RAM options for towing 5th wheel - advice requested

[SnoKing]

And this one is SRW with payload of 4,150 lbs.

https://www.earnhardtcjd.com/vehicl...ie-crew-cab-4x4-64-box-gilbert-az-id-31728452

No rear air
No Aisin

 

[SnoKing]

And this one, 4,010 payload

https://www.avondaledodge.com/whole...ndale+az-9bf662310a0e0a1776d4d62660fa0bed.htm

I think you linked the wrong one!

 

[Cummins2014]

I think you linked the wrong one!

Why the wrong one, isn't the 1000 ft lb. the Aisin ??

 

[SnoKing]

Why the wrong one, isn't the 1000 ft lb. the Aisin ??

He not does want a dually and stated a 4xxx payload AKA SRW

 

[JR]

No rear air
No Aisin

Aaanndd no deal breaker for the average buyer.

Last I saw the Aisin commands a $2500 premium. Service intervals half of the 68 and with a more expensive fluid to boot. That's a lot of jack over the life of a truck.
When's the last time there was a thread on here regarding a failed 68? I'm on here almost daily and can't remember when but they are VERY few and far between. And despite what people tell you on this forum, the 68 outsells the Aisin by at least 3 or 4 to 1.

I've never understood the hype.

 

[Cummins2014]

He does want a dually and stated a 4xxx payload AKA SRW

He wants a dually with

Aaanndd no deal breaker for the average buyer.

Last I saw the Aisin commands a $2500 premium. Service intervals half of the 68 and with a more expensive fluid to boot. That's a lot of jack over the life of a truck.
When's the last time there was a thread on here regarding a failed 68? I'm on here almost daily and can't remember when but they are VERY few and far between. And despite what people tell you on this forum, the 68 outsells the Aisin by at least 3 or 4 to 1.

I've never understood the hype.

Don't start that ,SnoKing accused me of Aisin envy. I pretty much said the same , but had no idea the 68 out sold the Aisin. They got so hung up on those two lower gears, they couldn't hear anything else .

After towing with the 68 for nearly six years, no I don't get the hype either.

 

[Cummins2014]

As far as the Air ride, I am sure its great, but certainly not a deal breaker. Do the other two, Ford or GM offer air ride ? What I do know is my sons 2016 3500 has it, and he could care less about it.

 

[JR]

had no idea the 68 out sold the Aisin.

By fault it has to. Every single 2500 is sold with the 68.
Even if 3500 was a 50/50 split, it would still put the 68 ahead by alot. But this is not the case. Simply do a used truck search or go to your local dealer and do a count on how many 3500 have a 68 and how many have an Aisin.

 

[Cummins2014]

By fault it has to. Every single 2500 is sold with the 68.
Even if 3500 was a 50/50 split, it would still put the 68 ahead by alot. But this is not the case. Simply do a used truck search or go to your local dealer and do a count on how many 3500 have a 68 and how many have an Aisin.

I just assumed with all the hype here with the Aisin being earth ending if you didn't have it ,there were more sold . The 68 has done well for me, but as I have admitted I don't know the difference . My sons 2016 is also the 68, and he tows pretty heavy every day, and not an issue.

 

[SnoKing]

Aaanndd no deal breaker for the average buyer.

Last I saw the Aisin commands a $2500 premium. Service intervals half of the 68 and with a more expensive fluid to boot. That's a lot of jack over the life of a truck.
When's the last time there was a thread on here regarding a failed 68? I'm on here almost daily and can't remember when but they are VERY few and far between. And despite what people tell you on this forum, the 68 outsells the Aisin by at least 3 or 4 to 1.

I've never understood the hype.

The Aisin is rolled into a single item with the HO engine. Order a HO engine for $2695 more and you get the Aisin with it.

 

[TCDiesel]

JR, Trans #s don't make it better. The 69 is far superior to the 68, the 69 is the 1st OEM trans I have never modified in any Personal Truck I've owned. My 2007.5 68 was a bang clunk WTH and was returned to Ram on a clause in the lease after 11 months of ownership.

 

[Cummins12V98]

Is this meant for me? I don’t understand, if I’m in the numbers it’s good for me. My Class A lic. tells me I’m qualified. My 3500 C&C was way more than enough truck, and I wouldn’t have bought a SRW 3500 if it couldn’t handle my 5ver.

it was a general statement. My point is some think they can tow let’s say a 17k 5er with a 3500 SRW because the truck is rated to tow that much. Fact is the truck may tow a regular trailer but not able to handle the pin weight of a 5er weighing that much.

 

[JR]

Far superior at what cost. When you have a component that is designed from the ground up for a specific drive train what is the point of going bigger?

I've put my 68 through more than most on here have put their Aisin through. Not bragging just saying. When you drag heavy wagons through soft fields you get an idea of what a transmission is made of.

The Aisin service intervals are embarrassing at best. Look at most any other MD transmission interval on the market. Aisin went back to the 90's when writing their service manuals.

And Todd really? Comparing a trans from 12 years ago to current? Come on now

 

[Cummins2014]

JR, Trans #s don't make it better. The 69 is far superior to the 68, the 69 is the 1st OEM trans I have never modified in any Personal Truck I've owned. My 2007.5 68 was a bang clunk WTH and was returned to Ram on a clause in the lease after 11 months of ownership.

Bang clunk in 2007.5 , This is 2019, towed with a 68 lately.

 

[Cummins12V98]

Aaanndd no deal breaker for the average buyer.

Last I saw the Aisin commands a $2500 premium. Service intervals half of the 68 and with a more expensive fluid to boot. That's a lot of jack over the life of a truck.
When's the last time there was a thread on here regarding a failed 68? I'm on here almost daily and can't remember when but they are VERY few and far between. And despite what people tell you on this forum, the 68 outsells the Aisin by at least 3 or 4 to 1.

I've never understood the hype.

Have you owned an AISIN?

I have owned both, nothing wrong with the 68 but I will take the AISIN any day.

I use the same fluid in both. More frequent fluid change is no biggie IMHO.

Lower starting gears plus more power and higher tow ratings.

As Stan Gozzi stated at MayMadness regarding the AISIN “they don’t break”.

 

[Cummins2014]

Far superior at what cost. When you have a component that is designed from the ground up for a specific drive train what is the point of going bigger?

I've put my 68 through more than most on here have put their Aisin through. Not bragging just saying. When you drag heavy wagons through soft fields you get an idea of what a transmission is made of.

The Aisin service intervals are embarrassing at best. Look at most any other MD transmission interval on the market. Aisin went back to the 90's when writing their service manuals.

And Todd really? Comparing a trans from 12 years ago to current? Come on now

You won't win this one ,the gang is all here

 

[Cummins2014]

They do need to justify that 3K

 

[Cummins2014]

Have you owned an AISIN?

I have owned both, nothing wrong with the 68 but I will take the AISIN any day.

I use the same fluid in both. More frequent fluid change is no biggie IMHO.

Lower starting gears plus more power and higher tow ratings.

As Stan Gozzi stated at MayMadness regarding the AISIN “they don’t break”.

They all break, who is fooling who here !!!

 

[SnoKing]

NOT AGAIN! PLEASE!

 

[Cummins2014]

NOT AGAIN! PLEASE!View attachment 117197

Come on now, didn't you see the smiley faces, just some friendly banter here. Its okay to go back, and forth here.