What is the best setup for hauling 5th wheel campers ?

[SnoKing]

Yep, now imagine how stupid it is to cause such a thing when you are not legally required to.

What does your trailer weigh and how tail is it.

 

[SnoKing]

Ok here is a big problem as I see it in CA the "towing" speed limit is 55 no matter what you are towing. So there are many 65mph two lane roads with trucks towing 55-60 and people getting aggravated and trying to pass when they should not.

That and highly unstable small cabover box trucks dart in and out of lanes going 70 or 75 miles per hour. That really scares me. SnoKing

 

[kthaxton]

What does your trailer weigh and how tail is it.

Only about 10k loaded.....and I'm forgetting the height.

 

[Cummins12V98]

Only about 10k loaded.....and I'm forgetting the height.

BIG difference compared my RV and SNOKING's RV.

 

[GAmes]

I see it every time I head to Moab on Highway 6, someone goes below the speed limit, traffic bunches up, then other drivers start attempting their passes.....and not always safely.

I'm not so selfish that I will block traffic for no other reason than to save a couple of bucks (if that) of fuel.

I've driven the two lane route from Ship Rock, NM to Spanish Fork, UT, which goes through Moab more times than I can count, possibly more times than you have driven Hwy 6. I was traveling it long before the current passing lanes were built. Not that there has ever been a lot of traffic on that road, except for some weekends, the slow downs aren't a few RVs. If there is someone going slower than the Mario Andretti's with their toyhaulers and flatbeds full of dirt bikes and wheelers it would be trucks. The morons passing them unsafely do it even when the trucks are doing the speed limit. I see them on I8 and I10 in CA & AZ too. If you are driving the speed limit they are passing you too. Bottom line is no matter what speed you drive there is always someone going faster, usually unsafely. Driving at 60 not only saves me money, it gives me a lot more reaction time to keep away from their idiocy.

 

[kthaxton]

BIG difference compared my RV and SNOKING's RV.

Congratulations, but
maybe that's why your self imposed rules don't apply to everyone?

 

[kthaxton]

I've driven the two lane route from Ship Rock, NM to Spanish Fork, UT, which goes through Moab more times than I can count, possibly more times than you have driven Hwy 6. I was traveling it long before the current passing lanes were built. Not that there has ever been a lot of traffic on that road, except for some weekends, the slow downs aren't a few RVs. If there is someone going slower than the Mario Andretti's with their toyhaulers and flatbeds full of dirt bikes and wheelers it would be trucks. The morons passing them unsafely do it even when the trucks are doing the speed limit. I see them on I8 and I10 in CA & AZ too. If you are driving the speed limit they are passing you too. Bottom line is no matter what speed you drive there is always someone going faster, usually unsafely. Driving at 60 not only saves me money, it gives me a lot more reaction time to keep away from their idiocy.

I've driven that stretch 2-5 times a year for the last 25 years or so and the times I am there are almost always the times others are going to and from Moab/Lake Powell/San Rafael etc and it is usually busy.

I am not referring to ONLY RV's slowing traffic down, I gave the example of the problems that ANY vehicle going slow can cause on that stretch (because Snoking listed two specific highways, as if they were representative of every road).

My point is that I will NOT be the cause of a mess and potential hazard like that only so I can save a few bucks in fuel, if I feel I can safely go the speed limit, then I will.

Like I said, I know there will always be idiots driving like idiots, if they want to go faster than the speed limit, then they are the problem, not me.

 

[SnoKing]

Congratulations, but
maybe that's why your self imposed rules don't apply to everyone?

They are not self imposed rules, they are common sense from people that have been around the block more that once.

 

[NIsaacs]

I traveled both directions through Nevada of 93 in the last couple years. No other RV's caught up with me and wanted to pass.

That's because there is no other traffic on 93 or 95 in Nevada.

 

[GAmes]

If I'm going the speed limit and others want to pass me, then it is their problem, and I am not the cause of the problem. I prefer not to be the cause.

So the slower traffic is the cause? Typical backward thinking of today. It is snow and ice that cause big highway wrecks, not morons driving too fast for conditions. It's the camera's fault that my DIL got a speeding ticket. The list is endless. Truth is, there has never been a link between split speed limits, or in this case slower traffic, to a higher incidence of traffic accidents.

