Engine/Transmission (1994 - 1998) P-Timing after cam removal

[MRose]

I have almost finished a KDP tab and oil leak fix on a friends 98' 215 which included cam and timing case removal. I'm about 200mi from all my shop manuals so I did everything off the interweb. The cumminsdatabase page was the most complete instructions I found but they had a few major short comings. 1, they said to make the wood dowels to a sharp point, they just break up when you hammer them in, got some wood in there now. Found a video on Utube that shows the dowels with just a slightly rounded edge, problem solved. 2, Having only done VP R&R before I was expecting a key on the Inj pump shaft, so the gear came off unmarked with the pump unlocked and the cam gear unpinned, learned about those tonight. The gear marks are all at TDC but after reinstalling the inj pump gear nut I know that I'm alittle advanced, tried to get as close as I could. So on this motor, stock w/afc housing forward what do you think? She tows 20k regularly. No comments about this being a issue on the instuctional page, sure other have done it. Here's the link to the instructions,

 

[JGK]

Find someone with a timing kit that can time it properly, otherwise you're just guessing at it. Assuming you're doing this in the Salem area you're close to Rip at Source Automotive. Call him. He probably knows someone who can help.



That link is a consolidation of one or more threads here on the TDR several years ago. I remember reading it carefully when I repaired the leak on the back side of my timing case (and put in a PDR cam) long ago.



-Jay

 

[Joseph Donnelly]

Turn the engine to be at #1 firing TDC, where the gear case/engine black plastic timing pin goes into the cam gear. Then you can remove the P7100 shaft nut and pop the gear off again, and turn the injection pump shaft until the nylon timing fork (under the big hex nut on the driver's side of the P pump) fits smoothly over the blade inside the pump hole. This will get you within ½ degree of stock timing. Be sure to turn that timing fork so the steel pin end points inward so the pump will turn, after you check the pump timing. Clean the taper fit for the gear with Mopar non-chlorinated brake cleaner. That is good enough until you can get it timed with the proper tools. See TDR #61, p. 102.

 

[MRose]

Thanks Guys

I actually drove it around a few miles to get it warmed up today and it sounded good, got on it alittle and slipped the shaft. Idled back home and will be setting the timing using the above in the morning. I called every local diesel shop( in Grants Pass) today and no one has a dial timing kit. They all use the tab, gonna have to wait a few weeks to get my buddies kit in salem. This time gonna get it extra tight!