OEM Fuel Filter Minder

[mwilson]

So what if something could be rigged up to accept the male o-ring boss thread of the sender and attach it to the stub of the 6.7 banjo fitting and not use the manifold...like a female o-ring boss to female pipe thread that could be welded or brazed to the tail???

 

[Jim W]

I wonder if this kit can be used with the Glacier Diesel Big Line Fuel Filter Kit for the 6.7L Cummins. I have installed the Big Line Kit on my truck and this required a new 3/8" ID fuel hose with fittings into the pump. It does not look like it will work to me but I could be wrong.

 

[Mikey-KE7LBB]

I wonder if this kit can be used with the Glacier Diesel Big Line Fuel Filter Kit for the 6.7L Cummins. I have installed the Big Line Kit on my truck and this required a new 3/8" ID fuel hose with fittings into the pump. It does not look like it will work to me but I could be wrong.

It will kinda undo what you did with the kit, but you can slip the hose over the fitting and use a regular hose clamp to secure it.

 

[Mschuman88]

Thanks for all the information. Is there anything in the documentation for what the pressure thresholds are?

 

[Ozymandias]

If the "64" can still be purchased somewhere that's the way to go for a 5.9.

Also for my fellow Jake Equipped truck owners I don't see why the sender could not be placed under the fuel filter canister on that end of the line....if there is room. The fittings and washers are identical on either end of the line..

My truck is in storage so I can't look at it until this weekend...


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At the lower banjo bolt at the filter i installed my BD filter LED sender. There is plenty of room for it.

It's great how that thread turns out.

 

[MGreer]

Alright guys,
I received my kit today, and as suspected it doesn't fit the 5.9. The 65 kit is for the 6.7 engine. I've done a lot of searching over the last few days for a fitting that will work with the supplied sensor that will work on the 5.9 engine with little success.
So I've decided to become the crash test dummy and find a way this can work on the 5.9 and work for the 5.9s with an eb. I believe I stumbled onto a solution without going into great detail. Started with some comments made by mwilson. The double banjo bolt will be here tomorrow and I will work on it Monday. Will have results and pcs.

 

[Ozymandias]

Alright guys,
I received my kit today, and as suspected it doesn't fit the 5.9. The 65 kit is for the 6.7 engine. I've done a lot of searching over the last few days for a fitting that will work with the supplied sensor that will work on the 5.9 engine with little success.
So I've decided to become the crash test dummy and find a way this can work on the 5.9 and work for the 5.9s with an eb. I believe I stumbled onto a solution without going into great detail. Started with some comments made by mwilson. The double banjo bolt will be here tomorrow and I will work on it Monday. Will have results and pcs.

If that turns out working I'll order a set asap.

 

[MGreer]

I have all the parts for the install and took some measurements:
Sensor
Number-68156499aa
Length-2.7 inches (69 mm) with plug installed 81 mm, doesn't include threads
Thread length-11 mm
Thickest part of sensor-38 mm
Distance to thickest part of sensor from manifold-33 mm
Weight-1 and 7/8 ounces (55 grams)
In the horizontal position the highest part of the sensor will be 1.125 inches (28.6 mm) above the banjo fitting
The threads on the sensor are the same as the banjo bolt

Manifold
Thickness-20 mm
Length-44 mm
Width- 47 mm, can be modified if needed
Weight-1 and 3/8 ounces (41 grams)
The manifold will be 20 mm higher than the banjo fitting

Banjo bolt
Length-38 mm measured from the crush washer
Threads-m12 1.50

Will install on truck soon

 

[MGreer]

Banjo bolt I'm using

 

[MGreer]

Installed the manifold and sensor and it went good. When I went to hookup the wiring the supplied connectors were to big to fit the wif connectors.

 

[Ozymandias]

You can just solder it onto the harness of the WIF.

Any pics of the install????

 

[AH64ID]

You can just solder it onto the harness of the WIF.

Any pics of the install????

I would be careful doing that. What if the resistance is different and that's why the plugs are different. The WIF light might stay on all the time, similar to when the SDFK is hooked up without turning it on in the ECM.

 

[MGreer]

I looked at pictures of the sensors from both kits and they appear to be the same sensor just with different therads. The wif connectors are different sizes in each kit. The connector in the kit for the 6.7 are bigger than the connectors in the 5.9 kit.

 

[MGreer]

Two of the pictures show how much the sensor can be positioned, you can turn it almost 180 degrees. I tried to get a picture showing the height of the sensor. The sensor is actually lower than the highest point of the supply line.

 

[MGreer]

 

[Ozymandias]

I would be careful doing that. What if the resistance is different and that's why the plugs are different. The WIF light might stay on all the time, similar to when the SDFK is hooked up without turning it on in the ECM.

I think the result should be the same if i solder or just plug a connector?
WIFs are resistance, this one is a switch I'd say.

 

[AH64ID]

I think the result should be the same if i solder or just plug a connector?
WIFs are resistance, this one is a switch I'd say.

Yes, but different connector means different sensor and the entire system might run on different resistance.

A switch shouldn't effect that, but I would verify that before cutting and soldering .

 

[EDankievitch]

Installed my kit yesterday. Only thing that I did run across was the fuel line connector on my2013 truck used an “O” ring not a sealing washer to the CP3 pump. I shape the O ring over to the new fitting while fitting does not have a grove for it it did seat. I also used the copper sealing washer that came with the kit. Banjo bolt copier washer pressure switch manifold copper washer then O ring. No leaks. o ring seated into the bore machined for it on the Fuel pump. Copper washer flush to the pump housing. N leaks. Wiring was simple plug an play. I tested the sensor an see enough it lights up the WIF lamp when you remove the fuel pump fuse while the engine is running. Life is good so far.

 

[Ozymandias]

That's so cool, it works!!

Only downfall seems so far that the #...64 for our Gen3 Trucks isn't available anymore.

 

[MGreer]

I have a 64 kit on order, it hasn't shipped yet.