 

[kthaxton]

So the slower traffic is the cause? Typical backward thinking of today. It is snow and ice that cause big highway wrecks, not morons driving too fast for conditions. It's the camera's fault that my DIL got a speeding ticket. The list is endless. Truth is, there has never been a link between split speed limits, or in this case slower traffic, to a higher incidence of traffic accidents.

Traffic getting bunched up is inherently more dangerous. It's just the way it is. Yes, of course the hazards are usually based on poor decisions, but if traffic is not put in that situation, you don't put people in a position to make a poor choice.

 

[kthaxton]

They are not self imposed rules, they are common sense from people that have been around the block more that once.

Do you really think that max speed of 60 mph is the only smart thing to do for every road, ever load, every person, every scenario?

 

[GAmes]

Yes, of course the hazards are usually based on poor decisions, but if traffic is not put in that situation, you don't put people in a position to make a poor choice.

We are surrounded by poor choices, some worse than others, some more fatal than others. Were you driving when the national speed limit was 55 mph? Were there fewer wrecks? No. Did everyone refrain from speeding? Double no. Have you driven in TX where some roadways have a speed limit of 85 mph? Will you drive 85 when you come here? Why not? According to you that would be the cause of problems. There are two lane roads here where the speed limit is 70 mph. Imagine doing 70 with your RV behind you and cresting a hill to see a tractor with a disk behind it going from the barn to a field in the right lane and an 18 wheeler coming in the other lane. Now, who is the cause of the problem in this case? The tractor?

 

[GAmes]

Traffic getting bunched up is inherently more dangerous.

Only in your mind.

 

[kthaxton]

Were you driving when the national speed limit was 55 mph? Were there fewer wrecks? No. Did everyone refrain from speeding? Double no.

Yes I was driving then, but you are missing the point. The hazard I am speaking of is when there is a notable difference in traffic speed relative to each other.

Will you drive 85 when you come here? Why not? According to you that would be the cause of problems.

Do they have those speeds on 2 lane highways? Here in Utah, we have 80 mph limit on I-15. I do not tow that fast, but......at least here, the only place you will see a speed limit over 65 is on a 4+ land highway, where others can pass in other lanes.

There are two lane roads here where the speed limit is 70 mph. Imagine doing 70 with your RV behind you and cresting a hill to see a tractor with a disk behind it going from the barn to a field in the right lane and an 18 wheeler coming in the other lane. Now, who is the cause of the problem in this case? The tractor?

Note where I said earlier, many times "where it is safe to do so". Roads where the hill, or anything else, blocks the view of the roadway ahead, I would not deem "safe to do so". As I said, going slow for no other reason but to save gas...".

 

[kthaxton]

Only in your mind.

So you honestly, do not think that when cars are bunched up together, it is any more dangerous than when they are all spread out with plenty of room? It's as if you don't see that one person's poor decision (i.e. the tailgaters, the darty passers), can impact the safety of many others on the road.

I will not unnecessarily put the idiots in that position.

 

[Cummins12V98]

"I" have a self imposed 70mph MAX at night and a 75mph MAX in day time "IF" the law allows. My tires are rated for that and my truck HANDLES the RV WELL in all weather conditions at those speeds.

If SNOKING for example feels 60 is the right choice for him and he does NOT hang in the left lane and allows for people to pass when it's safe I have ZERO issue with it.

OH hey I think GS would make more $$$ if he had 3.42's.

 

[GAmes]

As I said, going slow for no other reason but to save gas...".

I gave you a list of reasons to drive a little slower than the multitudes of 4 wheelers on the road. Safety is paramount, it isn't just "to save gas". You just don't get it do you? If cars stack up behind you while you are doing the speed limit then the hazards of them passing is greater than the same cars passing me if I am 5 or 10 mph below the limit.

 

[Cummins12V98]

The next gen 6.7 engines will be 100% emissions free with reported 10% increase in HP and 20% increase in TQ.

Any wild guess what the Dually, AISIN, 4.10, 3.73 and 3.42 combo's GCVWR will be?

 

[kthaxton]

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