clamp on it. I guess it pushed off again.
2. The extension hose was plugged. I put my air hose to it Saturday and thought for sure it was unplugged. Guess I was wrong.
3. A whole bunch of crud came out of the tube which was preventing the pressure from venting.
4. All back together and everything is fine.......

I didn't believe him and so he offered up his truck. He started it and I crawled under (in my good work clothes no less) and stuck my finger in the CCV hose. In about 10 seconds it had built the same pressure mine does.

So now I feel dumb but relieved. Only thing that would make me feel better is if one of you with a higher millage gen three stuck your finger over the CCV, counted to ten and see if there is some pressure built up there.

All day Sunday and this morning I was freaking out, looking for used engines and or new/used truck. I think I lost a few hours off my life on this one...........

TC Diesel I owe you a rack of your favorite beer/bottle. If you say no, the next time I head to MT I am buying you dinner.

 

[TCDiesel]

When Do You Plan on going to MT? I have a cabin in West Yellow..MT