What should I buy, Toyota or CTD

[tim0]

I own a 03 HO and my work truck is a 10 Tacoma v6. HO gives 23mpg with no problem. The best for the Tacoma is 19mpg. The Tacoma is cramped , can carry very little weight. Both have had almost no problems. I don't care for the plastic bed of the Tacoma . My previous work truck was a 07 f150 4. 6L. Much more of a truck than the Toyota. We have several with near 200,000 miles and still running strong. The company is switching back to F150 because no real savings with the Toyota.

 

[BIGNASTY]

Upon Moving to MT my son found himself in need of a 4x4 for the wife and new baby to drive when he has his Dodge at work. The problems with the Dodge 4x4 are just to much for him and as posted above gas is cheaper than diesel. They went with a half ton Chevy 4x4 crew cab im not sure of the mileage it gets but the truck is REALLY NICE. The Truck its self is built WAY BETTER than our Dodges. The interior is really nice he didnt buy the cheap model. I have said before that the only reason I bought the Dodge was because of the Cummins. I think even back in 04 when I bought my Dodge Ford/Chevy trucks were better built but didnt have the motor. JMO

BIG

 

[Deleted member 995608]

I thought I heard Toyota is coming out w/ a diesel truck?

Toyota has already produced diesel's that we have never been able to purchase in the USA. Unless the EPA is overthrown, doubt we'll ever see one.

 

[Deleted member 995608]

I have to admit that I've been shopping for a used Tacoma 4x4. I wanna flatbed one so that I can still have room for at least four bales of hay and what not. Another ranch I help with up north uses Toyota 4x's exclusively as their field trucks and only use the heavy trucks when necessary. I really only need my 2500 dually every now and then.

 

[RVTRKN]

The last time I checked on the Tundra prices, they were almost as much as a CTD, I wonder which one will be worth more in 5 years and 100K later.

 

[Wayne M.]

I'm off today- had to run errands and had to deal with rush hour traffic for part of the trip, and a tight parking situation. About 4 stops in all, including hitting the supermarket for what to cook tonight. I thought about this thread and the thought about doing this in any other truck- or other type of vehicle..... NOPE. After 8 years and 96000 city miles I still have fun driving this truck.

 

[Wayne M.]

Toyota has already produced diesel's that we have never been able to purchase in the USA. Unless the EPA is overthrown, doubt we'll ever see one.

Yes, go back to the second youtube with Top Gear. Thats an awesome little truck he stupidly destroyed... Reminds me of a time way back when I was starting in the trade and turning wrenches in a Sunoco gas station that sold diesel. A NUN (yes!) pulls in with a Toyota Camry (very early model) and asks for fuel (I was not dispensing) and didn't see that nozzle went into her neck until a few gallons later. Well she starts jumping and yelling at the attendant. He put gasoline. This Camry was a DIESEL! This is when I learned of the situation. We pushed the car onto my lift, and lo and behold it had a sump with a drain. We rectified the situation and the Nun was happy again. I'll never forget that Camry Diesel.

 

[AH64ID]

For about 9 months and 13K miles I owned a 2007 Tacoma that I bought new. In 60-70% of the driving it got lower mileage than my dad's 06 QC LB 2500 CTD, the rest was about the same and rarely more than 10% better.

I don't have my log with me, on the home computer, but I recall averaging about 16-17 mpg, but it would dip fast with even a small 900lb pop up camper (and I mean SMALL), or headwind, etc. I did get 1 tank at 22, but that wasn't common.

I sold the truck to my dad when I bought my 05 Cummins. He still drives it for work and gets 14-15 driving around Seattle. His diesel get's better economy but the size is harder to deal with in Seattle traffic and parking.

If I remember I'll take a peek at the fuel log tonight.

Bottom line is that for what I do the Dodge is better and can easily get better economy, with more power and room. It is bigger, and does limit some back road travel in the mountains and inner city driving, but that's not an issue for me.

 

[Deleted member 995608]

For about 9 months and 13K miles I owned a 2007 Tacoma that I bought new. In 60-70% of the driving it got lower mileage than my dad's 06 QC LB 2500 CTD, the rest was about the same and rarely more than 10% better.

I don't have my log with me, on the home computer, but I recall averaging about 16-17 mpg, but it would dip fast with even a small 900lb pop up camper (and I mean SMALL), or headwind, etc. I did get 1 tank at 22, but that wasn't common.

I sold the truck to my dad when I bought my 05 Cummins. He still drives it for work and gets 14-15 driving around Seattle. His diesel get's better economy but the size is harder to deal with in Seattle traffic and parking.

If I remember I'll take a peek at the fuel log tonight.

Bottom line is that for what I do the Dodge is better and can easily get better economy, with more power and room. It is bigger, and does limit some back road travel in the mountains and inner city driving, but that's not an issue for me.

Fuel economy is only one part of the equation. Longevity, mtce costs, etc also have to be figured in.

I never bought a diesel because of economics. Hands down, diesel pickups cost more to buy and to maintain. Between the aftermarket mumbo jumbo stuff we buy to make our diesel trucks last longer, 10 py tires and $100 dollar Amsoil changes, our trucks cost more out of pocket to operate than a small sized pickup.

Longevity? There are hundreds of lil cute Tacoma's on the road with 200K + miles right now. And i'd rather pay $1500 for a used Tacoma 4 or 6 cyl engine with 75K miles than fork over the $10K for a Cummins.

I'm on my third Dodge diesel. Am I getting rid of my current Dodge? NOPE. Will I buy a used Tacoma to replace my Dodge daily driver? YUP. Am I planning to buy a 2013 Dodge 3500 DRW even though a DD a Tacoma? YUP.

I drive Dodge diesel because I like em. That is all.

 

[Wayne M.]

And i'd rather pay $1500 for a used Tacoma 4 or 6 cyl engine with 75K miles than fork over the $10K for a Cummins.

When I was searching for my truck, I looked a good 3-4 years at 2nd Gen trucks and wound up with what I have now. The "problem" is (depending on what side of the table you're on) that these trucks are unbelievably expensive in the used market. Trying to find a real good one was impossible back when I was looking. 10 or more years ago, the market wasn't as plentiful as it is today- and it's still tough from what I see. I remember the last used truck I looked at. It was a 2001 Quad short bed sport 5 speed. I caught the salesman lying cause he said it wasnt modded, but I found the engine harness all chopped up . The price was $25500 and wouldnt budge a penny. After doing some math and figuring, and finding this truck- and with the deal I got, it just didn't make sense to buy anything else.

I look at it like buying cold-cuts at the deli counter. $34000 for 6500 lbs of iron is a better deal than the same money for something else weighing a ton less. Gotta look at what you're getting for your bucks.

 

[EGroeneveld]

If you like and want a diesel truck get the Cummins. More so if you like working on vehicles yourself.



Toyota Tundras are great trucks but are NOT what I'd call a real truck for heavy hauling or towing. But its sounds like you don't really need to haul or tow much. My neighbor loves his Toyota Tundra, but only tows a little trailer with a golf cart on it. My wife has a 2007 Toyota Camry Hybrid with 100k miles that has been basically flawless.



I personally would not get a 2 wheel drive truck, EVER!